Rioter Comments
okh8rs (OCE)
: I think OCE is a trash server compared to NA
Not really. The player base is smaller but not small enough to warrant the skill level of roughly plat and below to differ from the NA plat and below. Higher elo I agree, but low, no, not at all. The only other factors which could influence are ping and culture. Generally OCE has better ping than NA and I feel like OCE culture is a bit more troll at least in the higher ranks although that could be disputed. If you think gold in OCE is a shithole, you will think gold in Korea, NA, EUW and EUNE would be as bad if not worse (unless you're being biased) due to the addition of language barriers in some scenarios. As a side note, I've played in NA for a couple of years (before OCE was a server) and now in OCE and they're as bad as each other from my experience.
Rioter Comments
: Another thing supports now don't get, on top of the mountain of existing things...
In terms of skill support (below masters generally) is the weakest role to play. Unless you're playing Thresh and landing Madlife hooks I doubt that you will be showing more skill or w/e than your mid, adc etc which MOST people give honor for (unless there's a very kind player in the game and they get it). In addition, I see supports get honored a lot, you could just be unlucky. As an adc I almost always honor my support and I see a lot of adcs doing that too. Supports generally play consistently well whereas on teams a lot of the time there would be a player who would play better than that, mainly because you can only show a certain degree of skill as a support and every other role surpasses it by so much. Being positive/nice in game will get you honors if you want them badly, from my experience extremely nice people get honors flung at them.
Gehirn (OCE)
: Login Issues - July 13th
i love spark ytb
: If everyone understands what I am trying to say then they would be able to clearly explain to me the flaws in my plans without me being able to make any counterpoints, I would be forced to agree with their clear logical outline of why that flaw cannot be fixed without re-thinking the entire setup. However so far not a single person out of "everyone who understands" has been able to accomplish that, leading only to the conclusion that you in fact do not understand at all.
They have, you're just unbelievably biased and will try your damned hardest to defend yourself with anything you possibly can even if it's something stupid like "well you're making assumptions so I can't agree with what you're saying" even if the "assumptions" are needed and logical. E.g when you argued with me about Apdo that one time awhile ago or something around that time.
tisla (OCE)
: Currently in silver 4 playing on a 2007 aldi laptop. Anyone else have similar specs to mine?
I am quite similar to you, although I'm in diamond. I spent like 6 hours straight trying anything to improve fps and I ended up also changing my task manager priorities when I start a game and making LoL client a high priority which seemed to fix it. If I had anything else like Spotify open I would lower that priority as well. I mained adc to diamond~
: Well that is why I am getting back into starcraft 2, because in league, no matter how solid I am in my own gameplay, it has next to no impact relative to the rest of the game. It is always relying on others, see I can't find holes in my own team comp that I specifically designed from the ground up to literally have no holes. Skill is more important before strategy because a strategy has no effect if it can't be executed correctly. Since 99% of player are neither strategic or mechanically sound, it is impossible for any team to play any team comp, so I understand why they have resorted to playing individual champions with no teamwork mechanics. It is just frustrating from my own perspective to realise the insane potential of it and I am unable to do anything about it. I guess humans are not evolved enough to be ready for it.
Or you could be good at the game, climb to top .5%+ then play with people who can pull it off?
