Ninox (OCE)
: Hey mate, Assuming you haven't left anything out and nothing has been edited (I don't have any particularly reason to believe you may have other than people do it all the time and this is a disclaimer because I can't make any guarantees), then that would lead me to suspect there is something more here that is being missed. I'm going to pass this one on to someone who can take a deeper look, but please bear in mind that this is not at all a fast process. It is, in fact, a very slow way of doing things (which is why we only do it for special cases).
> [{quoted}](name=Seras Dragon,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=cjP84mgE,comment-id=000000000000000000010000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-12-02T09:07:59.764+0000) > > Hey mate, > > Assuming you haven't left anything out and nothing has been edited (I don't have any particularly reason to believe you may have other than people do it all the time and this is a disclaimer because I can't make any guarantees), then that would lead me to suspect there is something more here that is being missed. > > I'm going to pass this one on to someone who can take a deeper look, but please bear in mind that this is not at all a fast process. It is, in fact, a very slow way of doing things (which is why we only do it for special cases). Please do. Going by the reply I got they dont care about this. I am ban. Simple and no one is going to lift it. Fair or not. To quote what I got told. Hi again, It's me, Rift Empress, from the start of this ticket. This is your chat log from that game: Pre-Game Chat No Pre-Game Chat In-Game Chat [All] GamexOver (Warwick): FYI the dragon GamexOver (Warwick): Said the player who said to me kys GamexOver (Warwick): Ironic af GamexOver (Warwick): Lol GamexOver (Warwick): Sure [All] GamexOver (Warwick): GGWP [All] GamexOver (Warwick): please report adc very toxic. Told me to kys [All] GamexOver (Warwick): Thank you [All] GamexOver (Warwick): Fun game. Post-Game Chat No Post-Game Chat As already mentioned, we can only provide you with that you said in that game due to Privacy Concerns and Regulations. Please be advised that the suspension is valid and it will not be removed. Since we have exhausted all ways of explaining this, any further inquiries on this particular topic will be left unanswered and (all) future tickets closed without a proper answer. Thank you for your time! This means no matter what if I open another ticket. If I reply to the ticket... Anything. No one is going to reply or even help with the ban. MY ISSUE is really.... THE FACT OF NO PRE-GAME CHAT. So I cannot ever prove I was or wasn't. Going by the same support memeber. To me this is a complete failure on Riot side. In fact you can go 100% tilt in before and after telling everyone to kys... Riot wont care. Do in game on the other hand. Complete failure.
: > Which means I have told them here. In the ticket. TO CHECK THE BEFORE GAME CHAT. LOBBY CHAT. Champion selection chat. I dont know what the chat is else called. Party matched lobby chat? Matched game lobby chat. There's three states of game: 1. Pre-Game (before the game starts/during champion select) 2. In-Game (during the game) 3. Post-Game (after the game)
> [{quoted}](name=GreenAbsinthe,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=cjP84mgE,comment-id=0000000000000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-30T06:20:16.728+0000) > > There's three states of game: > 1. Pre-Game (before the game starts/during champion select) Yeah. That is what they havent checked or cannot. From my understanding. They have " Pre-Game (before the game starts/during champion select) " and " Post-Game (after the game) " log. But no one has checked either. They just claim it was never said. But once check and you will see a player tilted because of a chat filter. I use it because you cannot get mad about someone saying ***. Sure if you take the time to really think about it you can work it out. But most rage comes from the split second reaction. So I take out the slpit second and just go on.
Ninox (OCE)
: So just to be clear on the timeline, you submitted your ticket, got a response from Blitzbot, replied, got a response saying it would be transferred to the PB team, then got the "no matter how you try to sugarcoat it" response? They seem a bit out of order to me is why I ask. If that's the order you received them, possibly that third response was written before the ticket was escalated and so didn't have the full context it should have. The PB team is smaller so they usually take a bit longer to reply than that, and would generally go much more in-depth. I'd probably wait a day or so and see if you get another response, and failing that, reply to the ticket to confirm it's been transferred/being transferred to the PB team.
