Ornn (OCE)
: Boycott eternals. DON'T BUY THEM!
I'm going to be honest, the whole "Eternals" concept seems great. A system that allows players to earn achievement, and even on specific champions, that they can then use to show off their prowess. It sounds great, in theory. Then someone along the line decides to monetise the crap out of it, like most everything else in LoL these days, and, as a result, the entire concept becomes disgusting... Personally, I'd *love* to see a good achievement system in-game, and I'm sure most of the community would too, but this is just the wrong way to do it. There is no need, at all, for something like this to cost actual money, and the fact that Riot have said "We took a look at how other games have tackled similar systems" in the [Dev Post Exploring Eternals](https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-au/2019/08/dev-exploring-eternals/), and then decided to package them with RP purchases, just shows how out of touch they are, since putting achievement systems behind a paywall is something that any decent game isn't likely to do (in fact, many of them will provide small amounts of "premium currency" to the player for acquiring certain achievements). As a personal recommendation, I'd suggest that no one bother to use the system at all. We need to show Riot that we don't like it, and that's not going to work if people are still buying into it (even if you're getting the RP for free from things like competitions or giveaways). Please, don't condone this from Riot...
: multi billion dollar company, still no 2 factor authentication btw
Just to be clear, Riot have introduced 2FA in the form of email verification codes. You can refer to the [2FA and Trusted Devices Support article](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/360010366413) for more info.
Latte420 (OCE)
: Thanks for the response. I have secured my account with a different password, howeverused a different pw for this account than for other ones so I can't understand how I'd be hacked. I've done multiple scans as well and can't seem to find anything, maybe I need better antivirus?? No clue. Also never have given my pw to anyone.
From what you've said, I don't think you have any reason to worry about other accounts/services. If this compromise were the result of a compromised computer, or shared email (for example), then there would probably be other accounts getting compromised as well. Since that hasn't happened, it's probably just a case of someone managing to get access to your LoL account without anything else. It's just always a good idea to check all of that stuff in case there is a deeper issue, as it will allow you to get on top of the issue sooner rather than later.
Latte420 (OCE)
: Permanently Banned Wrongfully
So, this sound like it could be a compromised account, in which case you'll want to submit an account recovery ticket to [Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) (use the "Recover my account" option, you'll need to be logged out to do so). The support agent will want to verify that you're the original account owner, and will ask a series of questions to help that along. You wont have to answer all of them, just enough to prove beyond reasonable doubt (also, any information about the account that can't be accessed through Riot or 3rd party services might help). Hopefully, they'll be able to identify a compromise and take the case from there. Changing your password would also be a good idea. Note that if you have given your account details to anyone else, you *may* not receive the same assistance from support. Account sharing (in any of it's forms) is a breach of the ToU, and Riot tends to view compromises on shared accounts with significantly more scepticism. I would also recommend running an anti-virus scan on any personal computers you've used recently, as well as recommend the same to anyone who has a computer you've used for LoL recently (personally, I'd recommend Malwarebytes Anti-Malware for manual scans, as it tends to pick up a bit more than other anti-virus programs in my experience, but that's up to you). I'd also recommend ensuring the security of any important accounts (like emails, banks etc) just in case. The website https://haveibeenpwned.com/ is a good tool to help track down any compromises on your accounts as well.
: the file is too big to send on email
If you're able to upload the file to some kind of file share service (Google Drive or Dropbox, for example), then share the file with the Riot live report email "ocelivereports@riotgames.com" and/or provide a link through a support ticket, that should work well enough.
: but nobody's dead yet and I still see their legends' missing sometimes and Garen's not pathing anymore while spinning if his target dies, he just spins there, wooping Casper :l I hope nobody's hatin on Mageren (Garen with morellos melting walls of tanks) in early rounds
Sounds like there's probably some bugs at play then. Best thing to do would be to submit bug reports about what you're experiencing (ensures Riot is informed that the bugs exist and give them information to help track down the issue), either on the NA boards or through Support.
: Why is my league crashing everytime i enter a game?
If this is the "critical error" issue that's causing some players to fail to load into games, I'd recommend you take a look at this thread (and follow instructions to submit screenshot/logs, if possible, as it should help Riot identify the cause): https://boards.oce.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/help-support-oce/EAjcx13U-read-loading-screen-crashes If it's a different issue, it would be useful to have more information on what's occurring, such as any error messages that appear, or any unusual behaviours the client/game exhibits, as it will help others to troubleshoot the issue with you. You can also try looking through articles on the support site (I'd recommend ["Login, patching, crashing, & connecting"](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/categories/115001242867) category) to see if there's anything helpful there, or try submitting a ticket to [Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) (use the "Tech issues: Install, patch, lag, or crashes" option) explaining what's happening and see if they can help (it *may* take 24-48 hours to receive a response, try to include as much information as you can in the initial ticket).
: I am having the same problem on my end could you also help me?
Seems the issue is still occurring for some players. I recommend taking a look at this thread: https://boards.oce.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/help-support-oce/EAjcx13U-read-loading-screen-crashes If the issue occurs again, submitting a screenshot and the relevant log (as per the instructions within the thread) would help Riot identify the cause and resolve the issue.
Adder (OCE)
: Why the hell are there so many AFKs?
Just a quick heads up, there have been some issues in patch 9.14 that have been causing problems for some players loading into games which may be causing a noticeably significant increase in AFK players. Important info regarding the issue, as well as steps for submitting logs, can be found in this thread just posted by Riot Gehirn: https://boards.oce.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/help-support-oce/EAjcx13U-read-loading-screen-crashes
: They should rename TFT's FFA mode to GoT mode
If you're versing a team with no Little Legend (TFT avatar) in a round with an odd number of people, that probably means you're versing the "duplicate" team, and the game should still tell you who you're versing in the top-centre of the screen next to the stage number (as with every other PvP round). If things are just not working properly, it would be prudent to submit a bug report, either on the [NA boards](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/) (in the TFT bug report section) or via [Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) (use the "I have a question about Teamfight Tactics" option).