: The thing is everyone thinks they know how the game works regardless of if they actually have thought it all through or not. I have both experienced it THOROUGHLY and I have even posted videos detailing EXACTLY how it should be played out. Clearly you did not watch the videos because if you did without a biased perspective, you would realise that we have literally everything we need early game to defend against everything they could POSSIBLY throw at us. There is a reason I have so many other team comps with similar playstyles because I have also planned ahead of the scenario where people actually realise how broken the comp really is and ban it out in tournaments. There is a reason I am constantly looking for new players to test how well they can play out the team comps. I simply have not been confident in the players ability to execute the strategies. Give me a whole team who can play it to a minimum required standard and ONLY then can you dismiss it after you have seen the results of it. All I have been asking is to be given that chance to prove it, regardless of how terribly stupid it looks to people. Once they start to ask questions about it and listen to my answers, they actually begin to start thinking that maybe this has been thought out properly and could work. I do want to seem cocky, because that shows I have strong confidence in what I am stating. Would you really consider what I am saying if I said I wasn't so sure if it was any good or not, and since you believe it is ridiculous in the first place that would give no challenge for you to acknowledge that there is a possibility and it might be worth looking into. Sorry but you haven't the slightest clue about how the setup can play out against certain things, which is understandable because you have not experienced it as I have. The answer to this particular issue is you having an open inconclusive mind about things and only until you have solid proof that it can't be done better than you perceive it can you confidently state it to be true. I have not been able to test it against a team who has tried to counter it so despite my knowledge and tons of hours put into trying to think of a way to counter my own team comp, I cannot conclude that it will go as smoothly as I am suggesting, but I have a strong belief towards it based on calculations of my own game knowledge. Test thoroughly before concluding anything. Otherwise you risk missing out on something that could change your own perspective for the better.
No comp is good versus everything and it will crumble to another strategy that would be formed. The reason what you're saying bothers me so much is due to the fact that team comp aside, I felt as if my team could just do this and hold out we can beat other, good teams. If my team could play the composition properly and hold until late. I've succeeded so many times with such strategies myself and had full faith that they would work but you seem to fail to understand how wrong you can be. There will always be another team of players, or team comp to knock you down. I played with teams and comps which I thought to be nearly perfect when I was more novice to professional play, but it took me versing OCS+ teams for me to realize how hilariously easy it is to be abused by players who know what they're doing. They could see holes I couldn't. You can't be so confident in something which hasn't been proven to work in a high level environment. If it can't work in a high level environment, there are problems which can be abused. Skill is more important than team composition until you reach extremely high levels of play, I wouldn't be worried about comps if I was you. I'd worry about getting better.
: See, it is not only me who has an ego the size of a mountain, which is partially the problem with this entire scenario in the first place. Everyone is so convinced that they can't be wrong that logic and facts don't actually affect their judgement unless it agrees with them. Instead of actually making points and counter points like you did in your previous post, you just resorted to insult which literally does nothing at all for either of us, unless you get a kick out of it or something. This is a corner of the game I have explored the shit out of for 4 years. I have found some amazing things which I have tried to share, and only very recently is it starting to be explored like the master yi and kayle cheese combo. Now I had built an entire gameplan around that sort of style 4 years ago and I have many other team comps with similar team based dependencies. Individually, those champions are not as strong as meta champs, but paired together they are insanely stronger than meta comps. This information is completely irrelevant to everyone though because humans apparently are perfect and can't be wrong about anything.
