OCEshots (OCE)
: So how did everyone go with their season? everyone reach their goals?
Tried to leave silver 1 for 4 weeks, win 1, lose 2, with none of those games being my fault... i think i had 3 bad games which could classify as me being the cause, the rest, an inting laner or jg, an afk or a troll Also as a support main it's literally impossible to climb unless you duo... Then as im about to leave Silver 1 99lp with a free win in promos, i get chat restricted for requesting a report on 3 inting players, one of which was hella toxic
Typhon (OCE)
: criticism or helping?
Criticism - You're shit, you suck at this game. etc. etc. Constructive criticism - You're shit, but here's how not to be shit **Explains Items that need to be purchased for the comp you're into** However, in any elo below plat, constructive criticism is always taken as being toxic, or is just downright ignored I've found saying, hey you need XYZ item to deal with XYZ comp gets nothing but flame, so i've just stopped saying anything, no real point in trying to help the helpless
: The very fucken problem with OCE staff
I just received a chat ban, for referring to a 3 man of trolls/inters as scum and asking the enemy team to report them, riot's response was "due to negativity on this account we will not be reversing this ban under any circumstances", they gave me one chat log, and the most toxic thing in it is referring to a group of trolls as scum... Solid system, so basically if you want to enjoy the game, just troll/int/afk you won't get banned
Beausen (OCE)
: Team recruit.
"looking for higher elo players" "pref high gold" xd
: Dealing with tilt (Help please)
1. Don't play trist, she's a shit adc right now, try jhin or varus, they're relatively easy, and do more damage than trist 2. Take deep breaths when you feel tilt setting in 3. Don't blame your support if you're the one that's shit 4. Listen to music, personally metal, rock, hard rock keep me going even after my team ints 5. Go out for smoko, ie. take a long break, food, shower, glass of water, walk, whatever. just leave the computer for a while 6. if you feel that its just shit teams over and over, take a few days break, then come back, it might not change, but you won't be tilted, since you'll have probably forgotten 7. make sure you don't play when hungry, tired, or angry/sad, play it when your mood is right, and your head's in the right place 8. DO NOT TILT YOUR TEAMATES, IF YOU'RE THE ONE THAT'S TITLTED If all goes to plan, you'll be untilted for as long as necessary, the minute you fell it come back, just stop, leave the screen for a while Duoing/5 manning in a troll comp (in norms obviously) will help too, since you're playing to fuck around, and have fun, it will untilt you pretty quickly Finally, if there are players abusing you or whatever, write their names down on a piece of paper, and if you see them again, just dodge, a cheetah can't change its spots. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
: is it possible to climb ladder as full time support?
No... I've been playing support all season and my win loss in support is 1:2, adc's are too stupid in any elo below plat The only supports you should play to win and climb, are "supports", ie. just APC with a warding item otherwise just play mid/top, supports can't carry
: I have a question.
If you get perma'd you don't get ANYTHING back, sucks to be you spending that much, i was pissed after only spending $500 when i was perma'd Now i can get banned with no fear of losing money, since i see no reason to spend money on a game that i'll lose all the money i have spent on the off occasion i make one slightly toxic remark
: Best Champion To 1 Trick
Work out which champ you enjoy most, meta doesn't mean shit, if you know how to beat the meta with your chosen champ. I climbed bronze to silver 1/gold 5, playing primarily ziggs, mostly in support and mid, he's not considered a good champ, but my highest win rate is on him. Firstly work out the match ups of your chosen champ, using mine as an example, assassins generally shit on him, so i ban away zed or talon since they're point and click to get onto you and can't be displaced while getting on you, fizz and akali are also good against ziggs, but you can W them away and get yourself to safety the same way Secondly, work out who s/he beats, and abuse those match ups, for ziggs, close ranged mages like kassa, Donger, Syndra and Ekko, are easy to abuse since they have to come close to minions to farm them, as for donger, i just displace his turrets, in the same way you get assassins off your ass thirdly, work out his/her mechanics, for ziggs procing short fuse as often as possible when sieging is a neccesity for destroying towers fast, so make sure you have mana for ability spam (archangels every time, ludens if im particularly far ahead), understanding what walls he can jump over with W. Finally work out how to farm safely/zone well with your chosen champ Just knowing your champ is enough to climb, the meta ain't shit if you're skilled at whatever you want to 1 trick
: What do you think of ppl not speaking English?
