: Why is Rank so toxic towards new players playing rank
It's not just towards new players it happens to everyone. The game is purely toxic, Riot just have a penalty system that is crap. just mute all and move on
Sesilan (OCE)
: First time in gold? That's average behavior. You'll see that quite alot, it'll seem like nothing gets done but those players do EVENTUALLY get punished, it's just taking the time to finally get those punishments handed out. If you feel that strongly about the two games, why don't you make a definitive switch to one or the other instead of chop-changing between them? You'll find a lot more harmony just sticking to the one game, riding it out until you're at a decent elo (Which won't save you, there's trolls, ints and afks in ALL elos, the higher ones just tend to see it less commonly) and enjoy the game.
and its not going back and forth between games, its I'm playing dota because this community here is stupid toxic and for what ever reason, Riot can't seem to work out how to fix it, they have a honor system, they let players the receive a penalties play ranked straight away. There is so much they can do, with the tools they have implemented to fix this crap, I've played this game for 6 years, I've had 1 account perma-banned for alot less than im witnessing now, and year after year this game gets more toxic, and Riot just don't give a fuck. Unless it complete ruins there number 1 priority of getting money for flashy skins. they don't really give a fuck about their player base
BowWowzer (OCE)
: 100 percent of my last 22 ranked game
I got chat banned earlier in the year for saying foff to my support that was clearly trolling, he was walking circles around lane tower from as soon as we spawned onto the rift, 20 minutes circling that same tower not doing anything, my next chat ban was because I reacted to a top lane who would watch his team fight, then intentionally int. my 3rd chat ban was because I said trolling f, because again I had a support who decided top support the top laner because they were duo bot, neither of those players received a penalty unless they just got chat restriction. Chat punishment is so stupidly strict, people are aware if they dont have their way just troll in game and punish the people on their team that are trying to play the game.
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JLopean (OCE)
: my last 2 games; a troll and 2 afks, and i lose 36 points. how is this considered fair?
riot dont care about anything but money, if they cant make money from it, it isn't on the must do list
Typhon (OCE)
: What is actually being done to players who are abusive?
players being abusive get penalized pretty to well, its the other percentage of players that are trolling griefing in game riot dont give a fuck about
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BowWowzer (OCE)
: Remake update?
https://gyazo.com/17b18501f316e99826ce0b312be36065 connects for 2 seconds disconnects, unable to remake, when he comes back 5 minutes laters he just runs it down mid and spam pings people. But can't remake because he connected once?
: " If people don't leave base or dc for a curtain length of time at the start of the game" There is, commonly too I'll add, that they aren't past loading screen. There's been times that I haven't actually joined into the game till 5-10 minutes because the game just did not want to load for whatever reason. I usually don't get the issue, but it happens, and that's usually whats happened. I'll get in then carry no issue (FEAR THE FISHEH), but there are times its just not a solid DC case.
> [{quoted}](name=Exarch Leona,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=GVXYJ1ph,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-11T05:35:45.966+0000) > > " If people don't leave base or dc for a curtain length of time at the start of the game" > There is, commonly too I'll add, that they aren't past loading screen. > > There's been times that I haven't actually joined into the game till 5-10 minutes because the game just did not want to load for whatever reason. > I usually don't get the issue, but it happens, and that's usually whats happened. > I'll get in then carry no issue (FEAR THE FISHEH), but there are times its just not a solid DC case. A person I was partied with kept bug splatting on the loading screen, had to wait 15 minutes, a person will briefly connect to the lobby, and instant dc. and still have to wait till 15 because as Riot put it, 'They connected to game'. I dont think there should be any reason if someone is in the fountain for a curtain length before the surrender timers start, that players can start a remake
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kowizzle (OCE)
: Tired of the punishment system
games trash, games toxic as fuck now, you get chat banned for just for saying f***, who cares, just play ranked and don't give a shit about winning just have fun do what you want, nothing will happen to you if you do that, let your team die, you'll be fine, legit I'm a bronze/silver player, i literally climbed to gold fucking around, letting my team die if they did stupid fights. i get flamed, name called, etc game after game, I got chat banned for either saying fuck, or abo about a month ago. yet people can afk, be racist. a dude I used to play with called me a pedophile in game saying i touch little kids and he didn't even get punish, systems fucked
: Consider removing in-game chat
kinda agree, the toxicity levels keep increasing not enough is being done about it
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: That ticket doesn't tell us your questions weren't answered at all. All it says is that the agent believes your questions were answered in a previous ticket and they opted not to repeat themselves. If you want to discuss your interaction with support, I'd recommend posting the ticket the agent mentioned (ideally including your messages as well as their responses). Without those, there's isn't really anything anyone here can actually discuss.