A lot of the reason (myself included) that people don't even give you much of a chance anymore is because of your views and seemingly strong Dunning-Kruger effect. For instance, you say that "...all of your ranks which you believe you worked so hard to acquire were mostly not of your own input." You say this yet boosting exists. When pro players go to other regions for tournaments and such in 100 games they can get masters/chall easily (with high starting mmr to be fair, low platish probably). You say things that simply aren't really true such as "Well the map pressure is lacking only in the early game, and we specifically have anti map pressure like zilean to go to whatever lane is being split pushed at the time." Let's say you're versing a fairly popular split pusher such as a Fiora. You send Zilean to try and clear the waves or whatever and you get dove, you use your ult on yourself, then Fiora kills you when you respawn. In what world would Zilean be good in that scenario. If he verses someone less popular such as a Shen right, Shen will just ignore you and take turret. You try to double bomb him he will just e to dodge or sidestep. You try to ignore him and clear the wave he will simply engage on you and tanks like that have high enough base damage to kill you if you try to repeat that more than once. If for some reason you're fed and he can't kill you, he can bring _anyone_ else on his team and just kill you then. If you play a very weak early game comp such as your comps are and your defense of it is "just play defensively and wait for twitch to farm" or something along those lines you can win some games, of course you can, but as soon as you verse anyone who's good at the game, they will ravage you. If all 3 of your lanes are losing due to versing a good early game team and the enemy jungler makes your jungle his own, they will just snowball and win in 20~ minutes. If your jungler is a good duelist such as Shyvana, it doesn't mean shit. The opponents laners will always be able to roam faster than yours would and they will punish her. Their laners will shove in, ward the living shit out of your jungle and make sure most of Shyvanas camps are contested and she can't do anything but lose camps and get behind. Your entire team comp relies on Twitch becoming relevant, but what happens when your Twitch is 30 cs 10 minutes in because he can't farm. What happens if the enemy adc knows their wave management and keeps his wave his side of the map 80% of the time and zones you off not only cs, but experience. What happens if as soon as you step forward that little bit to try to hit level 5 when the enemy adc is already level 6 and the jungler ganks you and the enemy top tp's into your lane as the mid roams down to 5 man you and your early game is bad. What happens? You get absolutely massacred no matter what you try to do. You can try to match the 5v5 but you're not an early game team and theirs is so rip you. They will be aware that all twitch wants to do is farm so they will do everything in their power to stop that from happening. That is some of the reasons why people think your comp is bad. You might be able to pull this off against teams who aren't good or knowledgeable enough to know this or put this into action, but as soon as you do, you will fail, badly. When I versed you in open ladder with a relatively decent team who didn't actually think much about your comp who laughed at you when we saw you in brackets, we bet you in 28 minutes. 21-5 in kills. Imagine versing a team who not only was decent like we were, but cared enough to try and counter your comps or whatever, you'd be devastated. The point I'm trying to make is. What you say is stupid to most people, at least the ones who know the game well enough to debunk your stuff. Good on you for trying to find new things and such, but you seem so cocky, condescending and ignorant sometimes it's very difficult for people to take what new things you say seriously.
Main Line (OCE)
: That's true but you are going to be versing a team of 5 top 50 challenger players, they will be tough.
Yes I do definitely agree and i don't know why I'm being downvoted considering I've been on those diamond teams (although we had great orgs behind us). It is unlikely for a diamond team to beat a challenger team but it can definitely be done with hard work and players who aren't bad enough to give up large leads to these challenger players. Most teams in the ool have 100 lp challengers at best with some outliers.
Main Line (OCE)
: GL vs the all challenger player teams in OOL.
If the team has no weak enough players that will just outright get dumpstered by said challenger player teams they can still quite easily win depending on teamwork and practice.
20 03 17 (OCE)
: High school tournament
It's in lateish July. You can sign up now if you google it.
Rioter Comments
: People still looking for only 2% of the player base to be CONSIDERED for a team. Logic is going to hit you like a cannonball to the face.
Or he can let anyone join and get rolled by team with higher ranked players because their players are better. You know this all too well yourself!
: As i agree that for the most part there is no difference between males and females in games. There is this lovely thing that certain males on games have called a "f*ckhead gene". This gene leads them to believe that they can flirt and make inappropriate sexual comments towards females who really just want to have a good time online. I can't say for sure why she is aiming for a female only group, but due to the existence of the "f*ckhead gene" i can understand the appeal.
I mean generally speaking males and females act quite differently in speech and on games so it's nice to be able to play with some people you can relate to more.
: RECURRING FEMALE LoL PLAYERS FOR ~Miss~ CLUB
Don't get baited by them, they're probably trolls
: So if I'm not gold plus I'm not allowed to climb? That's retarded. If I can 1v9 that means I am not just better than bronze I'm better than silver. Because to 1v9 you usually need to be about 2-3 tiers below your actual true mmr. The state I'm in is I'm visibly better than my current elo. I could have a team that is unbeliebely meh, no one is good but no one fed either. And guess what, I'll carry that game 9/10. It's not until it becomes a 1v9 and I have to carry my own weight plus the deadweight of 4 feeders where I can't win a game by my own. Unfortunately this is bronze somehow 90% of this Elo are feeders.