TBH, im sick of seeing chinese in my games, not because im racist but because they never speak english, and the only things they ever say is AU dog, or OCE trash etc. Now, im fully capable of using google translate, but in a game that requires split second decision making, you can't do that... So, my standpoint is one of two things either: 1. go back to CH/KR/Whatever Server you came from and get off of OCE (Unless you're willing to say more than just spewing insults at the other OCE players) 2. Don't play solo's, make sure you have a premade that speaks your language Alternatively, if you're not gonna do either of these things, at least don't talk, use pings instead
: ADC Tips?
TIp 1. Don't play adc Tip 2. Don't blame your support if you're the one making mistakes Tip 3. Don't whine when you get 1 hit by enemy assassin, you were the silly person who picked adc Tip 4. Learn to last hit Tip 5. Learn Target Focusing (ie, don't hit the fucking tank when a squishy is closer) Tip 6. Learn wave control (freezing/pushing/shoving/slow pushes/etc.)
619 (OCE)
: Trash Talk vs. Toxicity
Well, since my last ban i haven't done anything the same, im still toxic, i just don't use the trigger words, still waiting for riot to grab me over racist comments (mostly directed at the asian community). In my experience the easiest way to get away with trash talking (because its automated and every automated system is beatable if you know what you're doing) is to passive aggressively talk to people. im honor 2 and still the most toxic player in my friends group (and one of us has 4 perma'd accounts) the rule that applies to beating the ai in a game, applies to the automated system, if you know its patterns (ie. the trigger words) you can beat it without a problem, 100% i'll be honor 5 next year, and still be one of the most toxic players on the server, because automated systems don't work, never have never will, and until riot works it out, anyone who knows what they're doing can get away with anything {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
: Gemstones - Is actually worth it?
Meanwhile i've had 0 gemstones, out of 35 crates, and been playing since the stupid gemstone mechanic came out
: A Rant About a Bad Clash Game
Can't have an afk if you're the afk :^) however the easiest way to deal with this, is to make friends, around the rank you are, play with them a while prior to clash, like 5-6 games to get a feel for their WR, champ pool, and mechanical decision making (splitting vs teamfighting etc.) The other way is to look to the boards, most of us (even the lurkers) are often look for people to play with (both inside and outside of clash) alternatively you can try and find friends at your school (maybe a club), uni, or even workplace that play league then play with them fortunately i'm not stuck in your boat, i have 13 players in our clash "group" so we have basically 3 teams (double bonus i know these nerds in real life) If it comes down to it, add me on SkyStorm (since this acc is perma'd because i was a toxic boi) and if our clash teams need spares, we'll send you a message seeing if you want to come play, we're all pretty chil (some of us are tiltlords, mostly they'll just pick some sort of bullshit pick like AS naut or something and have a laugh), even if we can't bring you to clash (maybe we fill our teams) we're still likely to play with you every now and then, play with us enough and you'll probably get inv'd more often when we're short for flex or even draft pick
SuperPPV (NA)
: Does anyone miss the mage items?
How are you only getting to 500ish, i can break 750 with deathcap and 4 other items...
: so do they say it to tilt me
> [{quoted}](name=TheeKingKrispy,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=ENnwHmZ0,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-10-05T04:14:52.777+0000) > > so do they say it to tilt me To tilt you, your team, their own team i do it all the time, but only after a landslide win (like 20 mins, 40 kills, uncontested objectives scenario) i also do it, when i out play 1v3/4/5 or you just send an obligatory question mark
00shots00 (OCE)
: if you get me in games dodge
Noted {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
: Will Odyssey ever come back?