A chain of tickets that date back to the end of last year. I am not going go back through these tickets. When they can't even tell me why I was penalized over singular games, when they repeatably mention that consistent behaviour is the reason I was penalized, and there is chat logs from singular games. They can not give answers to those questions because they have no input to crap that is actually happening in games, they even stated that, there for no reason to have a support page. nor can I post proof of how toxic games are because its against terms. LOOP HOLE
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: Um... Riot? What is going on with Surrender?
Riot don't give a hell about there game unless it its skins, or changing the meta. The systems they use are so out of touch, if it doesn't benefit them they don't care, hence why the community is so toxic, if something is too far out the way of them making money they won't touch it.
: > my situation is that I am **reacting **to someone that is breaking the rules. The problem lie in the way you are reacting. You are doing it all wrong. You know what the rules are, you've signed up for it. Why did you pick the worst possible response, that would land you in the same pit as the guy who is in the wrong? Because just like the other player who is grieving out of spite and being short sighted; You are too, acting out your emotional out burst. > if you want to compare it to IRL scenario, I would be **verbal reacting** to something that is physically causing trouble, the person that is causing physical trouble would have a harsher penalty than the person that stood there running their mouth at them. Let be clear here, there is no corporeal contact from either side. You and him are separate in the physical world. The uniting factor is the two of you are in the same VIRTUAL environment; Where emotions speak the loudest. You were both doing the same thing. Psychological warfare. > That is why you can't compare this to IRL because the game cares about the chat log a heck of a lot more than the physical disruptions in the game. What do you mean by physical disruption in game? As in he is in control of your emotions, by leading you into his ploy through game play? If that is what you meant by "Physical", then you are not only wrong, you are unbelievably wrong. And to reiterate my earlier post. The coding side of the game where things are computer read, and generating the outcome through an algorithm; It is hard to separate grieving players from bad game plays. It take longer for a pattern to appear in the form of reports and consistently **terrible **K.D.A. > Essentially their system is encouraging people to int and troll. Rules are there to punish those who goes against it. Most would comply out of being lawful in nature or fearful of the consequences. Then there are those that don't give a damn about what will happen to them, as long as they can bring pain to the intended victim in that moment. So, how can you stop a person that just DON'T CARE? You cant. They've already decided the hill they will die on. > This chat log that is above I reacted to people feeding and those same people decided to be abusive to myself and other people in the game, as well as calling people crack heads etc, so it is okay for them to be abusive and troll, and all they may have received is a chat ban. but what about the player that Actually int and troll every game. Am not saying you shouldn't vent your frustration. AM TELLING YOU SHOULD DO A BETTER JOB AT IT. Use a bit of complexity in your insults and it will go along way. > If someone came to me and wants to talk crap and do something physical towards me, id just put them on the ground. and yeah you could complain it's as bad as them, but IRL it is self defense, that person would still be punished harder than what I would, there is another reason you can not compare to IRL How hard you put them down is the issue. Not that you choose self defense. Going outside the law is by no means doing it right. As long as you work within the set of rules and be smart about it, you wont be punish by it.
The guy was inting and trolling, before any chat start, the first few of my chat messages, is when he went off chops at me. my point is, I rreacted to someone who was intentionally throwing the game, and this happens everygame (not me losing my cool), and the singular games that I do loose my cool I get punished after one game, the end of last year I intentionally threw 15 games, I screen shotted my match history sent it to sup[port to proove a point, they told me to have a break for the game i wasnt punished
: > This isn't daily life If this situation is not comparable to daily life, then please point out all the possible contradictions. > The system isn't fair, it pick on the people that react negative behavior in chat, not the people that are intentionally inting There are flaws, yes, agreed. But what to do? This is not a simple matter of letting people run their mouth against the intentional feeder to call it even. What we have is by no mean perfect; But it is enough to staunch parts of negativity in the game. There will always be people out there, who will do their best to pull you down the same shit hole they themselves dug. Use your head a little and decide if the venture is worth it.