> [{quoted}](name=Seras Dragon,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=cjP84mgE,comment-id=00000000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-30T03:53:33.474+0000) > > So just to be clear on the timeline, you submitted your ticket, got a response from Blitzbot, replied, got a response saying it would be transferred to the PB team, then got the "no matter how you try to sugarcoat it" response? > > They seem a bit out of order to me is why I ask. If that's the order you received them, possibly that third response was written before the ticket was escalated and so didn't have the full context it should have. The PB team is smaller so they usually take a bit longer to reply than that, and would generally go much more in-depth. > > I'd probably wait a day or so and see if you get another response, and failing that, reply to the ticket to confirm it's been transferred/being transferred to the PB team. To clear it up. I found out the first was a bot. Never had a auto reply from blitz before. Then I had to do some click and awnser question. Then submit again for human reply which was. Dear Summoner, Please keep the civil tone so we can proceed with the feedback. Don't get too emaotional due to Blitz Bot's report :) We have a Player Behavior team in place dedicated to looking into cases like this, so I need to transfer your ticket. We cannot guarantee that the suspension will be lifted, but a member of our team will be investigating your case and contacting you as soon as they can. Please keep in mind that we respond to tickets in the order we receive them, so ‘bumping’ your ticket by sending us additional messages will send it to the back of our queue. This might inadvertently delay our response. :( Thank you for your patience! ‧͙⁺˚・༓☾ Xuě huā ☽༓・˚⁺‧͙ Player Support Specialist :・゚✧:・゚✧ "Sharing memories, colours, feelings is magic! Magic connects people."✧・゚: ✧・゚: As you can tell I didnt know it was a auto reply. I was thinking it was a human just copyin and pasting a reply. Then after the ticket was submitted again by Xuě huā { Or transfered if you wish } I got the reply of Hello, Rift Empress from the Player Behavior Team just arrived on your ticket. Thank you for contacting us and for your patience during this time. We've have started an extensive investigation into this matter and once it was completed, we concluded that we won't be able to lift, edit nor modify the suspension. Before I start giving you some context regarding the suspension, I do want to remind you that we can see all of the players' chat logs from any games: I did look into all that full chat log (your whole team's chat log as well as the enemy's chat log) and I can assure that Lucian has not said "kys" once during that game. Since we do not tolerate such offensive language during games, saying "kys" twice when no one during that game (not even the enemy team) ever said it is was definitively not the best approach. No matter how you try to sugarcoat it or justify it, negative attitude is still negative, regardless of whether you were the one who started the fight or whether if you were dragged into an useless argument. Just because other Summoners choose to be negative, doesn't mean you get to do that too. I mean you can do whatever you want but be prepared to face the consequences. Not every comment, remark or action from other players deserves a response from you. Especially if you'd just be ping-pong-ing negativity. Even when stuck in the game with negative players, there's the mute button and the report feature at the end of the game that allows us to investigate and take action on such players. Because we provide you with all the tools necessary to defend yourself against negativity, there's no excuse for adding to any negative attitude that could be displayed in a match. Getting angry, losing your cool and being negative is like voluntarily drinking poison but expecting the other players to feel sick: it only hurts you & your investment (the account). Letting negative remarks or actions get to you is giving these trolls undeserved power over your state of mind and also over your account (if you decide you act upon such remarks and respond back). Breaking the lines so it isnt confused with the rest Of cause at the end of it. They just say to mute and blah blah blah. But it seems like NO ONE is showing me or proving to me I was negivtive. Just seems like " We said it. So it is real " and I have to take it on the chin.. While the player that said it to me IS STILL PLAYING BUT I CANNOT. 3 times people have told me to KYS or to quote one " actually KYS wanker. People like you should always actually KYS " But because it seems Riot has taken it upon them self to leave out before chats / after game chat. That player is still playing. I know this because I booked mark their profile to see if something would be done. But nope. Really feel like Riot is just going dumb af. Saying GGWP { Good going well played } is negitive now. Also as I said in the ticket I said and I will say it again. Quoting my post. >[{quoted}](name=GamexOver,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=cjP84mgE,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-29T02:47:07.444+0000) > > Latest one was because he was autofilled adc and wanted jungle. I said and I quote this " No dodge " > To which he tried calling me some name but I have filter on and I said all was " ***** " is all I see. > > To wich he said KYS. Which means I have told them here. In the ticket. TO CHECK THE BEFORE GAME CHAT. LOBBY CHAT. Champion selection chat. I dont know what the chat is else called. Party matched lobby chat? Matched game lobby chat.
Ninox (OCE)
: Assuming the log is unedited and there weren't any other games that contributed, I would be pretty confident in saying that this is a false positive. At the very least a false escalation. The first response you got to your ticket was BlitzBot, which is essentially an automated response designed to answer the "why was I banned" type tickets. False positives are quite rare so it answers that question *most* of the time. The second response seems to have been a generic response, but if this is all there is to the case the ticket probably should have just been escalated. If you reply to it again it will naturally escalate and you'll get a personalised response. Sorry about the drama with that one.
> [{quoted}](name=Seras Dragon,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=cjP84mgE,comment-id=000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-11-30T01:48:48.547+0000) > > Assuming the log is unedited and there weren't any other games that contributed, I would be pretty confident in saying that this is a false positive. At the very least a false escalation. > > The first response you got to your ticket was BlitzBot, which is essentially an automated response designed to answer the "why was I banned" type tickets. False positives are quite rare so it answers that question *most* of the time. The second response seems to have been a generic response, but if this is all there is to the case the ticket probably should have just been escalated. > > If you reply to it again it will naturally escalate and you'll get a personalised response. > > Sorry about the drama with that one. I found out it was a bot. I did get a bit mad. " **Dear Summoner, Please keep the civil tone so we can proceed with the feedback. Don't get too emaotional due to Blitz Bot's report :) We have a Player Behavior team in place dedicated to looking into cases like this, so I need to transfer your ticket. We cannot guarantee that the suspension will be lifted, but a member of our team will be investigating your case and contacting you as soon as they can. Please keep in mind that we respond to tickets in the order we receive them, so ‘bumping’ your ticket by sending us additional messages will send it to the back of our queue. This might inadvertently delay our response. :( Thank you for your patience! ‧͙⁺˚・༓☾ Xuě huā ☽༓・˚⁺‧͙ Player Support Specialist :・゚✧:・゚✧ "Sharing memories, colours, feelings is magic! Magic connects people."✧・゚: ✧・゚:** " Was the reply. I got. Then after that I got this. " **No matter how you try to sugarcoat it or justify it, negative attitude is still negative, regardless of whether you were the one who started the fight or whether if you were dragged into an useless argument. Just because other Summoners choose to be negative, doesn't mean you get to do that too. I mean you can do whatever you want but be prepared to face the consequences. Not every comment, remark or action from other players deserves a response from you. Especially if you'd just be ping-pong-ing negativity. Even when stuck in the game with negative players, there's the mute button and the report feature at the end of the game that allows us to investigate and take action on such players. Because we provide you with all the tools necessary to defend yourself against negativity, there's no excuse for adding to any negative attitude that could be displayed in a match. Getting angry, losing your cool and being negative is like voluntarily drinking poison but expecting the other players to feel sick: it only hurts you & your investment (the account). Letting negative remarks or actions get to you is giving these trolls undeserved power over your state of mind and also over your account (if you decide you act upon such remarks and respond back).** " Which once again... This to me is a joke. Since I wasn't toxic / negivitive or anything. In fact I was trying to win the game. But some how trying to win the game is me being NEG!!! I guess it was because I didnt gank the lane or something. But I got dragons / rift I am sure of that. Meaning sure I suck at ganking. But I try and make up for it by other means. But no it is not edited in anyway what so ever. This is why I am left going " WTF " Really...