Hope it doesn't, worst mode since Star Guardian Event and Nexus Siege. If i wanted PvE i'd just go play Diablo its about 20x more fun than whatever the fuck this event is and i have control over how the game plays out, instead of having to rely on 4 Trashuo mains to do anything other than be toxic
Nightjar (OCE)
: Lux is a support as much as zyra is a support, although Zyra has better base damage, but Lux has better scaling. Also you generally upgrade to second tier on the support item, before then choosing between an ap item if you're snowballing such as DarkSeal/Mejais or Ludens Echo, or finishing your support item into eye of the watchers if you're behind or haven't yet finished the support questline. The support item is gold efficient for it's stats, and generates more gold, but the ludens/mejais damage can help you snowball better if you plan on getting kills and accelerating through the game. All in all, eye of the watchers is the safest option.
> [{quoted}](name=Nightjar,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=tEdgRw7E,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-09-28T07:52:29.210+0000) > > Lux is a support as much as zyra is a support, although Zyra has better base damage, but Lux has better scaling. > Also you generally upgrade to second tier on the support item, before then choosing between an ap item if you're snowballing such as DarkSeal/Mejais or Ludens Echo, or finishing your support item into eye of the watchers if you're behind or haven't yet finished the support questline. > The support item is gold efficient for it's stats, and generates more gold, but the ludens/mejais damage can help you snowball better if you plan on getting kills and accelerating through the game. > > All in all, eye of the watchers is the safest option. You're wrong about zyra and lux being the same Zyra is only in the bot lane because her mage stats are too shit to mid (unlike lux) (i have a zyra otp friend and he's plat 1/dia 5 and refuses to play her mid because literally every mage and assassin can out damage her in mid lane, with over 2mil mastery i'm more likely to listen to him than some rando who probably doesn't even play zyra) The minute zyra gets a buff, anybody who plays her will 100% go back to mid where she belongs, her and lux are only alike in the fact that they have high early damage. As for your comment on itemisation, this is where you're right, i mean it doesn't matter who you play support, you must always rush that supp item, the wards and gold generation are too important to pass up, as for accelerating the game, lux can do that just as well in mid as she can in support, i still see no reason to play her support unless you have no idea how to farm, and if you can't farm on lux, you probably shouldn't even be playing her to begin with imo Mejais/Seal is good, but its very risk = reward, if you go this route you better know how to dodge skill shots, avoid dying in fights, whilst still pumping out the damage if you can't farm as lux, how the hell can you be expected to do all these extra things on top of that. Personally, if you're gonna go AP lux support, i would suggest: * Eye of Watchers {{item:3092}} * Tear (Seraphs) {{item:3070}} {{item:3040}} * Boots (Ionian or Sorcerers, again base it on matchup) {{item:3173}} {{item:3020}} * Rylais (for non-committal cc on top of your already massive cc lockdown) {{item:3116}} * 3rd/4th item (depending on matchup) - as a Zhonyas, Banshees or Liandries (Only if you're really ahead, otherwise go with one of the other two, this in turn stacks with rylais which gives you more DoT) {{item:3157}} {{item:3102}} {{item:3151}} * Void Staff {{item:3135}} * End with a Deathcap (if you're winning hard you can get it before void staff) {{item:3089}} If you want to play her support (Proper Support) i'd suggest: * Eye of the Ascended {{item:3069}} * Redemption or Ardent (you can get both, but to save item slots it'd be better to take one over the other, much like above pick based on matchup) {{item:3107}} {{item:3504}} * Boots (Ionian is a must) {{item:3173}} * Rylais (like before, non-committal cc) {{item:3116}} * Zekes or Shurelyas {{item:3050}} {{item:2065}} (Again, Matchup based, if you're getting harassed a lot Zekes gives you a little bit of tankyness, and in turn you and your adc get a particle effect, which gives the adc a brief red buff and you a slow, if not, you can go Shurelyas to move fast for an easier engage especially if your tank is a pleb or you don't have one, and gain mana regen and cdr) * Finish with a Deathcap {{item:3089}}
kickthepj (OCE)
: Does lux build eye of the watchers first or ap when supporting?
