Rioter Comments
: Patch 8.4 notes
Relic Shield line seriously? As if its not hard as it already. This new runes system is much harder for tank supports than the previous system. Even generating gold with an actual support tank like Leona can be tough. Example. (Relic shield line works when you basically last hit a minion using this item and a friendly champ being close by at the time. You heal your friend and you gain gold. How nice. Come late game when just about every other player can one shot minions and there is a huge feast on for cs and your're trying to get that one last hit to gain gold plus if Relic Shield Line passive is active not only do you get the gold so does the next friendly champ next to you up to 4 minions. But everyone else just kills them right before you get your last hit.) Can we possibly think about having only items for support champs. Doesn't matter who you pick it's the support role that's being filled. But I guess it will make certain champs more op being one of two who can use them. At the moment when you view a champion it just says for Leona Magic Style Difficulty and a few other stuff but that's it. Give champion a role. Main role then a secondary role and if a champion has support in either main or secondary then only those champions can play support role. Just a thought.
Rioter Comments
Bookbash (OCE)
: So, still wanna duo? Edit: Guess not eh? This guy duoed with me for five games recently - we won all five (I might add - in a row). Then I go to watch him play a game and he says "don't talk to me during a game or I'll delete you from friend's list". So I didn't talk to him any more during the game. But I was deleted. Here's my advice buddy: show some common decency, and quit your whining. You've won a few game also to go with the losses.
Jesus man i don't know you, were not friends . Don't take it to hart. I'f i know someone is watching me play it puts me off i don't play as well as i should. Please don't reply otherwise people may thing were a married couple
Hirudora (OCE)
: A Typical Match In Lol
I hope i'm not the only one but does anyone have bad luck with duo bot players, i mean over the years i'v had a lot of duo bot matches, not me other people and i always get the fail duo bots everytime.
Hirudora (OCE)
: A Typical Match In Lol
Would you believe it hahahaha, i won my first match today, that is five games 1 win. I was GangPlank Support, hey they had Azir support so i was like F it i'll go someone with decent poke and has heals and our bot lane owned. So funny clicking on GP for the first time in like two years or so his voice just cracked me up lmao
Maraudaur (OCE)
: There was an issue with the boards this morning but it has since been fixed, your profile and the sort options should be visible at the top now! You can also view your past posts by clicking on your profile(summoner icon) at the top right hand side. http://puu.sh/fg1Xj/88a3d5d8b3.jpg
Hirudora (OCE)
: A Typical Match In Lol
Fourth game, lost. Top mid and bot all fed and lost. Not one tower was taken. I was Jungler ganked bot and mid the most because they needed more help. i solo dragon at lvl 6 or 7. Singed was top lane verse GP, I have never ever lost once to Gang Plank top lane he is so easy to beat using Panth or Garen Darius Fiora but oh well. We had fizz mid which could not solo Kat so she got fed. I was unlucky to have yet again a skillful team.
Hirudora (OCE)
: A Typical Match In Lol
Third game lost, i was 8/0 before i got killed. Basically our mid Akali had no experience with her i could just tell by watching, stuff like, enemies were attacking our inhibitor and by the time i told Akali to throw her bubble down over them so they couldn't see she ulted in and insta dead. Ryze was top lane he fed jax early while Akali fed Ahri mid early, our jungler Lee Sin was 1/7 at one stage and our support thresh did ok early game to set me up with kills but lacked the ability to ward in situations to prevent surprise ganks while we dragon, which i solo 3 times. End score doesn't seem that bad but my team fed early and wasn't able to make a come back. That's 3/3 losses today
Hirudora (OCE)
: A Typical Match In Lol
Played two games this morning lost both, first game was a good game overall, but this second game with zed mid and vayne top really was asking to fail. Zed mid for me fails yet again.
Maraudaur (OCE)
: Voting and sorting on the Boards
Hi, i don't have the option to sort by, i can't even find my own thread i think it's being removed it's less than a week old and i constantly update it. I'm pretty sure it's my computer and my settings is why i don't have sort by options as shown above. Any ideas ? And the show more tab at the bottom in boards doesn't work for me either, it doesn't show more haha.