> [{quoted}](name=TheDemonEmperor,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=Vvhjd7cz,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-27T14:09:33.978+0000) > > If this situation is not comparable to daily life, then please point out all the possible contradictions. > > There are flaws, yes, agreed. But what to do? This is not a simple matter of letting people run their mouth against the intentional feeder to call it even. > > What we have is by no mean perfect; But it is enough to staunch parts of negativity in the game. > > There will always be people out there, who will do their best to pull you down the same shit hole they themselves dug. Use your head a little and decide if the venture is worth it. It isn't comparable to daily life, my situation is that I am reacting to someone that is breaking the rules. convert that to real life. that would be me reacting to someone that is intentionally ruining mine, or someone else experience. if you want to compare it to IRL scenario, I would be verbal reacting to something that is physically causing trouble, the person that is causing physical trouble would have a harsher penalty than the person that stood there running their mouth at them. That is why you can't compare this to IRL because the game cares about the chat log a heck of a lot more than the physical disruptions in the game. I played DOtA when it was at its worst and they managed to help tone down the toxic part of the community, including the people that were trolling in game. LoL on the other hand, we do not see improvements on that side of things. Essentially their system is encouraging people to int and troll. This chat log that is above I reacted to people feeding and those same people decided to be abusive to myself and other people in the game, as well as calling people crack heads etc, so it is okay for them to be abusive and troll, and all they may have received is a chat ban. but what about the player that Actually int and troll every game. If someone came to me and wants to talk crap and do something physical towards me, id just put them on the ground. and yeah you could complain it's as bad as them, but IRL it is self defense, that person would still be punished harder than what I would, there is another reason you can not compare to IRL
: The same logic applied in daily life. Take out your frustration with people in the **wrong way ONCE**, is enough to be punish. The question now is, knowing this is how RIOT function. Do you want to keep playing? Or quit. If you choose to continue: Then either you conform to coexist, or wait for another ban coming your way. If your option is to leave, then you dont have to worry about it.
> [{quoted}](name=TheDemonEmperor,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=Vvhjd7cz,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-25T07:56:50.124+0000) > > The same logic applied in daily life. Take out your frustration with people in the **wrong way ONCE**, is enough to be punish. > > The question now is, knowing this is how RIOT function. Do you want to keep playing? Or quit. > > If you choose to continue: Then either you conform to coexist, or wait for another ban coming your way. If your option is to leave, then you dont have to worry about it. This isn't daily life and they insist that there system is 'fair'. The system isn't fair, it pick on the people that react negative behaviour in chat, not the people that are intentionally inting, or leave the game, hell I had a veigar support who was feeding his tits off, he calls for baron (Bad call, we stayed to long araming mid lane) and because he didn't have his way, he afks in base, and then when he is called out, he goes and farms jungle for the rest of the game. and stuff like this is happening game after game, in rank and in norms. Now i don't care about norms so much, but there is little incentive to play ranked after you loose you honor level. it seems like common sense to actually use the honorsystem as a requirement to play ranked
: I know it's cliche but that's a big part of why I suggest normals. When your MMR stagnates ranked gets that much more frustrating. It feels like you aren't getting anywhere because you aren't. I'm certainly no stranger to it, it happened a lot for me last season. Of course, I'm a bit biased in that I never have and probably never will play solely ranked, but normals take the game to game pressure off and let you practice without the stress of LP loss. I'm no stranger to losing games to tilt and toxicity, I had a string of ranked games not long ago that were just *awful*. I do encourage you to remember though, that just because a player is doing badly doesn't mean they're trolling or doing it on purpose. Tilt is a powerful thing, and it can make otherwise decent players make terrible gameplay decisions. Most of the time, they know what mistakes they have made, and pointing them out or engaging those mistakes will only tilt them more, even when you're just trying to help. Ultimately, you can only control your gameplay and your mindset. You aren't going to change some random internet stranger's mind unless they want it to be changed, and especially not in the span of a game. So influence the odds you can, instead of railing against the ones you can't. Don't misunderstand, I'm not excusing the crap that some people pull in games, just that at the end of the day there isn't anything you can do other than report and move on that will have any real effect.