Lux supp xd Firstly, if you intend on playing her supp, RUSH SUPPORT ITEM, it doesn't matter who you play, you must always rush the support item Secondly, Lux isn't a support, so stop playing her there go to mid lane where she belongs
: He's perfectly fine as it stands. I've seen many of them win the lane, he just requires a lot of skill.
> [{quoted}](name=BearGrillz34,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=cpf3zEAG,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-09-27T07:27:55.127+0000) > > He's perfectly fine as it stands. I've seen many of them win the lane, he just requires a lot of skill. Mao requires skill??? what??? Press W, Drop Q to knock them back, press R to root them, Drop E for minimal damage (unless bush) that is the lowest skill cap for any tank there is And if you read the post, what i said is he needs a trading buff, not a pushing buff, i'm yet to lose lane on Mao, so im well aware, what i want is to be able to do more in the early stages of the game, the late game is fine, i mean he literally becomes unkillable even in a 5v1
Rioter Comments
: One game banned
RIP the 'YOU PLAYED LIKE SHIT REPORT' It used to exist in the old client, although i can't remember the actual report, it was mostly just a report to let off steam, i severely doubt it ever actually banned anyone As for your predicament, like Seras said its not impossible, but if say all 4 people on your team reported you for intentional feeding that would probably trigger the system to ban you (since its basically a tyrant, even the slightest, 'did something wrong" gets you banned these days) also 5/14 is really bad, and could be classified as Intentional feeding, since even people who int, generally don't do that bad (except Yasuo players) The amount of games i've purposefully inted (mostly out of spite) haven't even gone that high and i know i've been reported many times, the system hasn't caught me yet (not to say the system doesn't have me on its radar, my perma, and repeated chat bans would be enough for it to want to ban me again) But as Seras has stated, its just best to send a ticket to riot, have them give you a blanket response and then do nothing about it (this is generally what happens) guess you're stuck for a while, just use an alternate account, honor doesn't mean much anyways so don't worry 'bout it
Nightjar (OCE)
: When your teams asks you to AFK
I don't afk in the sense of leaving the game, i just split push (even if i'm not on a champ that should split) until the game ends, either i win while my team ints while i'm free taking objectives, or i lose, because my team ints and i don't care enough about toxic people to bother helping them Can't get banned if you do nothing wrong Personally if they say afk, i think you should but not from the game, rather just from the team, just farm jg or split push side lanes (just make sure you're warding enough so you don't also int) or Frag where you can (out of position adc etc.)
bxssman (OCE)
: 14 Day Suspension/Rewards
If you've been banned, you don't get end of season rewards for that year (whether or not that has changed with the new honor system, i have no idea) and based on my ban from last year, when the pre-season/new season rolls through, your honor (if below 2) doesn't get reset, took me nearly a year to get back to honor 2 (banned September last year - returned to honor 2 August this year) The ban doesn't stop you from getting crates or capsules (leveling) you just don't get key frags for the duration (except when you honor up above honor 1) The easiest thing to do, is just not get banned at all, or be passive aggressive, the system is so dumb it can't detect anything other than the trigger words, so abuse it at your own risk Muting generally works, at least to stop people getting under your skin with their words anyways
lordsky (OCE)
: Players autolocking in Ranked
When did Ranked return to blind pick O.o? I haven't seen a i go x lane excuse since season 4 or 5 No its not punishable, since riot don't give two shits about what happens in pre/post game just dodge out, -3lp and a 5 min wait is better than -20lp and 30 mins of wasted time and you can't really instalock, you hover that champ everyone knows you're gonna play it.
: passive trolling anjd why isnt it being dealt with
: passive trolling anjd why isnt it being dealt with
You know you don't "build" sight stone, you just get it, and how do you know they didn't use it, check their vision score, if its low as shit then you're correct if its high, you're just a another toxic player who hates on supports with no substantial reasoning
PandaazAP (OCE)
: Is this really "toxic"?