Statistically speaking if you perform better than the enemy counterpart your win ratio over a large sample size will be greater than 50% and you will therefore climb.
: Does ELO get me egirls
Well I got D1 and it didn't work Although I'm not 6'4" and don't row for U.C. Davis
: Im at a loss.
Get good and carry them 1v9 it's easy. If you can't carry them you're too bad to get out of bronze and if it seems impossible you have much to learn about the game
Audafire (OCE)
: Where is ITEM SETS?The ITEMSET IS PART OF THE GAMEPLAY AND STRATEGY FYI. OPEN SHOP CLICK RECOMMEND
: More people need to add me and shit talk me, this made my day.
I think you're a fucking idiot but I'll admit that guy doesn't know how to insult very well lmao You really shouldn't be flamed though just the odd ridicule is enough
belquin (OCE)
: OPL Junglers Round Table (LIVE Friday 6-7pm AEDT)
What can you do if you feel useless in the early game? E.g can't seem to gank anywhere, invade, 1v1/2v2 etc
: Comparing the average kda of teammates over multiple accounts
: Really well done!
The skin looks amazing Riot did an amazing job
: ITS AMAZING CHALLENGER PLAYER CHALLENGER PLAYS LIKE BROFRESCO 8===========D~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It pains me your name is "DILDOSAREUS" rather than "DILDOSAURUS"
KIWl (NA)
: Are there any League communities around Southland, NZ?
There's a facebook group for stuff around Canterbury and such but that's all I know. It's called Southern Summoners
: Didn't they do that to Kog maw tho? I mean, it was because he was broken but they do revert reworks?
Yeah they did in that case because his new mechanic was supremely unhealthy/unbalanceable
ciaô (OCE)
: In game shop
They do.
: dw I am forever bronze scrub who will never make it out of bronze,
>dw I am forever~~ bronze ~~ gold scrub who will never make it out of ~~bronze~~ gold,
: Looking to form team to make it to OCS
>solid OCS roster >Requirements: Silver V + >No troll plz I am serious and this matter is not to be taken lightly ???
BeefyBill (OCE)
: Coach LF Team/individuals to work with
I'd be interested as a solo player~
Crayzee (OCE)
: Memes
x5
: > [{quoted}](name=SilkenFawn,realm=OCE,application-id=mR0UmRrp,discussion-id=vYQkBi2T,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2017-02-28T04:09:42.146+0000) > > Just leave it man white pumah has issues My issue is with riot, I am just looking for other players at the higher level who can see just how obviously flawed the system is.
You've played in ools and gotten massacred by every team cause you played like a brainless monkey please so flawed
Ingénue (OCE)
: LF Twisted treeline ranked friends ♥
: > [{quoted}](name=lmperius,realm=OCE,application-id=mR0UmRrp,discussion-id=YgF4EHYt,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-02-13T06:40:02.381+0000) > > probably deserve to stay in that elo. Are you saying that you are unsure but are basing your claim on a "more than likely"? That would ironically suggest that you are relying on luck being in your favour to support your claim, in a game that literally relies on luck before your own actions even become relevant. I mean, I have already climbed out of silver and have peaked at gold 4 which already invalidates your first sentence. Which means you assumed it. You then assumed that I play poorly, you must think so badly of all the gold-plat-diamond teams I seem to consistently perform against. Then you try to give me tips as if your previous statements were true in the first place, then you give bad advice which I have already been obliged to test in the past and it failed. After all that garbage you then claim that the comment was on behalf of all the people who simply do not like me because of my opinion which has yet to be disproved which further devalues your statements. Do yourselves a favour and stop wasting your time trying to cut down what you don't understand.
>Consistantly perform against http://imgur.com/a/af5nH Oh yeah baby
BigDogTim (OCE)
: OCS RULING
Because if you're under 16 you're a minor (I believe) and OCS is the place where contracts and such become a normal thing so it's not a good idea for Riot to lower the restriction or change it. Idrc honestly but I assume that's what it is.