GamexOver (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=GreenAbsinthe,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=cjP84mgE,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-29T04:46:06.482+0000) > > The best thing you can do to avoid negative behaviour is to mute them and after the game ends report them. Replying back to their negative behaviour will only put yourself at risk. As I said before you can try and appeal the ban if you want. Additionally, I don't think its best to link their OP.GG pages as it's regarded as "naming and shaming". Have a nice day :) The best thing you can do to avoid negative behaviour is to mute them Lol... This in it's self is ironic. Going by the auto reply from the Bot. Players have reported you 7 times in the past 20 games for negative or abusive behaviors in chat - in human terms, this means giving up on games, griefing your fellow players, and generally being difficult to play with over a large number of matches and teammates. Here are some chat logs from games where you were heavily reported: Game 265535154: [All]GamexOver: FYI the dragon GamexOver: Said the player who said to me kys GamexOver: Ironic af GamexOver: Lol GamexOver: Sure [All]GamexOver: GGWP [All]GamexOver: please report adc very toxic. Told me to kys [All]GamexOver: Thank you [All]GamexOver: Fun game. I know these can be subjective concepts. I myself was once banned for calling my teammates “weak, fleshy underlings.” Even though I meant well, enough of them reported me for it that I re-programmed my communication style. By acting diplomatic and calm, I’m now able to bend them to my will without succumbing to the forbidden dance of verbal abuse. Yeah..... You see. I am in the mind set of " How can I win this " not " Riot is out to get me " so mute is what I normally do. Which is why you see about 9 lines of text in a game that went for over 20 mins. I always found this the funniest part about forums { I guess everyone else too } saying to mute people. Here is a better idea to being with. WHY ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE TELLING PEOPLE TO KYS ALLOWED TO PLAY THIS GAME AT ALL! You see I see it from this point of view.. What if they did it. I mean really. What if you were watching the news and you see this person named John and in the online world known as " EGGEATTER " has killed them self over a league game. What would you feel like. I am trying to " appeal the ban " but lets face it... Riot wont lift it. They will try and claim some BS about how I was negitive and so on. What I am completely pissed about.. I WAS FUCKING BAN THEY ARE ALLOWED TO PLAY. That is like me going out killing someone and then their family goes to jail even thou everyone in the street is saying " HE DID IT. Not the family " but the police just go " Nope the family said that he only said KYS " so now the family needs to go to jail for it. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
> [{quoted}](name=GamexOver,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=cjP84mgE,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-29T05:35:25.832+0000) > > I am trying to " appeal the ban " but lets face it... > Riot wont lift it. They will try and claim some BS about how I was negitive and so on. > > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}} Called it. So this is what I got about it. No matter how you try to sugarcoat it or justify it, negative attitude is still negative, regardless of whether you were the one who started the fight or whether if you were dragged into an useless argument. Just because other Summoners choose to be negative, doesn't mean you get to do that too. I mean you can do whatever you want but be prepared to face the consequences. GG. Riot you are a fucking loser of a company!