Spastic is a trigger word, and so is threatening to troll, in the systems logic you were toxic Honestly, just work around it, be passive aggressive, the system can't pick up shit, how do you beat an automated system, you work out how to get around it, it works in every game (both punishment systems and AI), and even the IFS is easy to work around once you work out how and what words trigger the instaban
: 16'49'' pass the Odyssey Onslaught
My group did it in 12'32'', 2 malphites (one MR, one AR) 2x Sona's (both healer) 1x jinx fuck 3rd form kayn though, we got wiped 5 attempts in a row
: just lost 4 games in a row because i had the exact same support in every game who just afk'd
If you saw him/her 4 games in a row, why did you not just dodge, -3lp is better than -27lp
: How Does everyone relax during a loss in a ranked game or promos :)
Depending on time (i generally play at night) - Shower - Dinner - Alcohol (in small amounts) - Waste time trolling in blind pick - Go play a different game In promos however, i just straight up stop for the night, its not worth letting even the tiniest bit of tilt affect you in promos, better to come back fresh faced
Folk (OCE)
: Tickets don't help. Permanent means permanent.
I mean, its also in the ToS last time i checked, that after showing reform riot would consider your account for unbanning (ie, T1, carnation etc.) howver they only needed 2 years, because they gave riot free advertising, by playing constantly, im pretty sure after 5 years of no bans, and proved reform the account can be regained via ticket or at least that was my intention as of my perma last year, now idrc, this game is dead af, i play for first win, or when friends are online Tencent fucked this game royally, with their pay-to-win attitude towards skins, champs and the essence system
Quinncest (OCE)
: Why are casters still considered support champions?
As someone who regularly plays pretty much every champion as support i can explain a little bit. Mages go support partially because adc's are bad and there's no point relying on an ADC if they're just gonna int, the other side of that coin is the match up. For example: Enemy picks Thresh/Lucian bot lane - both are close ranged, and both are susceptible to AoE poke My team picks Vayne ADC (because silver elo) so i go Ziggs support (something i'm very good at both supp and mid, even top if the match up works out) knowing how hard it will be for Vayne to get close to those two, i start poking them down, by 2 mins i've gotten them to half-health and we're level 3, whilst they're level 2, we go balls deep, we burn their double summs and even kill the escapeless thresh getting FB and access to the tower, with this one decent fight, we get first brick too, and thus snowball uncontrollably. This literally was caused by picking a mage, not because the Vayne knows how to play (in the game this is based off, this Vayne did nothing but flame me even though i gave her first blood, and ofc i got first brick, we ended the game in 25 mins with 25 kills to our name, just in the bot lane alone, i think total kills for the game were 45:23, inting top laner OP and needless to say, the Vayne flamed me for at least 23 out of those 25 mins) This same situation seems to apply for all mages, and 9/10 times the mage that is support is not classified as a mid laner anymore (due to nerfs or even just a meta shift) **GLARES at Brand** if the idea is to get mages out of bot and return to enchanter/tank supports, all riot needs to do is nerf the assassin meta down, and buff the supports that are actual supports, however given riot's preference over skins than game balancing the chances of that happening are slim to none, so you're stuck with them until riot realises they've fucked up. Hopefully this sheds some light on the question {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
: Summoner Level
No, you just play a whole lot of AI games, you actually get more xp from coop than you do from norms/ranked
JetRam (OCE)
: Banned Toxic Chinese players are coming to OCE and ruining the game
GET THEM OFF OUR SERVER RIOT This is the 5th maybe even 6th post in two years talking about this problem, its time you act, region lock this server to AU/NZ/Pacific islands