: Let me get this straight
Honestly, I agree with Alpha. It's a predatory business model, no doubts from me. So far as Riot, as a company, is concerned, "community" is no longer important, just "profit by any means necessary". Riot's business model has been going to shit for years, and really it all started when they introduced the Hextech Crafting system. For something that seemed benign at the time, it's just led the way for Riot to push every player towards lootboxes and the crafting system itself, both of which are pretty much designed to generate profit off addiction (as supported by the [RANZCP referral to the Australian government](https://www.ranzcp.org/files/resources/submissions/ltr-president-to-senate-sc-re-gaming-micro-transac.aspx) regarding "micro-transactions"). Just consider how everything about event rewards (and really, most/any "free" content) is done through the crafting system now, and how everything in that system (event exclusive or otherwise) uses all the flashy colours and animations, and in a "drawn out" way (they tend to take a couple seconds or more), that is so common with gambling devices. Even the levelling system and earning BE, which is a very *fundamental* system in the game (players are exposed to it ***from level 1***), *and* can be reasonably argued as having an indirect impact on the gameplay, are based almost *solely* around lootboxes. Everything "free" is geared towards exposing as many players as possible, which in turn means as many "at risk" individuals as possible are exposed and, subsequently, more likely to develop the addictive tendencies that Riot's business model is designed to prey upon. It would be great if the community managed to "get woke" and realise what's going on, but they've all been conditioned to just accept lootboxes and the Hextech Crafting system as the "norm", even though they really shouldn't be. Lootboxes should *never* be a fundamental feature in any game, and yet they are in LoL. Of course, people are happy to simply explain that away with "oh, it's free" or "oh, it doesn't affect gameplay", when realistically that shouldn't even matter if it's all designed to trigger addiction, because that's not going to stop people from getting addicted. These event shops are just an extension of that problem, it's why they're designed around using the crafting system, and why it's now impossible to *earn* everything in those shops by just playing, even when you've spent the money to get the pass. Riot just want profit, and they're pushing players into that all the time with these kinds of systems, regardless of the negative effects that might have.
: Okay, so with Arcade Caitlyn...
You'll have to buy each version of the skin separately. It's been that way with Prestige skins (and even chromas) since they were first introduced. Or you could manage to get really lucky and reroll some skin shards into one (or even both) of them.
lolmakers (OCE)
: hello
I'd recommend you submit a ticket to [Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) and see if there's anything they can do to help, though they may not be able to, either due to limitations with what they can change or how the loot system works, or perhaps due to Riot's policy on this kind of issue.
: I didn't know you can take taken names on a new account
Yeh, people "hording" summoner names is annoying. I honestly think the name decay system needs to be revised to promote actual commitment in retaining the names, rather than simply being able to play 1 game every 6 months minimum, or 2.5 years for level 30+ accounts. Unless that person actually spent money to grab the name, they really shouldn't have it, as new account *shouldn't* be able to take inactive Summoner names from other accounts (refer to the [Inactive Summoner Name Rules](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201751914) support page. If you're interested in pursuing that, you can try submitting a ticket to [Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us) about it and see what conclusion they come to.
Choopi (OCE)
: Unban. 11/6/2017
It's always good to see someone who's making effort to improve their behaviour, it really does work out better for everyone when people do that. Keep up the good work, man. So far as the possibility of being unbanned, Riot's policies are pretty much "only if it's a false positive". Depending on the specific circumstances of the case, you *might* be able to get the ban removed, but the chances of that are very small (I believe the false positive rate is well below 1%) and ultimately up to the discretion of Riot. You can feel free to submit an appeal to [Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) (use the "Discuss a personal suspension or restriction" option), but it's important to keep in mind that it statistically wont get the result you want. Riot has done some experiments attempting to reward "reformed" players, by giving them the opportunity to earn back their perma-banned accounts in proving they've reformed, however those experiments tend to have a 1% success rate, with the vast majority (99%) of "reformed" players simply going back to their old behaviours after getting their account back. Ultimately, the damage it causes is just too great for such a small benefit. You can still play on a new/alternate account, but generally "permanent" ban means "permanent".
Papega (OCE)
: My Permanent Ban
If you want to appeal the ban you'll need to submit a ticket to [Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) (use the "Discuss a personal suspension or restriction" option) and they'll go through the process with you. The first response will likely be a generalised "copy-paste" response, but you can feel free to ask for some more information and they should be able to explain it to you a bit more. If I'm not mistaken, Support has a lot of ticket to get through currently (lots of people sending in about TFT issues), so it may take a couple days to get a response (any additional responses from you will bump your ticket to the back of the queue, so best to avoid that if possible). False positives tend to be pretty rare, so the chances of a successful appeal can be pretty low depending on the circumstances. We wont be able to accurately comment on that possibility without some more context (chat logs would be the main thing here), so if you're happy to provide that someone can go through it with you and give you an idea of whether an appeal would be successful. Generally, Riot's position is that "each player is responsible for their own behaviour and another player breaking the rules doesn't give them any leeway", and how well you do in playing/winning wont affect the possibility of a punishment.
: Why are Trollers and Griefers allowed to run free in League of Legends?
So far as trolls and greifers go, they're not allowed to engage in that behaviour. Riot's policies are pretty clear on that, and it's in the best interest of Riot and the community that action is taken to deal with them. That said, Riot's systems aren't that efficient when it comes to gameplay offences. The automated systems in place often take a while to track down the consistencies in such behaviour, and will tend to fall short on the more nuanced cases, and Riot simply doesn't have enough manpower to have them all dealt with manually (though there is some manual oversight to help keep the system on track). Riot *should* be working on improving their systems, but as it stands anything relating to gameplay offences just tends to take longer and be harder to detect. In having said all of that, player reports are *very* important in helping those systems improve, particularly in the nuanced cases. Those report will help provide feedback to the system, giving it more data to work with, and help improve it's efficiency and ability to detect such behaviours. The important thing is to not feel discouraged from reporting. If there's ever a case you think wont be handled effectively by the automated systems, you can feel free to submit a ticket directly to [Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) (use the "Report a player for cheating, phishing, or negative behavior" option) to trigger a manual review (they wont be able to discuss the results, however). So far as your behaviour is concerned, it's probably something you'll need to deal with going forward if you want to keep that account. The important thing there is to try and find a way to deal with these situations that doesn't involve acting out in-game. Some simple things that can help you keep from tilting as hard can include taking a break between games, 5-10 minutes to grab a drink, get a snack and cool down can help, also means you're less likely to encounter the same player twice in a row. If you're on a losing streak, take a longer break, 30-60 minutes, or maybe even overnight or something, and you'll be able to come back with a cool head. Finding an outlet to release frustration can help as well, something that allows you to take that "energy" and put it into something where it's not going to affect anyone else. It could be something physical like doing a bit of excessive, or hitting a punching bag a few times, maybe something artistic like drawing or painting, or maybe something intellectual like puzzles, riddles or even chess. You can try a few different things and see what works for you. Ultimately, better to find a way to prevent those kinds of outburst than to do nothing and lose the account because of someone else doing the wrong thing.