Perfect (OCE)
: transfering to euw problem
Minimise your club/friends list on the right side Drag to the right (so you can see the right side of the shop) Click the head+toggle button on the right hand side which when you hover says "Account" There you will find transfers
: Come back to me when you can provide facts, not assumptions. I put in the effort to provide statistics, and all I ever get met with is being told I am wrong without ever being shown WHY I am wrong. I am open to being shown exactly how apdo manipulates his teammates into winning their lane without being anywhere near it. I am not simply here looking to complain, I am looking for answers. If you can provide them, then it is up to you whether or not you will take the time to do so.
You're the most ignorant person I've ever met it's unbelievable. The amount of help people try to give you and the shit you answer you don't deserve help. Stop fucking posting on boards. Do you want me to prove my assumptions? Stop being a biased %%%% and watch a vod of him playing and you'll understand. You don't want to be proved wrong. You don't want to understand what EVERY good player understands. You just want to think you're right no matter WHO says it or WHAT is said. Faker could explain why you're wrong and you would complete go against what he is said cause he can't prove it to you because the statistics or reasoning isn't good enough, or in other words it isn't coming from you. We can't prove it to you if you won't let us. You must have a mental disability to be this thick. I may sound harsh but you're actually fucking painful to try and help. Either realise you're unbelievably biased, ignorant and not willing to learn or just don't post again.
: Apdo's smurf account compared to others
We meet again my old friend. I can understand how your statistics can seem like they perfectly prove your point but if you take the time to think about it without any bias then you would realise there are other factors in play. I was going through the statistics and your graph for a while since it's quite interesting but I do still believe that you aren't thinking about this in a non-biased manner. You seem to be looking for something to prove you right, rather than prove you wrong which you should strive for. >Despite this disadvantage of his teammates KDA potential being lower due to supports usual kda ratio, all of his teammates pulled out on average, 36% more kills than they had deaths. With these teammates he achieved a 100% winrate over 45 games. Despite not performing in every game he still won them all. There are some important differences to consider. Apdo's division was high gold > low plat = teams and enemy higher skill (less deaths avg) Whitepuma's division was silver I ish Whitepumah's division was silver IV ish Apdo mains MID The other 2 main ADC Now his teammates played better than yours did... why? I have answers. For one he plays mid lane and that is a role that can impact the game more than ADC. He can invade, roam and solo the enemy laner whilst being able to get better vision down (enemy jg camps) support his jungler and generally be more of a menace than an ADC would. There were some jungle games as well but that is arguably the best carry role at least in higher divisions. ADC CAN CARRY but it does become more difficult unless you are very good and creating leads and carrying teamfights which anyone less than diamond would not be able to do well. The reason why Apdo's team played better than yours is because he helped them. He warded, a lot. He can roam to help all lanes AND jungler and he can provide massive pressure and be able to rely on his godlike decision making to help him in any bad spot he is in (3v1 etc). His most played champion by far is Corki who has insane poke and can roam VERY well especially with things like Package. He would ping a lot and something that you can't do which he does is if he ever gets leads, he doesn't often die. If you are ahead the worst thing you can possibly do is die. You give them some of your massive chunk of EXP and gold. Your KDA's on WhitePuma AND WhitePumah were both less than 3. Frankly that's horrid. **You can get ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the kills you want but if you feed them back every single game your teams gonna have a fucking hard time.