I know there isn't anything I can do, in game or out of game, but having games that you win, and they aren't rewarding, because someone on the other team either trolled or leaves game, and then when you get the players that do the same thing. You cant upload evidence of such behaviour because of the rules set for the boards, Riot support can't do anything. People can post in forums and just looks like idiots, and it becomes a players word verses Riot. I am continuing to play, however their is something going on, and I feel as though the system is too heavily favored to penalized anyone who uses the chat log, I get thats its the easiest to penalize people, I am confident chat box is that strict now, that people are encouraged to misbehave in games. Whether its that there is too much damage in the game which I see the blame being put on, or not, this is by far one of worst toxic phases I have encountered.
: Your win-rate is basically bang on 50%. Looking at your stats, it seems you've plateaued. It's not that you're versing the matchmaking, it's that your skill is accurately reflected in both your rank and your MMR. In short, you need to focus now on improving rather than winning. You've got solid ADC stats, so maybe take a look at some of your replays, what could you be doing better. Watch a Gold or a Plat ADC mains replays, what are they doing differently from you? Same for JNG since you seem to be playing a fair bit fo that too. Maybe drop into normals for a bit and focus on smaller specific things when the stakes aren't so high. You seem to do pretty well playing from behind death-wise (i.e you aren't feeding just because you're weaker), but your CS is quite low even in your wins. Your warding is great in some games, but low in others etc. You get the idea. Winning lane also isn't everything. Lost lanes, especially when there's scaling hyper carries like Kayle involved, can still be big players later. Lane phase isn't everything. Some things, of course, you can't control. The Ezreal game they had burst on burst, and you had basically no tank cause Graggy was behind and Renekton went full damage, but that alone won't cost you a game. I assume the second image is damage done? You cut off a bit much there. Obviously, the Renekton was a bit of a weak link, but so was their Lucian. When plateaus happen, the game to game becomes less important than the bigger picture.
> When plateaus happen, the game to game becomes less important than the bigger picture. I know I have to focus on CS, which is hard in low elo cause how fast games snowball, most games are over instantly, because people don't know how to play from behind. All season I have dealt with multiple people every lobby playing badly/trolling/inting. I know the obvious stuff like warding and CS has been pretty meh this season. Though it seems, that every game I play everyone on the opposing team is just better and I am getting the bottom of the barrel and it is like that almost every game. https://gyazo.com/ccfbf88c3ffaf8a60cb5c4961a10fa5b this isn't even the worst example, we actually had a chance to win this game without kayle, but 1 person lost their cool with kayle and just ruined the game, and its the same crap every game. It is a team game I get that. but still my games have been bloody poor quality since I was in promos for gold I almost deranked back to s4. thats a little insane
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Lysaaer (OCE)
: Whats your version of trolling/greifing?
> [{quoted}](name=Lysaaer,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=OHQLPEp0,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-01T08:28:46.883+0000) > > Whats your version of trolling/greifing? People that are intentionally ruining the game, whether that is Int'íng, refusing to help the the team do objectives, people that follow the jungle around, supports that have been auto-filled so they just do random crap in game. I am happily deranked, not because people are playing bad, but because people don't want to play the game.
: Riot ARE ignoring it. I've brought it up multiple times with 0 response.
> [{quoted}](name=Exarch Leona,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=OHQLPEp0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-30T11:31:38.289+0000) > > Riot ARE ignoring it. > I've brought it up multiple times with 0 response. I know they are ignoring it, I am just asking strats to play soloQ
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PRODIGY4 (OCE)
: That's the problem imo. the trolls win because the system just puts it down to "a bad game", and usually the players who want to win, and play properly get smashed by the system
> [{quoted}](name=PRODIGY4,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=AwbeKQ4R,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-03-26T08:52:43.828+0000) > > That's the problem imo. the trolls win because the system just puts it down to "a bad game", and usually the players who want to win, and play properly get smashed by the system yeah i just come to terms play a OP champ, for me thats kayle dont leave lane , level 11, 2 items pretty much can carry the game that way.
