: plat jg lf clash team
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Mindstar (OCE)
: [COMPLETE] OCE Platform Maintenance - 2016-10-26 @ 0600 AEDT
did this create an issue with spectating at all? i havent been able to spec any matches since i logged on today, wont let me connect.
: Ranked updates now live
hmm, highly prefer everyone to have the same rules for even competition. personally im not a fan of dynamic que and barely play now because of it. too many got carried into higher elos that they are not good enough to play at which makes the game un-enjoyable for below diamond elo players
: firstly for a tank battle in extended lanes, fight will go for around 20 secs or more, 1 rotation of abilities and autos will give you full stacks and take roughly 2 secs with both champs leaving the remaining 18 secs full damage from fevor, so lets go with in that time frame 14 autos to be cautious cause we arent all pros :) 12 x 253.93 = 3047.16 bonus damage compared to a 21 sec fight for grasp @2000hp 2.5% is 50hp, can get a max of 5 times, thats only 250hp. would you prefer 250hp for that fight or 3k of extra damage? with fevor, you either kill, force from lane and burn pots /summoners allowing for team plays around map secondly, a team fight at same level these wont go for as long as your target should be dead. lets go with 10 secs to kill the carry, 4 sec to get full stack as you need to get to backline and an auto or 2, leaving 6 seconds on target get 4 autos. 4 x 253.93 = 1015.72 adc or mid out of fight then you turn onto other of the 2 carries, didnt really get efficient stacks cause was low hp, but consumed 4 more secs. time to kill support and top tanks 3 more secs to get fevor stacks since your in the fight, 5 autos and tank is dead fight over. that is roughly going to be how the team fight goes, give or take a lil. analysis for that is total fight went for 22 second, only able to get 9 autos at full stacks during this fight 9 x 253.93 = 2285.37 bonus damage for the fight also allowing you to push the carries out of fight efficiently or kill. keeping your team protected from wipe, also extends fight to get team set up defensively with re spawns same fight 22 secs 6 x 2.5% = 300hp regen. my point of view here is that 300 hp in a team fight might keep you alive for 2 more seconds, but the damage that you deal far outweighs the damage you can absorb. Now that the numbers are out, tactics come into play as well. lets say because of that extra damage you do to kills adc but you die, your team now has 2 carries a jg and support, enemy team has 1 carry, 1 support, 1 tank top and jg, who is more likely to win this fight given your team now should do more damage?turns out enemy doesnt want to fight because its uneven fight, you can now pressure baron/dragon and force a fight, or push a tower freely because they cant defend it. So tactically there is alot more objectives you can control by trading your top for their carry
oh ill add, both these champs can get in and out of fights aswell, so going deep doesnt always mean death
: Ah the numbers. Now we're analysing! At 8 stacks it does do a lot of damage yes, I can 100% agree with that, but firstly we have to get to 8 stacks right? 3 auto's to get 253.92 is after you've found a way to stack it in the first place, Grasp does become slightly more efficient by this stage with numbers also assuredly. Remembering that Grasp of the Undying, whilst it's handy at dealing a bit of % damage, it also heals you to keep you alive, which would you value more on these champions? Damage or Sustain for the tanks?