** Look down your champions, most KDA's are laughable and the ones that aren't are 1-2 games played. Apdo's KDA's are enough to get a hardcore LoL player off tbh. I guarantee you don't ping enough. You die like you were born to do it and you feed back all the kills you get in gold and experience. You don't know when to go to take objectives like Baron, Dragon or even turrets. You don't know HOW and WHEN to lane swap and WHY you do it. You don't know how to itemise or build your champion. You don't know how to carry games and you have the strongest case of the Dunning-Kruger effect I've ever fucking seen and my ex was a shocker let me tell you but damn. His teams are better because he is better and provides for them. His pinging, csing, warding and knowledge of EVERYTHING incl small things you've probably never thought of like positioning in laning phase and being able to accurately predict the game. He won't let his bot die for free. He won't feed back his 4 level EXP lead and Legendary shut down gold. YOU WOULD. Your KDA's show it. Your team has to verse stronger enemies than his team's do because you are fucking terrible at knowing how to control the game and what to do with a lead and you die. YOU LITERALLY AVERAGE 5.0 MORE DEATHS A GAME THAN HIM AND YOU COMPLAIN THAT YOUR TEAM DOES 30% WORSE. whitepuma having a higher win % than whitepumah even though teams are a bit better is because of 1 of a couple of reasons. You're playing against worse people who can't abuse your shitty positioning and knowledge thus you don't die thus your team has an easier time. You're lucky, yeah, lucky. Win streaks and lose streaks are a thing IF YOU AREN'T SMURFING but I don't know the people you versed in provs with it so I had to add that as an option. You give me a level 30 bronze account and I tryhard on it and my teams will be 50% better than yours or w/e cause I won't die. I will ping and I will set up my team for victory, something you can't do. As a side note, there were no real games Apdo didn't perform well. Only 2 games were average (by his standard) but he still had great CSPM, lower deaths than you and warded like a season 3 jungler (a lot) + his damage was the highest in the game by far.
Vicenza (OCE)
: LFT - ADC Main
very good adc {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
SEKAI (OCE)
: Help: I auto-tilt whenever I see Lee Sin on enemy team
: Is OCE big enough for 2 queue types?
People don't want to be autofilled, but they'd rather take the bullet than not be able to play with friends. Flex is for people who want to play in a team environment or with friends and Solo Queue is for someone to grind the ladder and improve by themselves. If you take away either of them the large quantity of the people who play the removed queue will hate it. If put in a position where you either had both queues or had autofill less often at the expense of losing a queue, I'm 99% sure that almost all people would keep both.
: Prove to me with video evidence how ADC can 1v3 and win their lane
Even challenger players have came along and shat on all of your arguments to the point where you can't respond most of the time. You try to be logical and you feel like you are but you are **unbelievably** ignorant and naive. Faker could tell you this stuff and you would tell him he's illogical and doesn't know what he's talking about because you are so caught up in your ignorance. You're actually painful to watch sometimes. You can get an 80% win rate if you're very good. I cannot give you video evidence as I do not record smurf games but you can achieve 80%. A lot of it comes down to not missing cs (hard with no attack speed in runes!), being able to punish people for every mistake and miss-step and constantly using things like the trading stance to get free damage down. You're good at none of this. You may think you're good and if you wanna test it, 1v1 me. > "No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong." It's a very good quote, in science. It's a terribly inaccurate and non applicable quote, in League of Legends. I could go indepth on it but I really cbf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoCBU8PNTFw -- Watch the first couple of minutes, look at the trades, see how he is 2v1ing and winning? You can pull this off constantly with positioning and knowing how to trade well. If you were playing this you would either die, deal 0 damage in trades, or get traded back on terribly. I can try to plays.tv my smurf games and show you but the way you think and act, nothing will get through to you even if you say it will.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ryuku,realm=OCE,application-id=mR0UmRrp,discussion-id=0KIEnoB3,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-01-09T02:02:13.728+0000) > > I am easy to teach as long as there are no logical flaws in the information I am being given. > > Your problem is you are not necessarily ignorant, but you go completely against meta and things that are used for a reason because you believe your way is better (I'd assume) and that is one of the reasons you're silver IV with that many ranked games. Like I said, as long as there are no logical flaws in the information I am being given, this incorporates mathematics into the equation which far too many people would "rather not talk about". > > You seem to be the recipient of the 'Dunning-Kruger effect' and you probably won't think you are if you're aware of it, which is a lil ironic. I have achieved masters in starcraft 2, in all 3 versions, in under a year for the first version and a lot less time for the other versions. I have reached superstar 1v1 in rocket league, which is about the equivalent of low diamond in league in under a year. I have reached a fairly high standard relative to the average gamer in basically every game I have played, yet after about 5 years, the