: You complain about wards not being bought but I bet you don't have 3 pinks in your inventory every single time you back. I probably go through 15+ pinks a game, I'm constantly moving them pending the composition of the enemy team (eg, do they have flanking champions etc). If we are sieging I'll drop pinks, if we move from the siege to baron/rift/dragon I'l l drop a pink. I'll waste a pink in a bush just to stall the enemy team while they clear it. If you are simply warding the 2 bushes in lane you aren't playing correctly. You need to be pressuring your lane and warding inside the enemy jungle. If you ward the only 2 entrances to the jungle and pink the tri, there is only 1 viable path for the jungler to gank without being seen and that's straight down the lane. The jungle wards also show your team the current location of the jungler. A support is "meant" to buy whatever items are going to help the team win. People need to stop with this mentality that a support is only there as the teams little bitch. I played a game just yesterday and we absolutely dumpstered the bot lane. So what, I'm not going to waste my gold on an ardent (I'm a Janna main), I'm going to amplify the snowball so that _**I**_ am part of the snowball. So I rushed a seal into sorcery boots into twin shadows. I literally solo ganked the midlane while the enemy ADC was pushing and killed them 1v1. You think I could do that if I just built the items I'm "meant" to build. Hell no. I build according to each game. If we really need that big team fight presence you know I'll be rushing redemption, got a jax that's 10/0 and is likely your teams carry, you know I'll go either Mikaels/Athenes or Ardent/Athenes because I look and I recognise the win condition and I build accordingly. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with building damage on a support. You should be always on the lookout for rotations. There is not a rule written anywhere that says you have to stay in your lane. If I have a potato ADC I will literally abandon the lane and roam with the jungler ganking lanes. I'm here to win and if my ADC isn't stepping up to the plate, I'm not hanging with that dead weight.
> [{quoted}](name=Lemon Chicken,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=7upffPhI,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-08-29T23:13:47.870+0000) > > > There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with building damage on a support. > PREACH IT
Socon (OCE)
: Did no one notice this about supports?
1. So do i, there is no incentive to buying damage, unless you're pyke in which its priority because of his kit, i play mages, enchanters and tanks all as supports i even play off meta shit like MF, Kayn, Darius etc, support is deemed by your ability to crowd control and your ability to put your adc ahead items are not part of this (unless you go non-committals like rylais, IBG, etc.) does it matter if the brand builds ap but still ends up with a lower kill count because s/he knows how to let the adc last hit, its on the adc to work with the support, but if your adc is garbage as is the case in low-mid elo, its better to go a secondary carry on the chance that you may not HAVE to carry 2. Enchanters don't sit back, are you ok? enchanters like lulu, like janna are there to keep the adc safe whilst also poking/disengaging the opponents 3. No, i've been playing league since season 3, a sole support main since mid-late season 4, at no point has the cost of support items incentivised the purchase of damage items, the only reason mages exist in bot, is because riot nerfed them in the mid lane making them glorified supports, i still build things like redemption on mage supports even on tanks if the game needs it, and still end with better KP than most other people in my rank atm according to stats everything (excluding damage per minute) is on par with that of plat/dia players, my warding is that of challenger, im a silver 1/gold 5, its not a case of damge vs tanks its a case of you can't play them mid coz they're too shit, may as well take them bot so they can get a helping hand, the minute riot reverts the nerfs mages will leave bot and go back to mid/top lane 4. i wasn't referring to lcs [snip], i was refering to an average game, in lcs games barely last 25 mins if you're lucky, but in solo queue these games can go from 15 mins up to 75 mins+ allowing for full build 5. at what point is this an argument about bad players, it was a comment on the state of playing support, you sometimes have to swap items and that makes the role more expensive since sell value is 3/4 of its orignal price (i think, math was never my strong point) 6. if solo queue is the problem, don't play it, or alternatively find another role, utility mid is basically support just with carry potential. the likes of Oriana, Ziggs, even Brand or Syndra if they're not banned away
Socon (OCE)
: Did no one notice this about supports?