: The best thing you can do to avoid negative behaviour is to mute them and after the game ends report them. Replying back to their negative behaviour will only put yourself at risk. As I said before you can try and appeal the ban if you want. Additionally, I don't think its best to link their OP.GG pages as it's regarded as "naming and shaming". Have a nice day :)
> [{quoted}](name=GreenAbsinthe,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=cjP84mgE,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-29T04:46:06.482+0000) > > The best thing you can do to avoid negative behaviour is to mute them and after the game ends report them. Replying back to their negative behaviour will only put yourself at risk. As I said before you can try and appeal the ban if you want. Additionally, I don't think its best to link their OP.GG pages as it's regarded as "naming and shaming". Have a nice day :) The best thing you can do to avoid negative behaviour is to mute them Lol... This in it's self is ironic. Going by the auto reply from the Bot. Players have reported you 7 times in the past 20 games for negative or abusive behaviors in chat - in human terms, this means giving up on games, griefing your fellow players, and generally being difficult to play with over a large number of matches and teammates. Here are some chat logs from games where you were heavily reported: Game 265535154: [All]GamexOver: FYI the dragon GamexOver: Said the player who said to me kys GamexOver: Ironic af GamexOver: Lol GamexOver: Sure [All]GamexOver: GGWP [All]GamexOver: please report adc very toxic. Told me to kys [All]GamexOver: Thank you [All]GamexOver: Fun game. I know these can be subjective concepts. I myself was once banned for calling my teammates “weak, fleshy underlings.” Even though I meant well, enough of them reported me for it that I re-programmed my communication style. By acting diplomatic and calm, I’m now able to bend them to my will without succumbing to the forbidden dance of verbal abuse. Yeah..... You see. I am in the mind set of " How can I win this " not " Riot is out to get me " so mute is what I normally do. Which is why you see about 9 lines of text in a game that went for over 20 mins. I always found this the funniest part about forums { I guess everyone else too } saying to mute people. Here is a better idea to being with. WHY ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE TELLING PEOPLE TO KYS ALLOWED TO PLAY THIS GAME AT ALL! You see I see it from this point of view.. What if they did it. I mean really. What if you were watching the news and you see this person named John and in the online world known as " EGGEATTER " has killed them self over a league game. What would you feel like. I am trying to " appeal the ban " but lets face it... Riot wont lift it. They will try and claim some BS about how I was negitive and so on. What I am completely pissed about.. I WAS FUCKING BAN THEY ARE ALLOWED TO PLAY. That is like me going out killing someone and then their family goes to jail even thou everyone in the street is saying " HE DID IT. Not the family " but the police just go " Nope the family said that he only said KYS " so now the family needs to go to jail for it. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
: From what you posted it looks like you said the phrase "kys". I would assume the IFS (Instant Feedback System) picked up on this and then issued out the ban. You could send in a ticket to [Riot Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) and try to appeal the ban. I would also suggest looking at the [Reporting a Player](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752884-Reporting-a-Player) guide because it shows what is unacceptable, gives some pro tips and also tells you what you should avoid doing.
> [{quoted}](name=GreenAbsinthe,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=cjP84mgE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-29T03:55:55.306+0000) > > From what you posted it looks like you said the phrase "kys". I would assume the IFS (Instant Feedback System) picked up on this and then issued out the ban. You could send in a ticket to [Riot Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) and try to appeal the ban. I would also suggest looking at the [Reporting a Player](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752884-Reporting-a-Player) guide because it shows what is unacceptable, gives some pro tips and also tells you what you should avoid doing. I guess that is the issue.. The thing that breaks my break. The player that said KYS when I called them out on it because they called someone else for being toxic. They said I quote " You deserve it " Is still playing right now. But me on the other hand... I am not allowed because I was toxic. Sure I do rage a little from time to time. Like the rest of us. Some point you and everyone else will say " Fuck you people suck " or " Damn stop feeding FFS you drongo " but I am fair from toxic. I can link 3 OPGG pages of people that have told me after the game " Gamexover KYS wanker.. I mean it do it " but yet still playing the game right now. Even the player I was ban for saying to me is still playing the game.............. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
Rioter Comments
Taeke (OCE)
: It's not to do with my loses, the MMR is broken I have seen people who are doing their placements for a new season and they were silver last season and they go 10 - 0 and ended up in plat 5. I have done that myself I have gone from gold 5 to gold 3 by just doing placements.
> [{quoted}](name=Taeke,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=IVm6m1Eg,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-02-17T07:14:16.378+0000) > > It's not to do with my loses, the MMR is broken I have seen people who are doing their placements for a new season and they were silver last season and they go 10 - 0 and ended up in plat 5. I have done that myself I have gone from gold 5 to gold 3 by just doing placements. Sad part about this. When the season started I went ham day 1. Did all my placements and got placed into B2. Silver 4 fighting for silver 3 end of last season. So I was okay B2.. But about 1 week later I got into silver 4 and now trying to get into silver 3. The one thing I have found that has shit the hell out of me about the ranking system on OCE is how MMR DOESNT MATTER ANYMORE. In fact I got another account I am about to do rank on. I am going to play support only. I made a post on NA about the issue on OCE and the support role being randomly placed in games with no real care for what tier and mmr it is. Only to get the normal NA idea of it.. Which is sad in it's self as NA popualtion in 5 times the OCE population. So when it comes to OCE the way it seems.. IT IS A FUCKORAMA! Going by the old system before OPGG took it away. I would have been placed into gold 3 at the end of my placements. { Playing as top } But by the new system it is B2. The new system on the other hand is more worried about games and making games and the popaltion of each tier. If there isn't enough people for say Silver 1.. People that are Gold + are now demoted so to speak during placements to make the popaltion of that tier. In fact once I finished my placements. I was the only one in B2 for about 2 weeks. Even when I got into promos about a day later for B1.. I was the only one in my tier or anyother teir for that fact. So once someone was added into the tier I was alone in I added them or OPGG them and saw B1 was full of silver 1 players last season. That is a full tier below what they were. They even did the placement matches vsing gold and some how.. BRONZE 1. I climbed back into silver fast. So I didn't mind being B2 placement. But the fact remains. WHY ADD IRON TO OCE only to say " We believe this will allow everyone to climb easier " when it has completely fragged everyone. https://www.unrankedsmurfs.com/blog/how-many-lol-players-are-on-each-server This is my point. Then went you take inaccount of rank population https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/rankings/rank-distribution/oce You can see it even more. This is why also we dont have role placements. Nothing to do with " We are testing it " has everything to do with pop on the server. Since riot cannot take the time to care about OCE.. I cannot take the time to play more then a few games { Maybe } a week. Climbing the rank ladder on OCE is just a joke. Sure dont get me wrong here. Master tier and Diamond gold and so on will always climb. But others.. Welcome to hard stuck. The poplation cannot handle massive up ranking.