Skizzik (OCE)
: Ive been hacked and perma banned!
You'll need to submit an account recovery ticket to [Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) (use the "Recover my account" option, you'll need to be logged out to do so). They'll have to ask you a series of questions to help verify you're the original account user, you shouldn't need to answer all of them, just enough to prove beyond any reasonable doubt (any info about the account not accessible through Riot or 3rd party services will help). Ideally they'll be able to verify you as the original account user and deal with any punishments that have occurred due to the compromise, however it may be harder for them to do so considering you haven't played in a while (it means less recent data about you to help them). You might also want to consider checking any important accounts (banks, emails etc) for security, particularly any using the same email as your LoL account, just in case. You can also check out the website https://haveibeenpwned.com/ as it is a great resource to help track down any compromises.
: Hello I have the same issue, hacked.. someone played 3 games of ranked with yasuo. Waiting for someone to respond to my ticket. I looked at the recover account form and I made this account before you had to even verify email so I just used a temporary address I can't remember, don't think I will be able to get it back.
First things first, you'll definitely want to try and deal with the compromise. I don't think you'll *need* to access the original email during that, as you should be able to communicate through the address you've used for this case while dealing with the issue (and you should be able to verify yourself as the original account user without original the email). Running an anti-virus scan on any personal computers, checking any important accounts and checking out https://haveibeenpwned.com/ can be a good way to ensure the compromise is not a widespread issue for you. So far as dealing with the email issue, you can attempt to get that changed by contacting https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new (use the "Account management, data requests, or deletion" option), and hopefully they'll be able to get that changed for you without too much fuss. Again, though, probably best to try and deal with the compromise first, just to make sure no one else is able to access the account.
leniwykotpl (EUNE)
: I have this same bug. Don't know what to do exacly{{item:3070}}
So there's been a fair few people experiencing the same issue, with the arena skins not being usable immediately after unlocking. Generally, they seem to become available within about 24 hours, so it may just be a matter of being patient. If you still haven't got access to them within about 24 hours of unlocking them, you should submit a ticket to [Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) and let them know about the issue, and hopefully they'll be able to help.
OhDeer (OCE)
: Perma Ban
The only way to successfully appeal a ban is if it was made in error, either in a situation where no punishment should have been issued, or a less severe punishment should have been issued. Depending on the reason for the ban (should come up in the reform card and in the email regarding the ban), you should have received *at least* a 14-day ban prior (specific exceptions include 3rd party software, charge-backs and security bans). You *wont* be able to get a refund for any money spent on the account. You can feel free to appeal by submitting a ticket to [Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) (use the "Discuss a personal suspension or restriction" option), but whether they change anything depends on the specific circumstances of your case.
Joyb22 (OCE)
: Permanently banned caused by being hacked
In order to recover the account, you'll need to head over to [Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) and submit a ticket using the "Recover my account" option (you'll need to be logged out to do so). They'll go through the process with you, which will include a series of questions relating to the account to verify you're the original user. You wont have to answer all of them, just enough to prove beyond reasonable doubt (any info not accessible through Riot or 3rd party services will also help with that). If they're able to verify you're the original account user, they should be able to track down the compromise and remove any punishments that triggered off that. I'd recommend running an anti-virus scan on any personal computers you have used recently, just to be sure (probably wont reveal anything, but wont hurt either), as well as looking into any important accounts (emails, banks etc) just to make sure they're secure and aren't being affected by the same or similar compromises. The website https://haveibeenpwned.com/ is a great way to help track down compromises, so checking that out might be a good idea as well.
Jason (OCE)
: Over a week waiting on a support ticket... Hey, can I get an assist?
Since it's a case of possible compromise, I'd definitely recommend running an anti-virus scan on any personal computers you use if you haven't already. If you've used any computers belonging to friends/family recently it would also be a good idea to recommend they do the same. Better to be safe than sorry. Quick note; I'd personally recommend Malwarebytes Anti-Malware (free version) for manual scans, as it tends to pick up things that other anti-virus software miss in my experience, but up to you. You should also look into any important accounts (emails, banks etc) just to make sure they're secure and aren't being affected by the same or similar compromises. The website https://haveibeenpwned.com/ is a great way to help track down compromises, so checking that out might be a good idea as well.
DËMISE (OCE)
: Expansion of server capacity
I'd imagine that Riot is just giving it a bit of time to see if the trend holds. You have to consider that upgrading the server's capacity is a big undertaking, and they'll want to be confident that it's actually warranted before going through with it (and also keep in mind, no *definite* word yet as to whether TFT will stay on the permanent roster). As it stands, we've had TFT for less than a week, and the beta and ranked releases for the mode (coupled with the fact the Arcade event is currently running) are likely causing an increased amount of players to jump on. I've been playing a bit of TFT myself and noticed more than a few low level accounts (level 1's in particular) getting into the mode, so it does seem to be attracting extra players currently, but whether that's a *long-term* trend isn't going to be evident just yet. Bit of a side note: the fact that we're getting actual login queues for OCE could be a good sign anyway. If it is a long-term trend, it means the server's population will be going up, and Riot *may* decide to adjust the queue schedule accordingly, such as making normal draft and ranked flex full-time, and bringing TT onto a more regular schedule.