1. If you haven't read/played/watched any support games, you wouldn't understand, however if you have then you'd know that at the early stage of the game (ie. pre 10 mins) trinkets are the only support item you can afford, in past seasons you could get sightstone first back 2. If you look now, supports get supp item and 2 pots, that's it they have less sustain in lane, and are easily bullied out 3. Supports items are fucking expensive, if you build right and you're in an average game where you get 10 or less assists in laning, and 10 more throughout the game (THIS IS AN AVERAGE GAME, KILLS/ASSISTS ARE NOT EVERYTHING, SOME GAMES HAVE MORE OTHERS HAVE LESS) 4. In order of moments you hit 6 items, the roles of adc and support are generally last to hit full build (unless they have a good game) 5. support items also require you to pay attention to your opponents, your team and yourself, making it harder to itemise appropriately (in low elo anyways). Meaning you could get halfway through a game realise that one of your items in underused and the stats don't seem to be making a difference so you sell and replace, making it arguably more expensive to play the role 6. this is your second post hating on supports, needless to say you must be the typical player that blames supports for everything that goes wrong if its such a problem role, go play top lane, where you're not really required for the team and can just afk farm
Socon (OCE)
: The support role.
Well it's not the support role that's the problem, it's the player and there's nothing you can do about that except flame them, or surrender early on, or feed with them sooner the game ends the better
Thefast (OCE)
: What is the Best emote Bm combination
Does Not compute when you get first blood Does Not compute when you win Does not compute when your enemy wastes summs Everything is fine when you Ace Everything is fine when in place of where you would say "Not even close bby" D'pengu regardless of situation, but mostly when you outplay Clean when your opponent fucks up in some way BM away my friend, just don't get tilted when you cop the same {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
wildcarde (OCE)
One trick = One champ, if you main two, you are not a one trick As for the actual post, heres why you got no S 1. 200cs in 40 mins is atrocious, i've put this on anothers post about a similar scenario, As a farming champ it is expected that you get 100 cs per 10 mins (roughly) 2. 34/10/6 - Your kda means less than your cs, CS is priority if you want an S. Now without knowing the full extent of the kills in that game, assuming there were 60+ (which is average) you would be in about 65-70%, thats not great especially as an ADC, although yes high kills is expected (especially on that cancerous champ) assists count too, all this shot shows me is the likeliness that you last hit everyone's kills 3. Defeat - when you lose, your ranking is reduced substantially, i've had mass kdas and great cs on Mage mids, and with a loss only got an A+, if you want an S, in the wise words of Freljords most wholesome man {{champion:201}} "Don't Lose"
Socon (OCE)
: The support role.
As a traditional support main i disagree. I used to main thresh support (325k before perma) and with mages coming to bot, it made me have to give up the one champ i enjoyed above all others, but with that came a large learning curve that taught me to play literally every support, and currently (according to the stats tab) my support skills are equal to that of a diamond player (i'm currently silver/gold). the rest of my skills are about as silver as they come. my most played supports now include Nami, Taric, Thresh (since the meta is kinda shifting his way again), Ziggs, Brand, MF (yes, ap/cleaver MF is still fucking stupid and it makes enemies RQ equaling an easy win) Braum, Leona, and Sona. I went from one tricking (with nami/janna on the side) to playing every support if anything this meta has made bot lane more fun than it was back in early season 4 (the glory days of support). Yes poke mages are annoying, but they all have one very obvious weakness, they're ALL IMMOBILE, meaning Alistar, Leona, Thresh (to a point), Taric, and Braum all have the chance to outshine mages you just gotta learn how to not get hit by skillshots in the early stages of the game when you're weaker resistance and health wise. From what i've learned roles are a game of Rock, Paper, Scissors. Hard Engage > Poke Poke > Healers and Shielders Healer and Shielders > Hard Engage if you learn the matchup, the game becomes far easier, because you know when you're strong and when you're weak Edit: I Forgot to Mention buffs In this area you are partially correct i would love to see thresh's five walls do damage again, i'd love to see leona able to level 2 dive potless and 3/4HP without struggling, however due the fact everyone hated tank meta, these buffs are unlikely. This in turn means, you need to know your stats 1. How much damage you can take - Practice and Experience 2. How much damage you can do - Practice and Experience 3. How useful/useless your adc is - Observing their playstyle 4. The levels of each player involved in a skirmish - Use your eyes, its not that hard 5. The Mana/Health levels of all involved in the skirmish - Use your eyes, its not that hard 6. Where the junglers are - USE YOUR EYES AND WARD 7. The base stats of at least your champion and your worst/best matchups - You can find this info online
Mokage (OCE)
: So i should be having around 400 CS!?!?