: Got called the n-word
Who cares.. N word is more of a USA thing.. If they called you a abo. Then you can get mad. One game someone called me a red neck.. I was like " Okay. " because that is something that is a USA thing. Sure I understand parts of NZ are wantabe gangsta like bloods and so on. But who cares about them!
: ranked
I must support this. I just had a bronze 4 jungle.. THAT had finished placements. In a silver game. I got a iron 4 adc when I was que for top support. This is crap. When you are in a tier of iron you play with bronze 4 or iron. NOT SILVER!!!! I am in silver 4 not playing with plat players. WHY IS IRON AND B4 PLAYING IN SILVER GAMES. I shouldn't have to carry them and say " Put a ward here. Check your mini map every 15 seconds or when someone pings " I should be with players that are doing this. Rank in pre season was trash. Iron 4 players in adc role standing still to hit something endlessly. {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
: Should I Quit?
Put simple. Yes
Fèéd (NA)
: I also just recently bought the lunar reveal pass but now i can't put it to use after getting a ban for having a "negative attitude" when my teammate has been flaming nonstop and basically inting
> [{quoted}](name=Fèéd,realm=NA,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=k0iaONU8,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-01T12:55:49.016+0000) > > negative attitude Is all they will claim. Ticket or not!
iloverem (OCE)
: how do i get banned for this?
> [{quoted}](name=iloverem,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=J3olH0HW,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-12-14T23:01:03.752+0000) > > i have been trying to reform for about two months. i joined a BLIND pick game for some causal fun like you do because its a VIDEO game call top on MY screen (which they still have YET to fix the bug to see who typed first) i got top but apparently the nasus got top so im like okay well i guess ill jg then because every other lane is taken in which they are already spamming in all chat "report fiora lane stealing" (i took smite so that i could jg) as soon as i get into the with smite the defualt items for fiora are dorans blade and health pot so out of instinct i go out of fountain immediately with them not realising that i need my jungle item head straight to red buff... as i realise that i need my jungle item i quickly recall to see if i can afford it with selling my dorans blade unfortunately i cannot so i head to the toplane which is nasus v nasus (blind pick) because if i do jg i will get no xp and die from the monsters because im fiora (only untill i can afford my item (hunters mache)) in which Immediately spam pinged to go away i tell him taht i cannot jungle untill i have my item so i need to stay here for a little bit so i don't get too behind we shove in the nasus which makes him lose 70% of the farm in where my Nasus gets most of it at 350 gold i recall to get my hunters mache and head to my red buff do my red to my wolves go to my blue and find Udyr their fortunately me and Nasus can kill him landing nasus first blood increasing his lead... 15 mins in Nasus is down 60 cs and died two times and starts immediately bashing me like it was my fault and my team soon follows him in it desperately trying to prove my innocence just makes them hate me even more... Never swore didnt flame anyone got 9x reported for verbal harassment or something honestly dont know what to do now ;/ > https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/summoner/oce/iloverem > > https://gyazo.com/37a4b0cf52c565c3b8c5683b40606937 > https://gyazo.com/64f44924a2995b2e7a15f9ea5b25e9bb > https://gyazo.com/848a43e15f0eb0c1f0529b28f62ba683 Want to see something funny also. https://boards.oce.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour/H3WtAzIH-14-day-ban-for-this I got a 14 day chat ban on my GF's account because I was told KYS LOSER!! Then I took a break for 4 hours. Thinking by then the player would be one of two things. BAN and not playing because of what they said or not logged in. 4 hours later... I get the same player that made me leave the game for 4 hours to cool off in another game and once again said " I said to go kill your self loser. Why are you even playing " at which point because I was { To quote Riot here } Negitive. Then I got a 14 day ban for it. Want to know what is even better then that? The same player yesturday in one of my game... said " Just kill your self fuck head. " Funny how it works. Telling someone KYS is now allowed but when someone calls you a kid. You reply with.. " Why must I be a kid. Do you like to play with kids? Damn sicko. Get some help and stop thinking about you playing with kids " gets you prema. Nothing will happen brah. You are prema. Meaning if you want to play. Make a new account. Riot is killing there own game right now. I guess that is why players are saying KYS again. Riot cannot ban anyone now since they went ape shit on banning people and now they killed the population of the game to hard. New season normally brings old / new people back to the game. I guess this season it didnt happen as they wanted. I have been in que for over 20 mins right now while I typed this waitting for a ARAM... Nice job Riot.
slxw (OCE)
: this guy is still using Gillett, hmm so am I. I mean am I going to chuck out all my razors cause a bad ad says men are toxic, no.