: Can't Get TFT Beta Pass Rewards
Getting the same issue myself. Just unlocked the map skins and they're still showing up as locked in lobby. It *might* just be that it's taking several hours to actually become available after it's unlocked (sometimes happens with other loot/rewards), so it may just be a matter of waiting for a while. If nothing's changed tomorrow, it would be prudent to submit a ticket to [Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) and see if they can help out.
: Team fight tactics release live
Generally Riot doesn't give specific times/dates for this kind of stuff within the "release patch", but it usually is either upon completion of patch maintenance (about 8am AEST tomorrow morning for OCE, barring any unexpected issues, as per [Service Status page](https://status.leagueoflegends.com/?en_AU#oce) .) or within a few days of the patch going live if Riot wants to sync up the release across all the servers. If TFT isn't available upon completion of the patch maintenance, there *might* be information provided at that point that states a more specific time frame, but probably the best you'll get is "within a few days" (and that's not 100% either, but is usually accurate).
Vortuka (OCE)
: TFT Patch
As per the [Service Status page](https://status.leagueoflegends.com/?en_AU#oce), patch maintenance should start around 5am AEST tomorrow morning, and is expected to take about 3 hours, meaning the server should be back up about 8am AEST tomorrow morning (barring any unexpected issues). That said, I don't believe there's any indication anywhere of when during patch 9.13 TFT will actually become available. It might be available as soon as the server is back up, or Riot might intend to sync up the release time with other servers, in which case we'll have to wait longer, possibly a couple of days or so. Might be more information regarding it's release date/time once the patch goes live, if it's not already available at that point.
Nightjar (OCE)
: NB3 still playing the same account, not banned, so maybe chat restricted or warned? but also possible no punishment was issued. Stream targetting is griefing, I didn't see that on his ticket and I don't remember him saying that, but it definitely sound like something he'd do. In which case more clarity would have probably been wiser from Riot in addressing this issue. There's absolutely nothing in the Summoners Code saying you cannot play something off meta or powerfarm and there's nothing say Communicating an off meta strat is required though it is encouraged (see Riot's 2016 Debacle where they proved they were stuck up arrogant asshats who couldn't admit their fault) .
> [{quoted}](name=Nightjar,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=z9tuNHiV,comment-id=00000000000000010000000000000000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-22T01:21:20.338+0000) > > I feel like that's just community pressure, Riot probably never intended to punish NB3, but I'm still happy that justice was meted out. Yeh, it does seem a bit like that's what happened. 12 days to deal with something like this (which should normally take about 15 minutes) is a bit ridiculous, and somewhat undermines the act itself. Riot should have been quicker to act, and there are several events during this situation that could have played out differently if they did. Sometimes we just have to accept that the collective efforts of the community can be a great way to force Riot (or whatever dev/publisher the situation may be about) to take action when they rightfully should, and ultimately I'm glad to see this resolution.
Nightjar (OCE)
: NB3 still playing the same account, not banned, so maybe chat restricted or warned? but also possible no punishment was issued. Stream targetting is griefing, I didn't see that on his ticket and I don't remember him saying that, but it definitely sound like something he'd do. In which case more clarity would have probably been wiser from Riot in addressing this issue. There's absolutely nothing in the Summoners Code saying you cannot play something off meta or powerfarm and there's nothing say Communicating an off meta strat is required though it is encouraged (see Riot's 2016 Debacle where they proved they were stuck up arrogant asshats who couldn't admit their fault) .
> [{quoted}](name=Nightjar,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=z9tuNHiV,comment-id=0000000000000001000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-21T07:41:07.071+0000) > > NB3 still playing the same account, not banned, so maybe chat restricted or warned? but also possible no punishment was issued. Actually, NightBlue3 has since been banned (within the last few hours, it seems), with a 14-day suspension no less. It shouldn't have taken Riot the 12 days to issue a punishment (ideally, the IFS *should* have been able to act with the usual 15 minute span, at least with a chat restriction), but NB3 now has the consequences to those actions. https://twitter.com/Nightbloo/status/1141963162360545280
F4R W3ST (OCE)
: Unequal access to PBE
So to be clear, you shouldn't be getting moved back in queue, however Riot did state that there is a *visual* issue with the "time estimate" and "position in queue" stats, which may make it *seem* like that's happening. Should still retain your position in queue, but it isn't displaying that properly. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/156853827079766016/591153981959569447/unknown.png
: > TLDR Nubrac got banned for griefing consistently and repeatedly. It would have happened sooner or later, NB3 just sped up the process by pursuing the issue with Riot, which any player can do. Yet they can't ban other who do the same? Which goes back to OPs original statement, only streamers can get others banned.
> [{quoted}](name=Exarch Leona,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=z9tuNHiV,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-06-20T04:17:51.601+0000) > > Yet they can't ban other who do the same? > Which goes back to OPs original statement, only streamers can get others banned. It's a bit more complicated than that. You'll likely find that all the OCE volunteers agree that the systems in place for gameplay offences just aren't as good as they should be, and that's something Riot needs to address (presumably they are, but there's no info on that as far as I know, and a lot of players feel it's just worse now than when the Tribunal was available). The systems that *are* in place either take too long to act, or just don't figure it out, and in that sense it's very important for players to follow up any gameplay issues through "higher escalations" methods (such as submitting a ticket to support) to help the process along. It's fundamentally because of a flaw in Riot's systems, but players shouldn't claim it doesn't work if they don't take the effort to help it work. Even in this case with Nubrac, the system in place *just didn't get it*. The situation was misread as nothing more than a case of a player going off-meta when the situation was more complex than that, and as a result we now have a high-profile situation that is just flooding the boards and Reddit and such with misinformation and half-truths, a situation that likely could have been avoided if Riot's systems and policies were up to scratch. It's not that "*only* streamers can get players banned", it's that the systems in place are fundamentally flawed, and it takes significantly more effort to get results because of that, effort which NB3 actually took, while many other players simply wouldn't consider it because of a belief that "it wont work".