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OCEshots (OCE)
: when is it gunna change man
just don't react to it, system is favored to penalize anyone that what to use the chat log, people in game will probably not get penalized unless they say something too, besst thing just don't say anything a report them, even though it won't do anything unless they have been intíng for 15 gamers straight
: The different is. If trolling and griefing was as easily detectable as chat log; Then they would also be banned just as swift. > occur when a player is frustrated. This is just a crutch to lean on for every short-tempered players out there. A person can vent their frustration and be smart about it. I flammed players ingame all the times and i know how to keep it within the boundary. That is the different between getting banned, and have your cake and eat it too. Try it.
> [{quoted}](name=TheDemonEmperor,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=Vvhjd7cz,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-03-24T12:17:13.144+0000) > > The different is. If trolling and griefing was as easily detectable as chat log; Then they would also be banned just as swift. exactly the point, the system encourages people to greif and troll in game, I was say getting frustrated is appropriate, but the system is designed for trolling and pretty much everything outside of the chat log to occur, so when 90 percent of my games I play have multiple players that want to troll and grief, yet one chat log ruins me .. logic
: Because a chat log is clear evidence. While trolling and similar cases, is not so transparent. An angry player can just point to the person who is losing and condemn him as a troll. While Ignoring other variables such as, off role player, vsing smurft, take too many risks that didnt pay off, ETC... It is harder to track a trolling player than to punish a chat log, with every words serving as evidence. The player who is trolling need to be a repeated ofender, stacked up multiple reports; Then the system will pick up the partern and punish that player. Unless the people who hand out punishment view the game directly, punishing trolls is harder compare to chat log.
> [{quoted}](name=TheDemonEmperor,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=Vvhjd7cz,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-03-18T08:20:45.216+0000) > > Because a chat log is clear evidence. While trolling and similar cases, is not so transparent. > > An angry player can just point to the person who is losing and condemn him as a troll. While Ignoring other variables such as, off role player, vsing smurft, take too many risks that didnt pay off, ETC... > > It is harder to track a trolling player than to punish a chat log, with every words serving as evidence. > > The player who is trolling need to be a repeated ofender, stacked up multiple reports; Then the system will pick up the partern and punish that player. > > Unless the people who hand out punishment view the game directly, punishing trolls is harder compare to chat log. exactly so why be so strict on the chat box, when trolling is happening a hell of a lot than people abusing the chat box (personal experience). If chat box is that strict Riot is encouraging trolling/griefing to occur when a player is frustrated. I would rather have the chance to mute them abusing chat log, than them abuse game mechanics in such a way it impacts the game negatively.
BowWowzer (OCE)
: Seriously over trolling/griefing
Last time I check muting doesn't mute them intentionally feeding from 1 minutes into the game
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Hawckey (NA)
: bro you're nuts, it is SOOOOO easy to soft int in this game and get away with no consequence, but god forbid you use a meanie feefee word cus riot will slap that ass with its authority of righteousness
> [{quoted}](name=Hawckey,realm=NA,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=cayPmEh5,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2019-03-15T03:25:42.935+0000) > > bro you're nuts, it is SOOOOO easy to soft int in this game and get away with no consequence, but god forbid you use a meanie feefee word cus riot will slap that ass with its authority of righteousness You would be surprised with how much greifing you can get away with. on top of that I got told by a single person in one game last night, to kill myself, go back to f****** kids. bet that guy just only received a chat restriction xD. Yet I loose my cool for one game nothing racial nothing abusive just aggressive chat and I get penalized, but the people trolling and griefing in game won't get penalised any time soon. I am just at the point where I have music in the back ground, and if i get trolling i mute pings, emotes chat and do my own thing. I do strongly agree in game behavior is stupid right now, because people are learning to just int instead of flame
ZealxWest (OCE)
: Who needs to be fired for the Kayle/Morg Changes....