> [{quoted}](name=Mokage,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=jEZGYJEf,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-08-25T10:24:06.690+0000) > > So i should be having around 400 CS!?!? Roughly yes, im sure 325+ would be enough with a kda like that
Mokage (OCE)
: It seems impossible to get an S with Wukong.
40 mins 200cs???? you should have a min 100cs per 10 mins, thats why you didn't get an S bro. KDA also has less impact on your score than you think it does CS is literally how you get an S
LimeKing (OCE)
: Thanks DarkShade918 that is legit the most helpful thing anyone has ever told. I'm gonna start playing Amumu like a depressed meat shield with no damage. But I still think he needs at least a visual rework, only because he doesn't even look like much of a tank. Thanks bro.
> [{quoted}](name=LimeKing,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=2Rzrj1ZI,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-08-25T02:16:52.132+0000) > >But I still think he needs at least a visual rework, only because he doesn't even look like much of a tank. > Clearly you didn't read the 5th point HE ALREADY GOT ONE HE WON'T BE GETTING A NEW ONE FOR A WHILE
LimeKing (OCE)
: Amumu Rework!!!
1. Amu is not designed to 1v1, he is a tank and a team fighter, if you're 1v1ing with him you lack intelligence (Unless you go full ap ofc) 2. If you miss Q, so be it, same as with lee miss Q go back to farming repeat, you should't even be missing Q, since its hitbox is way larger than it looks 3. E isn't for fighting, its for farming jg, since it reduces incoming damage and loses cooldown the more you get hit 4. his W is not supposed to do damage, its there to reset his curse passive 5. He was visually upgraded not to long ago (last season i think) so he won't be getting another one for a while 6. he doesn't need a rework his kit is fine for his duty, he is there to tank and CC thats it, he's not there for damage, he's not there to carry, he's there to be a literally mummy meat shield
Sp4nk M3 (OCE)
: Lets talk about riots backwards banning system
I have 3 players on a watch list from my last 12 games, who are yet to be banned (used post-game report and support tickets) 3 weeks and counting, in and even after saying "KYS" and "get cancer and die". But my alt account gets name banned (fixed now thank god) because KYS is in my username (SkyStorm) so its clear riot don't actually do all that much about it, since they're still playing and still trolling/inting and based on the game my friends shared with one of them still toxic too its just better to mute and move on, its clear the system doesn't work but rather supports those who are toxic over those defending themselves. Submit a report then keep watch on op.gg to see if they're still playing.
Iosua Bot (OCE)
: How many
Have been below honour 2 since March, i only just got back to honour 1.3. So if you let that sink in: * i play roughly 3-10 matches a day (sometimes more) * i'm rarely if ever toxic nowadays * Its now August/September, so 5-6 Months and im not even honour 2 yet, if you're intention is to get back to high honour, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT, you're screwed until at least next year Edit: I receive anywhere between 1-3 non-premade honours per game, and 1-2 premade honours when i play with my mates, so given that i've had such a long time below the honor line, based on all these digits, i reckon its about 2-5k honours to get from honour 0-2
: Nice theory, but Nocturne is a Demon - an anomaly created as a consequence of the reckless use of World Runes in the Rune War.
> [{quoted}](name=DarkSoul1994,realm=OCE,application-id=wJE2nAgV,discussion-id=NsQkFUfQ,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-08-20T23:28:35.474+0000) > > Nice theory, but Nocturne is a Demon - an anomaly created as a consequence of the reckless use of World Runes in the Rune War. Originally, Ezreal created him after continuous nightmares in an attempt to cure them, however it went wrong and Noc was released on the world (the very original Noc lore) he technically wasn't even classified as a demon then rather a realised form of literal nightmares
Hejibeji (OCE)
: Doesnt that make u play worst?
> [{quoted}](name=Hejibeji,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=J41hqqHY,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-08-19T06:27:06.417+0000) > > Doesnt that make u play worst? Makes me play better, and calms my nerves so i can 1v5 as illaoi no problems :^)
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