Nightjar (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=HeartVine,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=z9tuNHiV,comment-id=00000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-06-18T10:18:13.641+0000) > > Something such as "AFK farming" is *definitely* a punishable offence, >If you were to do it consistently in-game, you'd more than likely receive a ban for that behaviour, and whether you *believe* that or not does not change the fact that it *is* against the rules. You are not *obliged* to actively communicate in *every single game* > Your opinions and beliefs do not change the established rules. err so in summary, lategame champions, splitpushing, master Yi, Kayle and all hyperfarm champions are illegal and playing them means you are the scum of league of legends and need to be banned then? when I play and there's a yi jungle, I do NOT want him trying to gank before lvl5. I'd rather he not take that risk, early Yi ganks suck without a tonne of setup, and most the time you just lose xp and map pressure and no benefit is gained. If I have a nasus top, I don't want to see him trying to gank my midlaner and him losing a wave, I want him to keep farming and pushing and generating pressure. Why would stacking champions exist if not to... you know... the thing they're designed to do... afk farm and stack? He might not have communicated in the best way, but he maintained an approx 50% winrate over more than 400 games with support teemo in high elo. Which indicates that at some level, it worked, and he definitely tried to win, no matter how counter intuitive, I or, or any other player thinks his strategy is, you can't deny that statistically it was viable. Also team communication isn't essential, it helps most of the time, but also some of the best games I've played, nobody has needed to ping anything, people already knew what I wanted them to do, because after all these years, you cannot deny that anyone in any decent elo will have learnt the basics of this game. I, like many others in the community do not look kindly on favoritism, and I think a discussion highlighting this to riot is very valid. We all have ways to play and you shouldn't get special privilege for being a streamer that allows you to play say offmeta jungle maokai, but a regular player is punitively banned for trying the same. I don't think I'll change your mind but I at least want to state that Riot is at very minimum morally wrong for showing elective favoritism.
> [{quoted}](name=Nightjar,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=z9tuNHiV,comment-id=000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-19T07:32:22.100+0000) > > err so in summary, lategame champions, splitpushing, master Yi, Kayle and all hyperfarm champions are illegal and playing them means you are the scum of league of legends and need to be banned then? No, and that's a completely ridiculous way of interpreting my statement. One of the *fundamental* aspects of "AFK farming" is the concept of being "in essence" AFK, which is *heavily* implied by it's name. Something like taking a whole match to just farm neutral monsters, for example, *is* AFK farming and *is* against the rules, because it effectively creates a 4v5 situation. The examples you've listed are generally based around *shot-term* farming designed at bring about power spikes to better contribute to the team, and *don't* fall under the category of "AFK farming". > Also team communication isn't essential And at no point have I denied that. That said, the act of ***REFUSING*** to communicate *is* punishable. As I said in my previous comment, you are not obliged to communicate in every single game, but that doesn't mean that you can blatantly refuse to communicate and leave your team in the dark. In particular, situations where a player goes heavily off-meta is the *perfect* example of this going into practice, because not communicating in such a situation is actively working against the team. Communicating your strategy and being open to feedback about it is what you *should* do. For one thing, it will provide the team with a chance to adapt to the strategy from the start (even if they don't agree with it), rather than, for example, letting them think they'll have a support in a traditionally 2v2 lane just for you to leave them in a 1v2 situation that they can't handle with their champion and/or skill. > I, like many others in the community do not look kindly on favoritism, and *I think a discussion highlighting this to riot is very valid*. We agree on that point. No one is saying that these kinds of discussions aren't valid, or that the opinions of players aren't valid, but *fundamentally* that does not *change* the established rules. Those rules still exist as they have and likely will continue to regardless of personal opinion on them. You can discuss those opinions freely, you can advocate for change based on those opinions, but simply having those opinions doesn't change the established rules, or mean they don't apply. > We all have ways to play and you shouldn't get special privilege for being a streamer that allows you to play say offmeta jungle maokai, but a regular player is punitively banned for trying the same. Then you and I must have *very* different experiences with using off-meta strategies. Personally, I've never had an issue using off-meta strategies, though I have seen many players claim the opposite. That *might* have something to do with how different players address that kind of situation, however, and fundamentally what kind of mentality those players are taking into the match with how their ideas will be perceived. Something as simple as just communicating your ideas and intentions with the team, in a positive manner, and choosing a different strategy if they're not keen on it can make all the difference in how those players respond to those ideas (both shot and long term), as opposed to simply saying nothing and doing whatever you want every time regardless of how it affects your team mates. Communicating those ideas also gives those players a better idea of how such strategies work, which may make them more comfortable with having someone use such a strategy in that match, or another match in the future. Ultimately, it seems that the main issue in how players are *generally* addressing such issues is to ignore the rules and just do whatever they want, which is punishable because of how it negatively affects hundreds of other players. My point is, it's likely that many of these players are experiencing issues not because of the "off-meta strategy" in and of itself, but how they attempt to utilise those strategies and their attitudes and behaviours in doing so. Then they get banned for abusing another player, for example, and just *assume* it's because they were playing off-meta, when that isn't the point of contention in the situation. Riot does need to take actions in a way that is as unbiased as possible, that is something I think we can all agree on, but one thing I think players need to keep in mind is that they can't use things that *aren't* punishable (such as "off-meta") as a platform for things that *are* punishable (such as griefing) and expect to get away with it, whether that's what they've intended to do or not, and they need to stop misinterpreting and misrepresenting those situations. I think one aspect of that is that many players don't have a more definitive idea of what is against the rules, and I think Riot could try to be a bit more clear on that (I believe the "reporting a player" support page used to be a lot more clear on that than it is now, which is unfortunate). Ultimately, though, Riot can only go so far to make it all work, the players have to come the rest of the way.
: > [{quoted}](name=HeartVine,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=z9tuNHiV,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T06:04:09.025+0000) > > You do, though. Communicating is an actual requirement in-game, and barring unusual circumstances (such as largely off-meta strategies that require effective communication to work properly) such communication is possible entirely using pings. No, you don't. If I don't want to help my team, I don't have to. If I want to mute them and their pings and AFK farm the jungle, I can. It's not a bannable offence. 10 hours is still a short time for a ticket when it takes Riot 4 days to respond to my reports about people who run it down. Also, NB3 made the report while in-game. He typed it while playing. You know, AFKing?