firstly for a tank battle in extended lanes, fight will go for around 20 secs or more, 1 rotation of abilities and autos will give you full stacks and take roughly 2 secs with both champs leaving the remaining 18 secs full damage from fevor, so lets go with in that time frame 14 autos to be cautious cause we arent all pros :) 12 x 253.93 = 3047.16 bonus damage compared to a 21 sec fight for grasp @2000hp 2.5% is 50hp, can get a max of 5 times, thats only 250hp. would you prefer 250hp for that fight or 3k of extra damage? with fevor, you either kill, force from lane and burn pots /summoners allowing for team plays around map secondly, a team fight at same level these wont go for as long as your target should be dead. lets go with 10 secs to kill the carry, 4 sec to get full stack as you need to get to backline and an auto or 2, leaving 6 seconds on target get 4 autos. 4 x 253.93 = 1015.72 adc or mid out of fight then you turn onto other of the 2 carries, didnt really get efficient stacks cause was low hp, but consumed 4 more secs. time to kill support and top tanks 3 more secs to get fevor stacks since your in the fight, 5 autos and tank is dead fight over. that is roughly going to be how the team fight goes, give or take a lil. analysis for that is total fight went for 22 second, only able to get 9 autos at full stacks during this fight 9 x 253.93 = 2285.37 bonus damage for the fight also allowing you to push the carries out of fight efficiently or kill. keeping your team protected from wipe, also extends fight to get team set up defensively with re spawns same fight 22 secs 6 x 2.5% = 300hp regen. my point of view here is that 300 hp in a team fight might keep you alive for 2 more seconds, but the damage that you deal far outweighs the damage you can absorb. Now that the numbers are out, tactics come into play as well. lets say because of that extra damage you do to kills adc but you die, your team now has 2 carries a jg and support, enemy team has 1 carry, 1 support, 1 tank top and jg, who is more likely to win this fight given your team now should do more damage?turns out enemy doesnt want to fight because its uneven fight, you can now pressure baron/dragon and force a fight, or push a tower freely because they cant defend it. So tactically there is alot more objectives you can control by trading your top for their carry
: OPL Last Hit
simple analysis of this is in the raw numbers, example of this is around 20 min in a game most top laners are around lvl 12-13. @ 8 stacks you will do an extra 84.64 physical damage per basic attack, working of only getting 3 autos in 4 secs that's an extra 253.92 damage, in the same time grasp will only return 50hp-100hp if you fight ticks just over 4 secs for reset (given that you are at 2k hp at this stage). expand it out a lil bit, fight goes for 7 seconds you can apply 6-7 basic attacks 507-592 damage with fevor and for grasp you can only sustain max 100 hp at 2k hp as you see, raw numbers stack in the favor for fevor. That's my take on the difference
Daemonkz (OCE)
: Hey Blzdragon, Do you have any solo q requirements? I personally do not have the best solo q history but I do have a good team history. On my last team I was the Jungler and Shot caller for Level Headed Gaming. We entered the Oceanic Open Ladder and in the 2 Bi-Weekly tournaments we entered we only lost games to Sin Gaming and Absolute Gaming. Also on the Cybergaming ladder we go to 8th place. Unfortunately our mid laner damaged his wrist and we had to forfeit all games over the last 2 weeks after having issues with our subs. While I have only played jungle on the teams I have been on in the past, I have been practicing ADC in Solo q to better understand bot lane and would happily move from jungle to support.
No official requirements, tho if your in solo q as silver you will have extremely hard time playing against diamond/master/challenger players. even myself as a plat solo q player cant match mechanically with the higher level players, i m yet to see a silver/gold that isnt a smurf that can win 9/10 matches v a diamond player, the only way i would really trial a silver or gold is if the match history was clearly phenomenal
: LF serious players to trial for a sister team to current our challenger team
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: D4 Jng/Sup Main, LF Ranked 5s
add me blzdragon i coach/analyze a team, the team was constantly playing hight ranked diamond/challenger team, thoi we had a jungle/shotcall issue, if u think u can help talk with me
Chrisboii (OCE)
: end of days for riot
probs cause he trolls every game and they gave him que extensions :p
: Simple facts of ranked Solo Queue
its simple im a plat player as jungler when i smurf to learn to lane properly in bronze/silver, i still win majority of lanes but even when i lose, my teaming and warding and helping others is what wins games, and its a big part of what most bronze- gold players lack, first thing low elo players do is blame other for their bad plays and get caught out of position and blame the support for not warding the whole map, as its only the supports job to ward and no1 elses (yes i am joking) in bronze i win 85% my games some games u just cant win as stated above in silver i win 75-85% in gold i win 65-75% in plat i win 45-60% and this is the elo i belong until i can get better mehanically and better with decision making if ur not carrying ur games every game, its where u belong cause ur not doing something right or just not good enough to climb
: Can we have Normal Draft Pick re-enabled on OCE?