> [{quoted}](name=slxw,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=ihzcT5Nh,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-31T14:25:53.734+0000) > > this guy is still using Gillett, hmm so am I. I mean am I going to chuck out all my razors cause a bad ad says men are toxic, no. Men aren't toxic. MALES ARE TOXIC. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
: a rant on ranked
> [{quoted}](name=TheeKingKrispy,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=UZPd5bmM,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-01-30T21:03:57.204+0000) > > im mad salty at ranked, because of a game i just did. everyone won their lanes apart from top. nasus 1v9d. im only making this post because well he 1v9d. there was no counterplay whatsoever except from camping under turret and taunting him, but it’s useless cuz he just presses q, one shots, and heals up. im completely aware of low elo blah blah blah dont know how to counter blah blah blah. imo it should be impossible to 1v5. I was and fighting to be again in silver. Low elo or not I can careless... Of cause you will always get some " I am pro because I am plat " but your post makes me laugh. Let me try and understand this. > [{quoted}](name=TheeKingKrispy,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=UZPd5bmM,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-01-30T21:03:57.204+0000) > > there was no counterplay whatsoever except from camping under turret and taunting him, but it’s useless cuz he just presses q, one shots, and heals up. Why did you push to tower? Issue with nas isn't top lane nas. It is jungle nas ganking at 10 mins with 500 stacks. { Yes I know it is a over statement but that is what it feels like } Top lane nas in general is someone you never push lane on. You want him to push and then you freeze near your tower. This makes him walk all the way down the lane to cs. Then you gang up on him and just rip him apart. But yes I have no clue why they buff nas the way they did... I guess it might have something to do with Riot high on drugs at the time. Played a game of nas and got melted. Then said " I need more stacks to fight this game. LETS BUFF IT! " But also.. You really do need to learn to counter play a nas or do not go top in general. When I see a nas as {{champion:98}} . I laugh and melt him. I know my jungle will help me. I know my team will help me. They dont want free stacks nas.
Rioter Comments
: Matchmaking sux? How does MMR work?
: Because their based in America and don't give a shit about their other audiences. They used to release game modes to servers based on time zones. Now we had to wait till the 28th to be told the game is being released 3am on the 29th for OCE. Bloody Ridiculous... https://twitter.com/Mortdog/status/1089553635082567680
> [{quoted}](name=Charastiel,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=gFiKXspk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-28T01:43:36.372+0000) > > Because their based in America and don't give a shit about their other audiences. They used to release game modes to servers based on time zones. Now we had to wait till the 28th to be told the game is being released 3am on the 29th for OCE. Bloody Ridiculous... > > https://twitter.com/Mortdog/status/1089553635082567680 Korean servers get it in there time. Not NA. Also I guess they release it in NA time for china.
: is it possible to get unbanned if you got permabanned?
> [{quoted}](name=PirateDook,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=MyBhTI4K,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-01-25T01:26:15.689+0000) > > title No. Simple as that! Longer verison. Riot makes more money out of you. I got ban once for 14 days and told anymore bans after this the account will be perma. All because I quoted someone saying "KYS loser I mean really KYS" then took a break for 4 hours and got the same player again and I was neg in that match. If we break it down to what is really being said " This account has almost every champion. You have more then enough to unlock everything. You get S's and so on so you don't buy skins / rune pages or anything. You unlock everything for free. So we see a point we can now try and ban this account so you will buy champions / skins " So when you are perma... Small percent will stop playing the game for good. BUT!! The greater percent will make a new account and buy things all over again. So perma ban = money to Riot. No matter what others claim.
: Why are you playing Ranked? Thats not so clever either, and it seems like the real problem to me. It's the beginning of the season, every Tom Dick Harry and all their dogs are going to be making a mad dash for ranked in the hope that they'll finally get placed in challenger, where they belong. They'll get placed in bronze/iron, play for a few more weeks get demoralised and realise they're not getting out, then stop playing ranked til next year. Also you have the actual good players who get placed lower than usual, and spend the next couple of weeks or so moving back up to where they belong. Either way, right now while the system is in flux, is the time where you are most likely going to have to contend with these people. So why, in the name of "logic" would you start your grind when theres a very high possibility that these two demographics will be placed in/against your teams? It makes absolutely no sense. Be patient. Wait a month: **Wait for** the tiers to even out, give it time for the bad players to fall below your elo and the good players to rise above it. So your games aren't likely to be negatively affected by either. **Wait for** any huge balance anomalies to be evened out over the next two patches. **Wait for** the new champ's hype to have simmered down so you don't have to waste a ban. **Wait for** any ranked issued (theres always some; LP gain/loss bugs, placement errors, etc.) to be ironed out. Let everyone who jumps straight into ranked on day 1 without thinking take the fall for all these problems. Then once everything has calmed down and evened out, then start playing ranked. The people in your bracket will be people who actually belong there and the system has had a month to put them there. Why take these unnecessary risks by starting ranked on day 1? Thats what really makes no sense here.