> [{quoted}](name=Broken Scripts,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=z9tuNHiV,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-18T08:59:16.750+0000) > > If I want to ... AFK farm the jungle, I can. It's not a bannable offence. That's incorrect. Something such as "AFK farming" is *definitely* a punishable offence, because it is something that is actively working against your team. If you were to do it consistently in-game, you'd more than likely receive a ban for that behaviour, and whether you *believe* that or not does not change the fact that it *is* against the rules. You are not *obliged* to actively communicate in *every single game*, but if you consistently *refuse* to communicate, that *is* punishable. Your opinions and beliefs do not change the established rules. > 10 hours is still a short time for a ticket when it takes Riot 4 days to respond to my reports about people who run it down. That 10 hours is something that occurred *beyond* the ticket, when NB3 contacted Zephyr directly. The only reason NB3 did so is because the ticket itself had *NOT* shown results for two full days. Believe it or not, but *you* also have the ability to do the same, and contact Rioters directly should you be unsatisfied with Support. In fact, if you find that Support is consistently failing cases you bring to them, I would personally recommend you pursue those cases in other ways. In saying that, you should keep in mind that very few Rioters will put up with that if you bring them *every* player you have a minor disagreement with. Try and keep that kind of escalation to the stuff that *needs* to be escalated. > Also, NB3 made the report while in-game. He typed it while playing. You know, AFKing? Yes, and he should be punished for his behaviour in-game, that was never in dispute (you can find that I said basically the same thing in my original comment). It's also important to consider that he was in a situation where he honestly felt his time was better spent submitting that report than trying to play that game for several reasons, including the fact that 2 of his team mates were already AFK, and another was actively griefing. Fundamentally, that does not make NB3's behaviour any more acceptable, but I do *understand* why he chose to take that action at that point, and if I'm being completely honest, I might have done the same thing given the same circumstances (specifically regarding the "submitting a report while still in-game" thing, not his other behaviour).
: > [{quoted}](name=HeartVine,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=z9tuNHiV,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-18T03:44:51.779+0000) > > The bottom line regarding Nubrac is that he was consistently griefing other players, a behaviour that can (and likely will) get any other player banned. You can refer to [this statement by WookieeCookie on Reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/c0m449/nightblue3_gets_his_teammate_banned_for_playing/er61hxj/) for the explanation, but the basic situation is that Nubrac was intentionally griefing consistently and repeatedly (he admits as much in his stream), blatantly refusing to communicate with his teams (which is a breach of the rules in and of itself), using the whole "off-meta" thing as an attempt to shield himself from the consequences (basically, attempting to circumvent the rules), specifically targeting streamers with this behaviour, and consistently and repeatedly reported for those behaviours. > > Riot initially reviewed the case 3 weeks or so prior to the ban, and backed off because they saw "off-meta" on the surface and didn't want to harass a player just for playing off-meta. It's reasonable to say that Nubrac's intention was to simply "expose his image" to become more popular, regardless of how it affects other players or the community. > > The match including NightBlue3 was basically the tipping point, where NB3 pursued the issue further by submitting a ticket to support (which ***ANY*** player can do) and, when that didn't turn up results, pursued the issue further again by contacting a Rioter directly (again, something ***ANY*** player can do). NB3's behaviour isn't any more acceptable than Nubrac's, they were ***BOTH*** in the wrong, and the Rioter employee who reviewed the case was simply *doing their job*. I don't know what Riot is going to do about NB3, last I heard they were still reviewing his case, but I personally hope he gets *at least* a "next tier" punishment. > > ---- > > #***TLDR*** Nubrac got banned for griefing consistently and repeatedly. It would have happened sooner or later, NB3 just sped up the process by pursuing the issue with Riot, which any player can do. But his strat was viable and it worked. It got Irelia a lead. The guy is also highly ranked with a positive win ratio. This is proxy singed all over again. It's a stupid ban and only went through because streamers cried. Nightblue was AFK for 1 minute and 30 seconds typing his report in the fountain instead of playing. Where is his punishment? He single-handily lost that game. That was an instant ban, too. He didn't fill out a report, he contacted a staff member directly. You don't have to communicate with your team. You can legit mute everyone at the start of the game. Also, WookieeCookie has no idea of how the rules work. Anything that person posts is null and void because they are clueless. lol. No point playing nanything but meta these days, tbh. Disregard the fact that people rbeaking the meta has changed the game.
> But his strat was viable and it worked. You're missing the point. Nubrac's "strat" is not the main point of contention here, his *intention* is, and it's been made clear that his *intention* was to grief other players by using "off-meta" as a platform for such behaviour and a shield to protect himself from the consequences. It doesn't matter if the strat itself works, because it's not about the strat. > That was an instant ban, too. No, it wasn't. It took *three days* for the ban to be issued *after* the game in question. You can see the game itself [here on Nubrac's twitch channel (time-frame 4 hours 58 minutes)](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/436538419?t=04h58m15s) which occurred on the 8th of June (which you can see here on his match history: https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/3062531855/41863402?tab=overview ), and you can see the moment he received the ban [here also on his twitch channel (time-frame 53 minutes)](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/438067393?t=00h53m13s) which occurred on the 12th of June. > He didn't fill out a report NightBlyue3 did, at the end of the match in question when he had 2 team mates AFK in base from all the bullshit, he used his time to submit a ticket to Support. You can see his perspective of the game on [his twitch channel here (time-frame 32 minutes)](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/436591028?t=00h32m07s). If you refer to the[ screenshot of the discord conversation between NB3 and Zephyr](https://imgur.com/a/dVw6HcF#YEwGir7) that is circulating, it becomes evident that that conversation occurred at 4am (their local time) the morning of June 12th and, as per Nubrac's twitch vids, you can see the ban wasn't applied for approximately 10 hours (around 2pm on June 12th, their local time), also evidence that it wasn't an "instant ban" as you and so many others claim. > You don't have to communicate with your team. You do, though. Communicating is an actual requirement in-game, and barring unusual circumstances (such as largely off-meta strategies that require effective communication to work properly) such communication is possible entirely using pings.