the reason it was removed in the first place is because there wasnt enough players playing draft and it was always unfair match ups the other day i was on a bronze account playing against diamond and challenger players, how the hell is that a fair match up, the only fair que cough cough is ranked, does any1 even play team builder? wtf is that cant say ive played it once yet i used to always play draft
: Perhaps this is what MasterMerkinen was referring when he said conversion rates would confuse people. >If the aussies dollar goes down it means that operating costs in australia are cheaper since they relate everything to us dollar. so not only are things cheaper for them to run in australia they are making more profit by increasing rp prices and using weak australian dollar as an excuse I'm going to give you a comparison, to demonstrate how what you wrote is actually the opposite. Lets imagine part of the OCE server malfunction, and a part need to placed. Riot OCE contact the distributor in USA (seeing as everything needs to be the same as the NA server set up), and purchases an $100 USD replacement. - If the AUD dollar was about 1:1 with the USD as it was when OCE opened up, they would pay $100 AUD. - If the AUD was at current rates 1:0.76 USD then OCE would need to pay $130 AUD for the same piece of equipment. Hence they pay more not less when the dollar decreases in value.
but as Riot have already stated they only deal with US dollar, meaning head office in america pays for that shit meaning it doesnt cost anything more what so ever if it comes from america, but if they use that money from head office and purchase an item in australia, costs come down. they dont convert to $AU then purchase from america. if head office was in australia and they used $AU its a diff story but as riot stated, this is not the fact. So for instance if they were paying workers in aus 100k $AU pa it now only costs them 75k $USD pa rather than the 90-95k $USD it was when it started so on and so forth on the bright side i install the NBN for a living so i know a lil about networking and server maintenence aand i know where the stuff comes from, and alot of it comes from mexico believe it or not
: LF Top & Mid laner for ranked 5s gold+
no thanks dont need players like you
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: Some people have knowledge not mechanics! Like me ... ... ... qq mechanics.
agreed, some people are very good at analyzing and stratergies. but when it comes to reaction times and gameplan not very good also having some1 look in from the outside will give you honest advice without bias, which makes a big diff
: You do realize that this is a general consumer product. Everything bought in Australia is more expensive than in America. No doubt you've not complained about the prices of your phones or other video games which are bought on disc, despite them, in general, being much more expensive than their american counterpart. Riot is simply altering their prices to reflect the change in the economy. In comparison to what Americans pay, we are getting more than they are for the same amount of money, and Riot is simply altering the prices to make it fair for everyone. It's not like they're forcing you to buy RP, so stop complaining like an entitled 12 year old who hasn't got the latest iPhone. thanks bruh :)
i dont have the latest iphone :P i got samasung and its still not the lastest And i dont need to complain about the price, there is ongoing compaints and lawsuits regaurding pricing of iphones in australia compared to US. Your should keep up with this stuff before making urself look even more stupid from previous posts. The main prob i have is the fact that they are trying to say its to cover costs, clearly its not, since everything is paid in USD, when AUD get s cheaper everything in AUS meaning all the wages/server blah blah blah cost less than what they were paying. so there is no need to cover costs as they are already covered this is all about profit and they are masking it rather than saying so. if they just said so people wouldnt care as much, still would but not as much, if the AUD goes up they will not change it and lose money, as they waited for it to go down to justify it, they didnt make an adjustment when the AUD was stronger and had to decrease the price of RP
Xeo kytaf (OCE)
: I'll say it again, Riot are a business. Businesses work off of profit, or did you not learn that in school? I'll also repeat what I said to another person, no one is making any of you buy RP. So, I still don't see what the problem is.
as i said in other posts, the prob is not the increase, its the fact they are saying its to cover costs, when clearly when AUD goes down everything is cheaper not more expensive when they pay for everything in USD, so they are lying out there arse, if they came out and said we are doing this to make more money i wouldnt care. but they're masking it, the aussie dollar got to nearly even with the USD and yet i bet not 1 thought crossed their minds to decrease rp price. So if they are gunna do something dont %%%%ing try to hide the truth behind other facts.