Hirudora (OCE)
: A Typical Match In Lol
I'v been hearing a lot that heaps and heaps of players have dropped divisions, players from diamond to silver platinum to gold and lower. So i can only guess that at every new season when we play our placement matches we must be teamed up with all types of skill levels ? So if your're platinum you don't play with platinum players in your placement matches you play with who ever is on at the time no matter what rank they are ? Just a guess. The only reason this system would be put in place is to have players dropped, you know why ? let's take a guess Riot wants us to keep playing meaning we don't want to be stuck in a lower division so we play more to regain our division. At the moment i'm studying business, one thing we learnt is everything is from a business point of view, how to bring in new customers and how to keep your current customers. If platinum players only played with platinum's for placement matches there's a higher chance of being promoted to the next class and a lower chance of being demoted to the next division down. It prevents riot from having to create whole new divisions. Why ? because it costs money to develop new divisions. Why spend money for our pleasure when they could set a system that demotes us. League of Legends is a business, and i think that's the number one reason why new players can play rank. It costs more to attract new customers by promoting advertising etc, than it is to retain your existing customers. Word of mouth is the most powerful form of attracting new customers.
: If you like playing your support, then don't complain. Everyone has their preferred positions, and you tell everyone those preferences. People always try to fit everyone into their best spots, and pick order only exists if you are unable to do that. People are not as bad as you make them out to be, and I often end up in roles I want disregarding pick order. In fact, being at last pick as a mid or top is often advantageous as you can counter pick their team. If you are going around yelling fill in ranked, trying to be the nice guy, end up in a support position then lose since you are unable to carry, that's your fault. If you are above this skill level, then don't rely on your teammates, pick a position with power and then go carry yourself out of here since your team is lower than your skill level, and thus cannot carry you. Who the heck cares if your team got a free win from you, if they deserve to be that skill level, they will eventually drop back down anyways.
Then i can only hope that i get more people like you in my team that calls their lane and actually does a decent or if not a great job.
Bookbash (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Jinuku,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=I7faPlz5,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2015-01-28T22:19:55.047+0000) > > You talk about me being a leader and should learn to carry, i don't see anyone carrying me. Just replying to your previous comment. Don't ever expect anyone to carry you. Only weak minded people do that. I just gave some suggestions that you might like to try and see if you yourself could carry. You won't always be last pick, btw. If it is of any interest, i am nearly bronze IV ) And yes i'm on a losing streak like you. :)
Hi man, i'll always do my best, having a girlfriend, job friendships and even gaming i give it my all and learn to be a better player and friend. No matter what lane i go i do my best, when i'm support and were retreating back to base from enemy base i always ward behind us, i don't see that a lot. I don't expect people to carry me, it's just sad having unskilled players constantly. Even with 7 losses today and i'v posted all 8 matches that i'v played i still had a good game my last one 8th one, even tho we still lost the people in my team were ok to game with. I'm sure you will be out of bronze before me man like the old saying GLHF Luck yes fun yes, luck no fun no haha
Hirudora (OCE)
: A Typical Match In Lol
8th match today, lost again...sigh. Went Aatox top vs Darius um was even didn't receive any ganks but i did manage to kill yi or tried to gank me xD. Our mid player just never used his ult who was Anivia, getting really really close in team fights and would just die. I was able to push three inhibs, much better game this time round for as a top laner. But other than that it was a good game considering i lost i'm still happy with the out come. So that is 8 games played today only won 1, man i'm good
Hirudora (OCE)
: A Typical Match In Lol
My 7th game today, we lost as usual. My support being thresh stood behind me the whole time from first wave and blitz being the other support just basically pushed me back to tower knowing i couldn't get anywhere near minions, this thresh didn't start with relic which is a pain really, my support had full mana full health and managed to get grabbed and die. Yet again our team failed to ban fizz even when i asked to ban fizz and of course the other team picked fizz and dominated...yeah not much i could really do to be honest i don't know but there's a pattern when i have certain champs in my team it's a insta loss, first when i started over 3 years ago it was Shaco, would always lose if we had him in our team, then gang plank top, warwick even to this day i will lose when we have ww jg i don't know why i can't explain how it just happens and now Panth top or jg oh and zed mid. It's so rare for me to win with these champs in our team...don't know what it is ? I't really does suck when i get ww jg in our team because we all know nobodies going to get any ganks till level 6 speaking from a bronze class point of view, so many opportunities wasted when he even tries to attempt to gank before level 6 and if i'm top lane doesn't matter where he can't actually stop them from running. Warwick has no slow,snear, knock ups, taunts you name it he lacks something early game, late game sure he can be very tough and hard to kill but that's even if you make it to late game which we don't ff at 20 minutes with ww. So here is my 7th match lost, only won one match today out of seven. very sad really but i'm not going to give up i'm sure i will progress back to silver in time xD