: Wait, streamers can get people banned?
The bottom line regarding Nubrac is that he was consistently griefing other players, a behaviour that can (and likely will) get any other player banned. You can refer to [this statement by WookieeCookie on Reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/c0m449/nightblue3_gets_his_teammate_banned_for_playing/er61hxj/) for the explanation, but the basic situation is that Nubrac was intentionally griefing consistently and repeatedly (he admits as much in his stream), blatantly refusing to communicate with his teams (which is a breach of the rules in and of itself), using the whole "off-meta" thing as an attempt to shield himself from the consequences (basically, attempting to circumvent the rules), specifically targeting streamers with this behaviour, and consistently and repeatedly reported for those behaviours. Riot initially reviewed the case 3 weeks or so prior to the ban, and backed off because they saw "off-meta" on the surface and didn't want to harass a player just for playing off-meta. It's reasonable to say that Nubrac's intention was to simply "expose his image" to become more popular, regardless of how it affects other players or the community. The match including NightBlue3 was basically the tipping point, where NB3 pursued the issue further by submitting a ticket to support (which ***ANY*** player can do) and, when that didn't turn up results, pursued the issue further again by contacting a Rioter directly (again, something ***ANY*** player can do). NB3's behaviour isn't any more acceptable than Nubrac's, they were ***BOTH*** in the wrong, and the Rioter who reviewed the case was simply *doing their job*. I don't know what Riot is going to do about NB3, last I heard they were still reviewing his case, but I personally hope he gets *at least* a "next tier" punishment. ---- #***TLDR*** Nubrac got banned for griefing consistently and repeatedly. It would have happened sooner or later, NB3 just sped up the process by pursuing the issue with Riot, which any player can do.
: ARAM selected Champion unowned and not in free-rotation
While Janna is not in *this* weeks free rotation, she is in the free rotation from 2 weeks ago, and since ARAM uses the 3 most recent free rotations (rather than *just* the current week's) it makes sense for Janna to be a possible pick.
: 9 Months and no word of Nexus Blitz
The most recent word on Nexus Blitz was from the most recent run of the mode (about 2-3 months ago), where Riot basically stated that they were no longer looking to add it to the permanent rotation (for the foreseeable future), and just bring it back occasionally during events (this is mainly due to the fact players weren't being engaged in Nexus Blitz without goals [missions] to achieve). You can read all about it here: https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-au/2019/04/dev-nexus-blitz-wrap-up/
: CAN I GET BANNED FOR TRASH TALKING MY IRL FRIEND AND SWEARING TO HIM?
It depends a lot more on the situation than anything else really. Using team/all chat does provide a bit of risk with this, though it usually depends on how far you take it and the players you are with (specifically, how inclined they are to report). You'll definitely want to avoid any zero tolerance behaviours (racism, sexism, homophobia, suicide encouragement etc.). So far as swearing goes, it's not an issue in and of itself (people can turn on the profanity filter if they don't want to see swearing), but it does become an issue when "directed" (for example "fuck you" or "fuck off" could be problematic). It probably wouldn't help if any punishments were to occur, but you could both try informing the other players in-game that you are friends and it's just being used as banter, which might make them less inclined to report (again, probably wont change the outcome of any reports). Honestly, in a situation like this, I think the best thing you could do is use some alternate method of communicating, such as private messages (which you can use in-game via "whispers"), or some kind of VoIP program. It means you can just say whatever and Riot either wont do anything (because it's a private convo) or they wont have jurisdiction (they can't police what happens in a private Discord/Teamspeak server, for example).
Fos (EUNE)
: Didn't receive the little demon Tristana icon.
One of the requirements for receiving the Little Demon Tristana icon is that you had to participate in the vote for Tristana's next skin (the vote occurred about 3 months ago, I believe). If you believe you should have received the icon but didn't, you can feel free to submit a ticket to [Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) and see if they can help.
Justin0 (OCE)
: Is it possible to get a permaban reverted?
The only way to get a punishment removed is if it was made in error (either a punishment shouldn't have occurred, or a lower tier punishment should have occurred). The standard appeal process is to submit a ticket to Support, which should trigger a manual review and get a response. There is an extremely low rate of false positives, however, so the chance of getting a punishment removed is negligible. If you want, you can provide details regarding the punishment on the boards (what category it fits into, any evidence provided by Riot such as chat logs or match history links, what's been said by support etc), which will allow boards users (volunteers in particular) to provide guidance on how to proceed (and the likelihood of actually getting the punishment removed). Without any of the details, however, you wont be able to get any assistance through the boards, which means your only option would be to handle the situation through Support. It's important to note that we can't actually change anything about the punishments players receive, all we can do is provide information and guidance, so your only real chance of getting the punishment removed is still Support.
Justin0 (OCE)
: Player support Bot
Generally, Blitzcrank Bot will only deal with clear-cut cases, the things that are simple and straightforward (requesting account data is a good example). In order to get a human support agent, you should only need to respond to the ticket (requesting a human agent certainly makes it clear what you want), and you should get a human support agent who is ready to address your case.
IIIIIIIII (OCE)
: BOT ACCOUNTS?
So it sounds like this might be a compromise, in which case there's a few things you'll want to do. You'll want to submit an Account Recovery ticket to [Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) (use the "Recover my account" option, you'll need to be logged out to do so) to make sure that the compromise is being looked at and the account remains secure. They'll ask you a series of questions about the account to verify you're the original account user, you don't have to answer all of them, just enough to verify who you are (any information that can't be accessed through the account, Riot services, or 3rd party services will help). They will also issue a "Security Ban" on the account to make sure no other actions can be taken until it's been properly secured. You'll want to change your password ASAP, and I'd recommend changing the password of the registered email address as well. You should also run a scan using any anti-virus software you have on any computers you use regularly, just to check for anything like keyloggers that may be the cause of the compromise (personally, I'd recommend Malwarebytes Anti-Malware free version for running manual scans, as it tends to pick up more than other anti-virus programs in my experience, but up to you). If you do find anything from those scans, you'll want to go through and secure any accounts (particularly banks, emails etc) that have been used on that computer recently. I'd also recommend checking out https://haveibeenpwned.com/ as it is a great resource for finding accounts that have been compromised. It's got a large database to check against, and it can really help track down all the accounts you need to secure. If you need any additional assistance, feel free to ask.