> [{quoted}](name=Lord Sesshomaru,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=q1eX91ZA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-26T07:12:35.995+0000) > > Why take these unnecessary risks by starting ranked on day 1? > Thats what really makes no sense here. Why you ask... I will finally get placed into master tier... It is 50/50 if I get them on my side or vsing them. All jokes aside thou. Day 1 heck even week 1. Is the truest form of 50/50 matches ever. Dont get me wrong it is very tilting. But Riot has always said that each match is 50/50. Win or lose it is up to you. Right now since I have been in rank since day 1. It is really 50 50.. Normally it is a one sided thing. One team really melts face and the other team just crys about it as they watch. Right now I can go into rank and face someone higher skill level then me { AKA Gold } and watch replay on what they did and what they didnt and leant from it. Not someone on youtube making some video " PLAT SMURF IN B5 " and watch him rip them. It is me vsing the gold.. Trying everything to not feed. Trash talk to them. Try to freeze the wave on them. Call for a gank and camp them. IT IS FING GREAT!!!!!! I vsed a gold 3 Yorkic in one game I played and held my own for a bit. Then after that match I took a break and then played again. This time trying to do what he did to me. Then a silver 5 called me a smurf.. THAT MADE ME LAUGH SO HARD! I was silver 4. But they said I was a smurf. I would never have had that ever unless I did rank day 1. As for OP as I dont want to side track your post. Everyone is more edgey during placements and promos. Riot them selfs could back up this. Only because of investment. Dont take it personal at all. People afk as they want the game to end. They FF'ed and you didnt want too. So this is time they could have finding another match or maybe even a win. Once again this is due to the investment of the player. Player wants to win and climb higher. This can only be done with another game as the game you are in right now is not working. Same goes for promos. You want to climb. Riot said " Congrats. Lets see if you can make it " and now the player is like " YES I WILL " then gets a team that isnt going to make it to the finish line. Now this player feels like they have been short changed. So they start to act out to the people that are short changing them. Dont take it personal. I am 100% they do not mean it that way. {{sticker:sg-ahri-1}} Well one would hope!
: I doubt your friend was Iron 1 last season since it didn't exist last season. You will always end up a lower rank than you finished last season, even if you go 10-0 in placements. I was Gold 3 in season 7 and last season I went 8-2 in placements and got Silver 2. That's just how it works. The system is like that so that it takes a couple months for you to climb to where "you belong" then you have the rest of the season to get higher. It would be boring if you got placed in Bronze 2 from placements then sat there all year because that's your skill level. Riot try to make ranked a little but more fulfilling by giving you the chance to climb.
> [{quoted}](name=BarryButcher,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=Z4FgqeMK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-25T13:37:03.938+0000) > > I doubt your friend was Iron 1 last season since it didn't exist last season. > > You will always end up a lower rank than you finished last season, even if you go 10-0 in placements. I was Gold 3 in season 7 and last season I went 8-2 in placements and got Silver 2. That's just how it works. > > The system is like that so that it takes a couple months for you to climb to where "you belong" then you have the rest of the season to get higher. > It would be boring if you got placed in Bronze 2 from placements then sat there all year because that's your skill level. Riot try to make ranked a little but more fulfilling by giving you the chance to climb. This is 100% comfirmed. I was silver 4 fighting for silver 3. I got Bronze 2. Issue I find is all the unranked people. I was B2 and now I am demoted to B3. I dont know if I just go away for a week or two then come back so I can climb easier. Trying to climb right now is like russian roulette...
Ninox (OCE)
: Primarily end of season rank. Preseason has some influence, but it is not substantial. The vast majority will drop at least 3 Divisions from their end of last season rank (G4-S2, S2-S5 etc) though many drop further. Very few maintain that rank, and only a tiny percentage raise it. It's a soft reset, so as a general rule for starting a new season, you will be starting lower than you finished.
> [{quoted}](name=Seras Dragon,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=94wxWE0c,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-24T05:40:40.080+0000) > > Primarily end of season rank. Preseason has some influence, but it is not substantial. The vast majority will drop at least 3 Divisions from their end of last season rank (G4-S2, S2-S5 etc) though many drop further. Very few maintain that rank, and only a tiny percentage raise it. It's a soft reset, so as a general rule for starting a new season, you will be starting lower than you finished. I can comfirm. I was silver 4 almost on promos to silver 3. I got bronze 2 from 7 wins and 3 loss's. Kinda broke my heart as OPGG said on the old system I would have gotten GOLD 4. I miss the old system. I am sad now. BRONZE FOR LIFE!!!! {{sticker:sg-shisa}}
Nightjar (OCE)
: i watched an OPL vod, and it didn't work for me. {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}}
> [{quoted}](name=Nightjar,realm=OCE,application-id=ATM3HYki,discussion-id=HHL68ceN,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-21T09:35:55.882+0000) > > i watched an OPL vod, and it didn't work for me. > {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}} I feel for you. I watched all of LCK matches. { On personal note this wasnt a bad thing at all } and I did not get anything for watching. I put OPL on mute while I was playing get over it. Next thing I know.. Bang got it. My GF was watching LCK with me and never got it either. So while we were watching LCK she played OPL. Thats why I tried it.