only games I cannot seem to "perform" in are those which rely on others to increase my rank. I do however wrongfully assume that others are able to easily do what I can do, this has been proven. > > Mechanics alone can get you at least Gold. If you play that much you have no reason to be any less if you're physically and mentally capable which I would assume you are. I could get higher division than you are now without a keyboard, you can climb if you try hard enough. > > To climb, play ADC's like, Ashe, Caitlyn and Twitch (since you have 1 mil mastery on him). Build orthodox, take warlords since it's the best mastery for those ADC's incl Twitch. By god fix your runes and don't use that Ashe rune page, ever. Realise you're not good at all and you have a lot of improving to do, once you surpass that mental block you can finally achieve your goals. > 1000+ games on ashe, 1500+ games on twitch and maybe 100-200 games on caitlyn. Did I mention that I am looking for a challenger player to teach me how to adc and get 80% win rate in low elo solo queue? > Use websites like probuilds (http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Twitch ) > Use reddit.com/r/summonerschool > Find VoDs of high elo players on YouTube, specifically Chinese/Korean who play more Twitch. > > Don't tilt or flame, /mute all if necessary. **Important** > > Question every death and every decision you make and don't be ignorant and blame others, you want to improve. > > If you do all of this and actually try hard, you would be able to get at least Platinum this season. I have been doing all of this, for approximately 100% of my games. Watching what others do wrong can in itself be a learning tool to help you recognise what you should not do if you are ever in their situation playing in their shoes so to speak. What I do is see how I acted according to their actions and the one question everyone must ask themself is based on the situation, would they do it again? Everyone's response to something going wrong should not just be, "I should do something different next time". It should be more "why did it go wrong? why did I do what I did and was that the correct decision based off the information I had access to?" After that you can then assess where the blame lies, "did my teammate successfully do this and if not then there is nothing more that could be done after that point", which leads to the outcome that occurred. It is not simply your fault, especially in a team game. It is a matter of risk vs reward.
> Like I said, as long as there are no logical flaws in the information I am being given, this incorporates mathematics into the equation which far too many people would "rather not talk about". Do you think the people who made the flash/heal, normal adc runes and masteries, item builds etc didn't do the math? Koreans follow it because it's the most optimal usage of them to get the highest possible win % and it's changing quite a bit (runes and masteries wise) to keep being the optimal setup, that's why you should copy it. > I have reached a fairly high standard relative to the average gamer in basically every game I have played, yet after about 5 years, the only games I cannot seem to "perform" in are those which rely on others to increase my rank. I do however wrongfully assume that others are able to easily do what I can do, this has been proven. You only rely on others to an extent and I would assume you know this but as you said yourself, you won't pay for chall level coaching because you're sceptical. You can *easily* carry in your elo even on adc but you just simply don't know how to. In your elo, it's possible to go 5/0 with a constant 20+ cs lead 12 minutes in almost every single game and win by 25 minutes. Every single time you die in a game it can always be lead back to you doing something and you're not good enough to be able to tell if it was the correct decision or not, platinum level coaching can do this for you. On your top 3 champions, your average death total is 7. In that elo where diving is less prominent/well played and they don't know how to push leads etc, you should be able to average 1-2 max if you're playing it correctly. Having your average deaths this high shows that you are fucking up, a lot. > 1000+ games on ashe, 1500+ games on twitch and maybe 100-200 games on caitlyn. Did I mention that I am looking for a challenger player to teach me how to adc and get 80% win rate in low elo solo queue? On wasted-on-lol, I've over doubled the amount of time you've played. I'm quite worthy on the game knowledge side and I have managed to get Diamond 1 and have been an adc main for 3-4 seasons so I do know what I'm talking about. I am telling you a lot of useful information, especially the setup stuff and mentally knowing you can carry every game in low elo (unless 3 afk's or something crazy like that). I've been coached extensively and been on competitive teams and have been diamond+ for years, you should really take my word on a lot of this, I mean I'm not chall, but i'm better than most you will get. > I have been doing all of