: Calling lanes
prob is every1 wants to do what the pros do, they dont have their own minds to make up new stratergies. and first thing they want to do is report u for not playing the current meta. ppl just cry espesially of u die once, and then the rage starts and they cry all match cause they are toxic and want things done how the pros do it
: LOL all these complaints about sever DCing
love when people run their mouths before getting all the facts, its hilarious to look at all the %%%%s
: The OCE Server as a whole.
lets face facts, if riot banned all the trolls, they would not have oce community to make money from, and this is why they wont do it
: A company that wants to make money, heaven forbid! Your consumer, and how you spend your money is your affair. Riot is a business, and how they price their products is their affair. Stop trying to turn this into some massive social injustice. #firstworldproblems
yea, i got no problems if they want more profit its business, i have a prob that they try to blame weak aussie dollar and lie instead of tell the truth, when aud gets weaker they spending less on everything the do in australia and they are claiming that this is to cover costs of it being more expensive in australia. i earn more than 90% of australians do, and i dont buy rp, i just have values, and here they are hiding facts to try to make it sound like its not all about profit.
: You do realise that because the cost of living here is '3x higher', the cost of running a business, especially one where you have to pay skilled workers, is also higher than america? congrats on being %%%%%%ed.
i do relise this, do you relise if they pay for everything in USD when AUD gets weak its cheaper for them to run stuff in australia not more expensive, therefore it should be cheaper or atleast stay the same. so before u you make yourself look stupid, you should relise this
GeckoThug (OCE)
: Another spot on comment. I also spend quite a large amount of money on Riot. (mainly for IP boosts and as a thankyou to Riot for such a good game) and I'm not complaining. We can't expect OCE to keep their servers open here if they can't appropriately cover their costs. Imagine the outcry if OCE shut down. Now that would be a massive LoL! :D
> [{quoted}](name=GeckoThug,realm=OCE,application-id=3fteLeTW,discussion-id=MXv9uHnL,comment-id=00130000,timestamp=2015-03-06T01:44:25.999+0000) > > Another spot on comment. I also spend quite a large amount of money on Riot. (mainly for IP boosts and as a thankyou to Riot for such a good game) and I'm not complaining. We can't expect OCE to keep their servers open here if they can't appropriately cover their costs. Imagine the outcry if OCE shut down. Now that would be a massive LoL! :D with weaker AUD things got cheaper for them not more expensive
: God, reading the amount of complaining on this actually makes me feel sick. So much entitlement. I checked the current amounts of RP you get compared to these new ones, $20 and below the difference is bare noticeable. It's the price of a single tier 1 skin on sale. This is the amount most casual people would spend. Above that, the difference gets noticeable, mostly at the $100 mark where you're losing 2900. But if you have $100 to waste on a free game for some cosmetics, be honest, would you really care about that missing amount? I certainly wouldn't, and I've spent over a grand. I checked the current exchange rate between AUD and NZD as well, and currently 1 NZD is worth 0.96 AUD, and you thing that that tiny difference in currency means you deserve extra RP? Really? If the currency keeps falling I can see this being a problem, but even then, grow up! It's a FREE game that you have absolutely NO NEED to buy RP for. Stop acting like Riot has just launched WW3 on consumers.
i asked about this when aussie dollar was 97c compared to USD and believe it or not they had no interest in decreasing RP prices, only now that they can increase them is there an issue. i dont care that they change cause i wont buy, im just sour that they are trying to tell people its to cover costs, when everything they do in australia is now cheaper for them than it previously was
: To be perfectly honest, RIOT i understand completely why you are doing this, i was a little annoyed at first but i cant really be too annoyed because after all you are a free to play game and we choose to spend our money on RP and the price should be fair everywhere, i do 100% understand why you are doing this and i just hope there wont be too many people who will get salty about the changes
with AUD getting weaker means the cost of everything they do here is cheaper, yet they are raising prices, is that what you understand ill be clear, this is all about profit not covering costs like they say
: I love how people are actually complaining about this, we are basically getting 1 and a half cookies while everybody else is getting just 1 when we pay the same price. And people are going to complain about how 'UNFAIR' this is when the baker starts to give us just 1 cookie. lmfao this is a change i didnt want to happen because i know i was benefiting but now that its happened i have no right to complain.
actually we are getting half a cookie, as cost of living in australia is near the highest around the world we earn twice as much with wages but cost of living on average is 3x the amount for the rest of the world.