: holy shit, you are 1 billion times more toxic in 1 game than my 2 accounts that JUST got perm banned. i dont understand this bullshit at all. mine also said it was from player review, less than 30 seconds AFTER THE LAST GAME PLAYED! like wtf? thats gotta be a lie right? its like they forget this is OCE and has AUSTRALIA here. swearing is the first thing kids are bloody taught!
> [{quoted}](name=KingDinger,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=9gEslorJ,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-06-02T08:37:10.193+0000) > > its like they forget this is OCE and has AUSTRALIA here. swearing is the first thing kids are bloody taught! Speaking as an Aussie who was taught swearing as a kid, there's a very distinct difference between fucking swearing and being toxic. If you're parents didn't teach you the difference, they sound like bad parents.
: Hacked Account
Seras covered the account recovery process, so I wont go into that (note, the account will receive a "security ban" until everything is sorted out with Support, just to make sure no additional changes are made while that's all happening). Just a couple notes, I'd recommend running an anti-virus scan on any personal/family/friend computers you have played LoL on recently (personally, I'd recommend Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, as the free program does tend to pick up stuff that other anti-virus programs don't in my experience, but up to you). It's possible that this was the result of a keylogger or similar program getting onto your computer, so just a good move to check that, and secure any important stuff like emails, bank accounts etc. Secondly, you should check out https://haveibeenpwned.com/ as that will give you a pretty good idea if anything else has been compromised online. It doesn't have a complete database, but it's still a great resource for figuring out if your accounts have been compromised.
Voxin (OCE)
: RP purchase history
To get to the RP purchase history, you'll need to go to the "Account" options in the store (small circular icon on the top and far right next to "Gifting Centre" and "Purchase RP"), then select the "Purchase History" option on the left and the "RP Purchase History" should show up below that.
: Will I get punished for someone else's actions on my account?
If there's no history of account sharing on the account, and you're the original account user, you should be pretty much right, as whoever handles the case should be able to distinguish between games you've played and games that were played by someone else during a compromise, and subsequently any punishments that would have come from another persons actions would be removed. You'll still need to go through the Account Recovery process as normal, but generally whoever is the original account user is able to verify enough info with the Support staff to confirm they are the original account user. You might also want to run an anti virus scan on any computers you use regularly (personally, I'd recommend Malwarebytes Anti-Malware for manual scans, as it tends to pick up more than other anti virus software in my experience, but up to you), check out https://haveibeenpwned.com/ to see if there's any indication of compromises on others services you use, and just generally check security on the really important stuff (like emails, bank accounts etc).
: > [{quoted}](name=HeartVine,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=hzup1m2Q,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-18T06:48:05.163+0000) > > > > Firstly, it's my understanding that a single use of zero-tolerance language wont *necessarily* escalate to a ban, as it doesn't indicate any consistency for the behaviour. It can often escalate when grouped in with other behaviours, but generally "single use" cases are walking the line. fair enough but that does kinda contradict what has been stated here in the past and contradicts the term 'zero-tolerance'.
It's also important to consider that *everyone* can have a slight outburst from time to time, even the best behaved members of a community are prone to that, and I think that's why it makes sense for it to be like that. After all, if it's a *single* statement that is being looked at over a period of several months and/or several dozen games then it would be a bit harsh to escalate to a 14-day ban if the person in question had never been punished before. A chat restriction, sure, but a ban in that kind of scenario would be a bit of an overreaction, just because it could happen to *anyone* as a singular, abnormal act. Like I said though, that's my understanding of the system, and I'm not entirely sure if it does work *exactly* like that. You can feel free to ask via Support, but I'm not sure what they'll be inclined to tell you on that.
: So what happened to certain no tolerance language escalating to either 14day suspension or perm ban?
As far as I know, Riot's stance hasn't changed, nor has anything changed about how the systems in place deal with this kind of behaviour. A few things to consider, however. Firstly, it's my understanding that a single use of zero-tolerance language wont *necessarily* escalate to a ban, as it doesn't indicate any consistency for the behaviour. It can often escalate when grouped in with other behaviours, but generally "single use" cases are walking the line. Secondly, the system isn't perfect (no system is), so it's possible that it could miss things from time to time, and if you feel like the standard post-game report isn't sufficient, you can feel free to submit a ticket to [Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) directly. Lastly, while the IFS notifications are a great feature, there's a couple important details to keep in mind about them. For one thing, they were never designed to notify more than one person, only sending out a notification based on the *most recent* report that contributed to a punishment, and it even seems like the system fails to do that on more than a few occasions. Point being, a lack of the IFS notification doesn't indicate a lack of punishment. One final note; you shouldn't feel like you *have* to report a behaviour just because it's something Riot punishes. A large part of how "punishable behaviour" is determined comes down to how the community *reports* behaviours in-game (beyond their normal functions, reports are essentially used by Riot as feedback on what kinds of behaviours the community doesn't want to see). It's always good to help identify punishable behaviours, but if it's something you don't feel *needs* to be punished you should also consider that in how you choose to utilise the report system.
: 6 number digit thread
Is this specifically regarding using tokens to get BE directly? If so, then one thing to consider is that Riot used to support that a lot more than they do now. Between having options for using more tokens in one go (I believe you could exchange 50 at a time at one point), and having a higher exchange rate (I believe it peaked at 1 token to 10 BE), it certainly seems that Riot is moving *away* from supporting that. Personally, I don't like what Riot have done with that, but I also don't think there's going to be enough feedback from the community wanting this stuff back.
KriZx (OCE)
: Yuumi - Release date?
As per the patch notes, Yuumi will be released during patch 9.10 (which we are currently in). Generally, new champs become available a day or two after the patch goes live, though patch 9.10 has gone live a day earlier than normal so there *may* be other differences beyond the norm.
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