this, for approximately 100% of my games. Watching what others do wrong can in itself be a learning tool to help you recognise what you should not do if you are ever in their situation playing in their shoes so to speak. What I do is see how I acted according to their actions and the one question everyone must ask themself is based on the situation, would they do it again? Everyone's response to something going wrong should not just be, "I should do something different next time". It should be more "why did it go wrong? why did I do what I did and was that the correct decision based off the information I had access to?" After that you can then assess where the blame lies, "did my teammate successfully do this and if not then there is nothing more that could be done after that point", which leads to the outcome that occurred. It is not simply your fault, especially in a team game. It is a matter of risk vs reward. What i do is focus solely on myself, what it is possible for me to do and everything that can be classed as a mistake on my end for whatever reason I fix if necessary. I strive to be the perfect player, making the correct decisions 100% of the time and never making a misplay or even a slight miss-click. I constantly try to push the boundaries and question everything. If I die, what could I have done differently? What could I have thought about prior to this to save myself or make the correct play? Why did I think the way I did? I fix the mistakes and I move on. Know your win condition and follow, ping a lot, don't miss-play, cs efficiently and never be afraid to push yourself to maximise the training and knowledge you can gain from every situation so you can do that next time. It is easy to improve from the level you are at and you should be able to. You can carry 90% of the games in your division and you aren't because after all that time, you're still making stupid mistakes and playing like a silver but you don't see it.
: Looking for a challenger player to teach me (ADC) how to get 80% win rate in low elo solo queue
> This will not be a paid coaching position as I am already pretty skeptical of the possibility based on my experience with the game (5300 ranked games) and based on what I have seen from coaching videos and unranked to diamond videos. I am easy to teach as long as there are no logical flaws in the information I am being given. You will not find challenger level coaching for free, I've tried. Your problem is you are not necessarily ignorant, but you go completely against meta and things that are used for a reason because you believe your way is better (I'd assume) and that is one of the reasons you're silver IV with that many ranked games. You seem to be the recipient of the 'Dunning-Kruger effect' and you probably won't think you are if you're aware of it, which is a lil ironic. Mechanics alone can get you at least Gold. If you play that much you have no reason to be any less if you're physically and mentally capable which I would assume you are. I could get higher division than you are now without a keyboard, you can climb if you try hard enough. To climb, play ADC's like, Ashe, Caitlyn and Twitch (since you have 1 mil mastery on him). Build orthodox, take warlords since it's the best mastery for those ADC's incl Twitch. By god fix your runes and don't use that Ashe rune page, ever. Realise you're not good at all and you have a lot of improving to do, once you surpass that mental block you can finally achieve your goals. Use websites like probuilds (http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Twitch ) Use reddit.com/r/summonerschool Find VoDs of high elo players on YouTube, specifically Chinese/Korean who play more Twitch. Don't tilt or flame, /mute all if necessary. **Important** Question every death and every decision you make and don't be ignorant and blame others, you want to improve. If you do all of this and actually try hard, you would be able to get at least Platinum this season.
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: Depends what ADC i guess. In majority of cases BF sword first is better. Few exceptions like Kalista and Vayne who benefit from the attack speed more than most. Argument for it being good on Twitch too. Zeal 1st is fine if you are already winning lane. But say going back and buying {{item:1042}} {{item:1051}} ... i hate that shit
You go BF every single time (a case can be made for Kalista) You would zeal on Vayne because you want the Statikk Shiv/IE build or a variant of it so you would be maxing q and not overly focusing on high attack speed so having the extra damage from BF is mandatory. If you're going the tank buster w max for whatever reason you wouldn't be going zeal, you'd be going BOTRK/Guinsoos or something since that does the job MUCH better than the crit build. Twitch wants more AD for a stronger contaminate. In most fights the extra attack speed doesnt help you stack much since the W buffs and all too
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Who has the time for that wth lol
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