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: The way you're saying it, it'll just stir up the players even more, not fix the problem lol Telling someone not to talk shit is pretty much asking them to talk shit
> [{quoted}](name=Kronin,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=wrPdRPQ0,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-21T11:19:44.771+0000) > > The way you're saying it, it'll just stir up the players even more, not fix the problem lol > > Telling someone not to talk shit is pretty much asking them to talk shit I'm planting a seed of thought and self reflection, If your not this type of person you have nothing to worry about. most people who get offended by topics like this. generally have something to hide, or are ashamed of. If they continue on their course of action they will just end up punished for it. but again. that's on themselves, not anyone else. When you make someone aware that their behaviour isnt okay, it makes them think about their actions. > Telling someone not to talk shit is pretty much asking them to talk shit I guess the old saying would apply If someone told you to jump off a bridge, would you do it?
: > [{quoted}](name=Detsuahxe,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=wrPdRPQ0,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-21T09:12:48.541+0000) > > **Cant say anything nice to other players?, Don't say anything at all!** > > **Simple really > ** my point exactly ... lumping EVERYONE that has that badge with the people who misbehave is not producing any good results, at all ... btw, the people that exhibit the behaviour you are describing, as a rule, do not read the forum and even if they do, do you really think that they will change their rotten behaviour because someone wrote them to do so .?. highly unlikely ...
> [{quoted}](name=Skouriasmenos,realm=EUW,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=wrPdRPQ0,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-21T10:37:03.209+0000) > btw, the people that exhibit the behaviour you are describing, as a rule, do not read the forum and even if they do, do you really think that they will change their rotten behaviour because someone wrote them to do so .?. > > highly unlikely ... Very likely. If anything, the boards, Reddit and other Social platforms have affirmed it can shape behaviour and even change the mindset of other people and even riot itself. (business platforms and how they interact with its consumer base) Social Networking is a powerful recourse. and is one of the main reasons why something will become popular or is condemned. If it becomes condemned in social media, most will behave like sheep and change their mindset or at least think differently or reflect upon themselves.
: > [{quoted}](name=Eimer Troll,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=wrPdRPQ0,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-10-21T08:57:39.743+0000) > > This threads not toxic though. telling people to shut up just because they have the "team badge" is not exactly good behaviour ...
> [{quoted}](name=Skouriasmenos,realm=EUW,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=wrPdRPQ0,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-21T09:03:33.761+0000) > > telling people to shut up just because they have the "team badge" is not exactly good behaviour ... Didnt say shut-up. i said dont talk shit to other players. Examples: Dont be toxic Dont be passive agressive Dont expect to be carried for nothing and feed Dont tell others to kill themselves. Dont tell others they should uninstall Dont tell others they gave you cancer Don't say any of those comments when your 0/5/0 and only at your elo because you were carried. Those a fine examples of "talking shit" Most of the players I've come across who exhibit these behaviours mostly have this badge. Ironicly. they are also the main reason matches are lost in the first place. **Cant say anything nice to other players?, Don't say anything at all!** **Simple really **
: which is why they are being removed, to avoid toxic threads like this one ...
> [{quoted}](name=Skouriasmenos,realm=EUW,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=wrPdRPQ0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-10-21T08:56:46.851+0000) > > which is why they are being removed, to avoid toxic threads like this one ... No, riot realised the system they had didn't work. and the entire season was a write-off it was unfair and broken in many aspects. and most people who have this badge, in game are quite toxic or passive aggressive. Don't like this thread, Feel free to not post in it and leave your choice, not mine. Peace
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: So first off, these aren't exact terms, honestly i hear Smurf and Alt interchanged extremely often, as they both are regarded as the same thing. This said anyone that plays games to deliberately lose and get a lower ELO are punishable, where even pros had to change the name of their shit from "Bronze to ELO" to "Unranked to ELO", the reason being there is no logical reason these people get into bronze, whether the name is accurate or not. There are really 2 subjects to tackle in this post though, the first being boosting, the second being accounts made to do stompings. Number 1, is simply tackled by riot actually pulling their finger out, and finding these accounts, it's not like they are hard to find, people with 50% win rates suddenly having 80%+ win rates on 2 or 3 champs that they never played before, these are clear cases of boosting but riot don't actually care to tackle this, and i've ran into so many boosted accounts along with accounts being boosted, they are always blatantly obvious, in and out of game (9/10 times you can tell in loading screen if you OP.GG someone). Number 2, is somewhat the same, in that a lot of these accounts are bought, as that means it's easy to get them straight into bronze to use, and are blatantly obvious, and easy to take care of (stop botting etc. and you can get rid of a lot of this issue.) this would drop the % of these accounts down significantly while also dealing with boosting at the same time. Thing is, riot don't care to actually stop this, but just seem like they are stopping these behaviours.
>This said anyone that plays games to deliberately lose and get a lower ELO are punishable, But losing games, than stomping for a similar amount isn't reportable. its considered "having a bad day" >Thing is, riot don't care to actually stop this, but just seem like they are stopping these behaviours. While i agree with this mostly, its also a community thing as well. We as a community need to not condone this sort of behaviour. Why do people want a free ride in ranked? Isn't the point of it to improve and learn? Why is it cool to stomp people in a game? Why is it considered uncool to try-hard? and upon wanting to being labelled as a "no friends tryhard"? We need to improve as a community. in conjunction with riot helping sadly i feel abandoned by both.
: Short of face recognition software when you log on, i fail to see how you're going to stop someone from having multiple accounts? This account isn't my main account (which means i own multiple accounts) and i created this account with one of the mean reasons being to 'play with friends' which i did until lvl 10 or so when i felt my friend was capable enough to handle playing with me on my main account, so i switched back to that. So its hardly a 'masquerade'. I agree that challenger people shouldnt play with bronze, but short of saying "youll be banned if you play with friends" and having facial recognition software i fail to see how you'd stop it.
>Short of face recognition software when you log on, i fail to see how you're going to stop someone from having multiple accounts? Just want to start by saying i dont disapprove of "alt" accounts. As i said they have a purpose. >This account isn't my main account (which means i own multiple accounts) and i created this account with one of the mean reasons being to 'play with friends' which i did until lvl 10 or so when i felt my friend was capable enough to handle playing with me on my main account, so i switched back to that. So its hardly a 'masquerade'. You were playing norms, tutorials and co vs AI. - You main objective was to show your friends how to play the game, After which it appears you have turned it into a forum poster. Majority of the problems occur SUB LVL-30 and Ranked games in Bronze/Silver and low gold elo.
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