: I know it's preseason but still
> [{quoted}](name=AHarmlessCupcake,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=1zaBnJKf,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-12-13T04:47:59.578+0000) > > Since about mid season, this game has been the most toxic game I have encountered. AFK's, ints and people who just mechanically play to disrupt games. > I know it is now pre-season, and it it gets out of control. I am borderline ready to quit league. I thought the changes this year were awesome, But most of the games I have played on the second half of the season, have been a very negative experience. On top of that I get chat banned, for one game I got toxic (no form of discrimination), I put in a ticket about it they replied with 'Consistent negative behavior' is why I was banned, they also stated that it was from one game as well. Yet game after game right now, i'm in games where people are being racist, telling people to commit suicide and how they should do it and then there the people mechanically in game just doing stuff that ruins the game. > Why do I feel that league just do not care. I came from DotA, and it felt like they were always trying to improve their penalty system, playing league, over the few years that I have played this game, it has just been getting more toxic. > Yeah I am low elo, but I am also vision impaired, I might not be able to see the mini map properly, But I still won't go out my way to ruin someone else's experience because they didn't ping missing 100%.... 6 games of it now.. IN A FKING ROW! Like wtf. One told me to kill my self. Another called me a %%%got because my internet dropped out. Another said I should drink bleach.... FUCK ME THIS IS INSANE!
Rioter Comments
Nightjar (OCE)
: thanks captain obvious, it's not like there is a big text on the screen telling you, that you aren't logged in if you do that. No there is really a bug with some people's watch reward quests that causes them not to complete.
> [{quoted}](name=Nightjar,realm=OCE,application-id=ATM3HYki,discussion-id=HHL68ceN,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-01-20T11:58:09.104+0000) > > thanks captain obvious, it's not like there is a big text on the screen telling you, that you aren't logged in if you do that. > > No there is really a bug with some people's watch reward quests that causes them not to complete. I got it... It is region locked.... I played OCE ones on mute in the back ground while I played another game altogether. I got it done fast.
Rioter Comments
Ninox (OCE)
: He wasn't perma'd for that log, he was punished for that log. He was perma'd for ignoring all prior warnings, including an explicit threat of permanent suspension for any further violations, and continuing with problematic behaviour. If it had been his first offence, it more than likely would have just been a 10 game chat restriction.
> [{quoted}](name=Seras Dragon,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=lQBqbd3u,comment-id=00010001000000000000000000000000000000010000000000000001,timestamp=2018-10-17T14:12:40.949+0000) > > In other words, don't be an ass to people. Is it really so hard to comprehend that abusing someone isn't allowed? Would that not just be assumed? Okay.. So why arent the players that " abused " me ban? Please explain that one? What about the fact Ezreal in the game shown in my log... TOLD ME I HOPE YOU DIE OF AIDS %%%GOT! What about that? This 2 way standard is what is really pissing me off mostly. Like lets be real here. You said and I quote "In other words, don't be an ass to people. Is it really so hard to comprehend that abusing someone isn't allowed? Would that not just be assumed?" Soooo WHY ARENT THEY BAN! You have also said to me on another post.. It isnt about how many report you. Well I just tried it out. On this account I went full Aussie toxic. Everyone was Drongo and a few short of a carton. Then on my other account.. I owned up and went full Aussie toxic. Guess which one got the chat ban? Thats right. The one that didnt own up. The one where people wanted to blame me for everything that was going wrong. This was the one where they went full toxic... But hey I got chat ban after 1 game and being on level 3 honor. WHY? BECUASE IT IS BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT REPORT YOU! So please tell me again how it isn't.. I welcome it. Also while your at it. Tell me why Vayne isn't ban? Why isnt the garen ban? Why was the damn mid also not ban? How about Ezral that told me to die?
: You're Silver V. Like, Silver V, Bronze V - really, what's the difference? Why are you taking the game so seriously? Just have some fun.
> [{quoted}](name=kaboomblah,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=lQBqbd3u,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-10-13T04:06:29.913+0000) > > You're Silver V. Like, Silver V, Bronze V - really, what's the difference? > > Why are you taking the game so seriously? Just have some fun. Always someone trying to troll.
Istypuff (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Hacks4Dayz,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=ovlBqH3e,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-01-30T03:30:18.541+0000) > > LOL.. I guess you didnt see the history. GG Plat = Wantabe pro Yeah I agree. People like him a toxic. Just because your bronze means you are not allowed to say anything. You have to take on the chin and " Git Gud " or some crap. Mean while if everyone in " Bronze " was to stop playing this game.. 30 to 40% of the population would leave. But hey. Just because your plat you will always find a game with bronze players RIGHT! [This](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/rankings/rank-distribution/oce) will help a plat get off his high horse
> [{quoted}](name=Istypuff,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=ovlBqH3e,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-30T08:02:41.527+0000) > > Yeah I agree. People like him a toxic. Just because your bronze means you are not allowed to say anything. You have to take on the chin and " Git Gud " or some crap. > Mean while if everyone in " Bronze " was to stop playing this game.. 30 to 40% of the population would leave. > > But hey. Just because your plat you will always find a game with bronze players RIGHT! > > [This](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/rankings/rank-distribution/oce) will help a plat get off his high horse I have seen a lot of people say things like this. I just hate people that think they are so great because of a ranking. I havent done rank. But in SC2 when it first came out I was Diamond. Then in S2 I was Diamond again. But I never told anyone of a lower tier " Bronze mentality " They have just as much right as others to say what they want from a game.

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