Played a game, had a inting kayle, 0-5 at 12 minutes, no cs. randomly out of the blue starts 3-4 autos and the enemy adc, who was fed got blown the eff up. adc's are useless if the champ is in the game
: RANKED SOLO DUO is trash
Reacting to someone is my own issue, I used semi aggressive text, thats why I got chat banned, I am stating that mechanically throwing, inting etc, is less likely to be punished. I was told by support staff that consistent bad behavior is what get pinged when. I said kys and ff 15. and thatis what got me penalized, that is from one game, that is not consistent behavior. I am not saying I do not deserve it, but that game i had a troll/ intentional feeding mid laner, and inting irelia both case were noticeable. yet they don't receive a punishment. I mess up 1 game I get punished because its chat log
: Your definition of the wrong players will vary from other people even in such a small community as boards. No-one here can get an accurate feel for your behaviour, and whether or not they feel your punishment was deserved, without the reason you were punished (the chat logs).
> [{quoted}](name=Seras Dragon,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=rArdE0KE,comment-id=000100000000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-04T09:56:15.151+0000) > > Your definition of the wrong players will vary from other people even in such a small community as boards. No-one here can get an accurate feel for your behaviour, and whether or not they feel your punishment was deserved, without the reason you were punished (the chat logs). "If you fact check half these people's claims. The chances that out of 10 games they've played, and the majority of those are with trolls and toxic players are SLIM." -TheDemonEmperor easily 3 out of every 5 games I have, atleast 4 players in the lobby are trolling, or intentionally ruining the game. I react to something that it I get punished, yet those players are able to play like that for however many games until they get penalized. seems fair?
Nikki (OCE)
: "why cant i climb gold" "when i get autofilled im just int feeding for fun" I think you answered your own question my friend.
> [{quoted}](name=Nikki,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=d1EV9nYh,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-03T23:33:58.054+0000) > > "why cant i climb gold" > > "when i get autofilled im just int feeding for fun" > > I think you answered your own question my friend. I end up inting, didn't mean I actually int, always getting auto filled jg, noit a roll I have been doing well in lately
: Yall got messed up daaaaaaaaaaamn. Nami not rushing censor though, that hurts.
> [{quoted}](name=Exarch Leona,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=d1EV9nYh,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-03T05:54:26.071+0000) > > Yall got messed up daaaaaaaaaaamn. > Nami not rushing censor though, that hurts. yeah I am having those games every game I am not autofilled, when I get autofilled I just feed and join in on the fun.
Athenelol (OCE)
: I'd rather have the lag of NA than play on OCE rank system. Silver 3 into Gold 1's. Dead game.
they just need to put in an incentive to play ranked whether its honor requirement or something like pay to play. I dunno something has to be done, norms is more competitive
: If you want to discuss a punishment you have received in detail I'd recommending making a post with the chat logs as it's not really relevant to this thread, and without the details of why you were punished (chat logs), all we can do is speculate. Removing toxic players *has* a monetary incentive. Unhappy customers are not paying customers, and certainly not repeat customers.
> [{quoted}](name=Seras Dragon,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=rArdE0KE,comment-id=0001000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-03-03T05:35:00.815+0000) > > If you want to discuss a punishment you have received in detail I'd recommending making a post with the chat logs as it's not really relevant to this thread, and without the details of why you were punished (chat logs), all we can do is speculate. > > Removing toxic players *has* a monetary incentive. Unhappy customers are not paying customers, and certainly not repeat customers. I posted a ticket about it, according to support it was aggressive enough to be considered verbal abuse. I posted that to make the point that the wrong players are getting penalized
: Could believe this, had a mate get a chat ban for telling someone to shush and play instead of talking moreso than playing. Can confirm rito doesnt care.
> [{quoted}](name=Exarch Leona,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=d1EV9nYh,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-03-03T03:57:13.267+0000) > > Could believe this, had a mate get a chat ban for telling someone to shush and play instead of talking moreso than playing. > Can confirm rito doesnt care. Was a great game -_- https://gyazo.com/bc025492f2a5c69bd834a3fe49a4b041
: There are a variety of reasons for having name and shame rules on boards, which I can go into if you really want but which boil down to perspective, subjectivity, privacy, and reform. As for nothing happening for in game toxicity, I've seen 2/3 toxic players I've played with recently face bans (they stopped playing) and the 3rd may well have seen a chat restriction, I wouldn't know. Gameplay punishments can be much slower than anyone would like given the difficulty in verification, but they are issued. Chat punishments are pretty consistent. It's worth noting that just playing badly isn't punishable. Having a thread/comment removed on boards has literally nothing to do with the in game experience, and everything to do with the content that was removed.