Xeo kytaf (OCE)
: The %%%%%ing is real. It's not even that much of an increase in price. If you can't afford it, don't buy it. It's that simple. Riot are giving you a game to play, FOR FREE, and you lot are complaining about RP price rises? Just be glad you don't have to pay to play, like with WoW and other MOBA's. It's really not that big of a deal. I ain't even mad at Riot.
it may not be much of an increase, the fact is that as everything is on a USD scale for them operating costs are cheaper than they were if the AUD goes down, so this is all about profit for them not covering costs
: As much as I dislike these changes, I really like Riot's honesty and explanations. Many companies would only tell you what is happening and not why. Riot is not like that. They seem to be very transparent in their decisions and explanations and they always provide one for large changes that are happening. A good example of this would be champion changes as well as their response to SpectateFaker. Keep it up Rito
the fact is they are only honest to a degree, they only share what they want us to know. If the aussies dollar goes down it means that operating costs in australia are cheaper since they relate everything to us dollar. so not only are things cheaper for them to run in australia they are making more profit by increasing rp prices and using weak australian dollar as an excuse
HeartVine (OCE)
: Guys, quit your complaining. Sure it's a bit unfair but you have to consider what's happening elsewhere. For one thing non-Australian players are going to get it worst on OCE and the same thing is happening to Canada and Europe. Just be thankful Riot waited this long to do this and isn't asking for more. On top of all that we've been given two weeks notice so we can get some more RP at the current prices, something Riot didn't have to do.
actually they only waited this long because they had to, if they done this a year or 2 ago they would have to decrease rp price instead of increase it
: We're not being punished, we'll be paying an equivalent amount for RP based on our exchange rates. Here is the math: Currently in NA, $10 US gets 1380 RP, which works out to about **72c US per point.** Now $10 AU is equivalent to $7.78 US [Check it here](http://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=10&From=AUD&To=USD) At $7.78 US for 1100 RP, that works out to **70c US per point** So you see, we're not actually worse off (marginally better with the current exchange). Please think before going nuts over the prices. It's not like Riot is forcing your precious skins down your throat.
they dont take into account that cost of living is 3x the amount in australia compared to america, they just see we earn more so we should pay more. it a business and all they are worried about is profits. raising prices get more money per item, just gets less people buying items. also gets people not referring new people to the game and people put up with less game crashes and player toxicity and leave as a result. will hurt riot in the long run. i remember when the aussie dollar was 97 cents and im sure there was not a discussion on whether they should decrease the price of rp, cause they are a bunch of greedy pricks
: RP adjustment in Oceania
LMFAO RIOT YOUR ARE A DISGRACE When pricing originally came out and it was cheaper to buy RP on american server than oce, i asked if the aussie dollar went up would they change it to reflect, and the aussie dollar did go up yet riot didnt not take a pay cut cause they are greedy pricks, but as soon as the aussie dollar went down, they are real quick to change it to make themselves more money. that just ensures my decision not to buy rp and not to promote this game and recruit players to the game, and a big reason less and less players and playing LOL Soon enough it will cost $5 a month to play as less and less people spend money on rp as its not worth it $15 to get a standard 1350 skin is an absolute joke. Do you take into account the cost of living is 3x the price in australia than it is in america. YOU ARE TURNING INTO BLIZZARD BEING GREEDY %%%%S, u charge us more before u fix the problems with the game and the constant crashes and toxicity of players. ill still play but will not spend 1 cent on your stores
: What to do when people claim they're a higher rank and its a "smurf"
there is more to carrying than kills, got myself to plat4 last year and it was mainly on teaming and objectives and map awareness not getting 15-20 kills a match, so match history isnt always a good. u can get plenty of bronze/silver players that can dominate lane every game, but have no idea how to do the rest which is y they are still in bronze/silver. sometimes its easier to just give them the roll as they prob cant play another roll anyway and if you can it will be better than the 'Smurf' feeding cause he doesnt play another lane

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