> [{quoted}](name=Seras Dragon,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=rArdE0KE,comment-id=00010000000000000001,timestamp=2019-03-02T13:21:57.081+0000) > > There are a variety of reasons for having name and shame rules on boards, which I can go into if you really want but which boil down to perspective, subjectivity, privacy, and reform. > > As for nothing happening for in game toxicity, I've seen 2/3 toxic players I've played with recently face bans (they stopped playing) and the 3rd may well have seen a chat restriction, I wouldn't know. > > Gameplay punishments can be much slower than anyone would like given the difficulty in verification, but they are issued. Chat punishments are pretty consistent. It's worth noting that just playing badly isn't punishable. > > Having a thread/comment removed on boards has literally nothing to do with the in game experience, and everything to do with the content that was removed. I have to disagree, I have two friend that get away with racial and religious discrimination, the I get chat banned today for trying to get a team to work together, I threatened to afk, that is the only thing I seen ban worth, that was in chat log 1 (3 people intentionally fed 10 deaths at 16 minutes each) which was today. Chat log 2 was a argument with another player who called me out, and it was only a I did this what did you do arguement. Yet people can get away with trolling in game because they get auto filled, or their champ gets banned/taken from them. There is no incentive to play Ranked queues 'to win'. I would rather see a toxic chat than people take it out on actual in game mechanics. Match making isn't fair, penalty system is pretty inconsistent. there is things they could be working on, but it doesn't make them $$ so why would they bother
: Gold elo is really hard to climb
Riot won't do anything unless it makes them $$, I got chat banned for trying to get people to play the game, wasn't even being toxic. just getting fed up with people with 10 deaths at 15 minutes into the game
: Then work on those rather than complaining about things that is out of your control. If your ability alone is not enought to make progress, then the answer is a very easy one; Be happy with what you have. Not chasing things that you are not good enough to attain. This is what most of these complaints are. The players are not good enough to climb higher on their skills alone. To make up for this hurtful fact, they would inject every little things they can find to negate it. Guess what? life isnt fair. Not all of us are meant to stand on the same plateau. That is why rank exist. Hierachy is actually a thing in real life. Just accept your short coming and be happy with what you have instead of wanting to be higher and higher. All the while, delude yourself into believing you have the skills, but not the opportunity.
> [{quoted}](name=TheDemonEmperor,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=bKE4Ydcw,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2019-02-27T00:54:25.104+0000) > > Then work on those rather than complaining about things that is out of your control. > > If your ability alone is not enought to make progress, then the answer is a very easy one; Be happy with what you have. Not chasing things that you are not good enough to attain. > > This is what most of these complaints are. The players are not good enough to climb higher on their skills alone. To make up for this hurtful fact, they would inject every little things they can find to negate it. > > Guess what? life isnt fair. Not all of us are meant to stand on the same plateau. That is why rank exist. Hierachy is actually a thing in real life. Just accept your short coming and be happy with what you have instead of wanting to be higher and higher. All the while, delude yourself into believing you have the skills, but not the opportunity. I am stating an actual thing that is happening in the community, that I have noticed alot more in the last 12 months of the game. I don't think you understand where I am coming from, I am not saying I should be a higher rank than what I am, I am stating that the toxicity issue's in the game is bad right now. I am blind I dont expect to even be sitting in gold
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> [{quoted}](name=TheDemonEmperor,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=bKE4Ydcw,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-02-26T12:11:29.233+0000) > > - I know I am not talented, but I know what I need to do to win lane and what I have to do in team fights, personally I need to work on rotations in the mid game, and I really need to work on lane control. behavior mixed with the meta, lobbies are horrible from my personal experience, and It is something that is out of control to individual players, at least from my personal experience. Does not just go for the teams I get put on also goes for the other side
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