Hirudora (OCE)
: A Typical Match In Lol
This is my first win of the day very pleased, not a lot of chat just the old good job you to stuff. As usual i was support, had a really good adc to support as well as top mid and jg. 6 matches today only 1 win :(
: (Im bronze but am quoting a diamond player, foxdrop from eu) Firstly - to climb you need to play selfishly, get as many kills whilst playing assitively in areas if people call ks and then abuse you there is a mute button Secondly - NEVER IMMEDIATELY THINK YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE, your mindset describes how you play, play your best at all times Thirdly - if they have low wins explain to them (Nicely) how the less normal wins they have the harder it is to understand ranked, urge them to get over 400 wins before playing ranked and if they're stubborn mute them in game likely they'll abuse you Watch this - this can help deal with ragers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1QQe1mgGDc
Thanks heaps man appreciate that, the thing is it really doesn't matter how i feel at the time, if you knew me you would know i'm the type of person that goes to work with a new face on everyday, i leave my home at home and leave my work at work. I'm not having the teams that are beating my teams if that makes sense ? I can prove to you what i mean would take a lot of screen shots but if i have a zed mid he fails yet if the other team has zed mid he owns us like wise with riven, fizz, kat etc... I'v played 5 games today all 5 losses, when i was top i really tried to help my team but was absolutely nothing i could do, i was 4/0 me being Panth verse Fiora and i know i can destroy Fiora which i did so she was lucky to be carried by the rest of her team unlike myself i was unlucky to have this team basically. i base it all on luck, people disagree with me which is fine but how i see it i'm the unlucky one to have being placed with these players organized by the bot system, i was unlucky to have a unskilled support rather than a skilled support. I do mute people man, to be honest i'm at the stage where i don't even have sound coming from the game anymore i just listen to George Fm in the back ground. For me and how i see this game i would say the first 10-15 minutes is the most crucial part of the game and decides the out come of the match, NOT all matches are the same and the turn of the tide can happen at the end, don't get me wrong i have won matches where we were behind in kills due to out team comps being that little bit better. But often for me and only me first ten minutes tells me if were going to win or not. Nobody rages at me because every game i don't actually do anything wrong, i may make a mistake but who doesn't. At least i know what i did wrong and do better but the players i'm with they don't know what they did wrong and continue to do it. I hope you have more luck than i do because after 3 years playing, this year going on my fourth and i'm back where i started it's not a nice feeling.
Hirudora (OCE)
: A Typical Match In Lol
My 5th loss today that's 5/5 games all losses nothing new really. I don't mind Sona support but their first pick was karma i kinda would have gone some one like Leona to capitalize on Karma. Sona fed ez in first ten minutes ezreal was 4/0 our support Sona was 0/4, Sona didn't buy a sightstone till the 20th minute. Mean while Riven and Syndra was getting fed from my team. Yet again was lucky to have such skilled players in my team can only hope that my luck changes.
Hirudora (OCE)
: A Typical Match In Lol
This was the end result to my third game
Hirudora (OCE)
: A Typical Match In Lol
My third game game, 3/3 losses. I went top knowing that i would destroy Fiora which i did, but of course mid and bot and jungler failed. So annoying when i get the team that doesn't ban fizz and then that fizz ends up getting fed and some what carrying
Hirudora (OCE)
: A Typical Match In Lol
My second match today, great to see Alistar mid sad to see him in my team tho unlucky really
Hirudora (OCE)
: Wow man clap clap for the handicap, nice RAGGING by the way, I'm a fat ass, i'm selfish, toxic biatch anything else to add to that ? Please i can handle it honestly This is my first game of the day, our adc said he didn't have full set of life steal runes and i told him in lobby it would be a good idea to have a set depending on who the other team has picked. In this case Zilean was the support and having life steal runes helps a lot. I do help others, my problem is why am i constantly getting players that have no clue in how to play. i'm not as good as you guys and can just pick a champ and carry an entire team to victory i wish i could but i can't. Hey man you can call me every name in the book i don't care, what ever makes you happy. You wanna come say it to my face i'll be more than happy to tell you what's up. I might even let you use my account and you could get me out of bronze that would be nice. I don't have to shut up man no one does, everyone has the right to post and say what they want i think ? and sort out any issues with other gamers. If this is the stuff you say to people in threads i can only imagine how cruel and nasty you are in game and possibly in real life. I shouldn't have to go top mid what ever to carry or to win games, how do i know the person that calls top or mid is actually good ? we don't know till the game starts, i can only have faith that the SYSTEM has teamed me up with people at my skill level but i'v been UNLUCKY and only get unskilled players most games. 27 million people play League of Legends because i just googled it, how many players would you say that are unskilled and playing rank lets say 1 percent. 1% off 27 million is 27,000 unskilled players, how many of these 27.000 get carried and carried and carried ? I would say a lot I believe there are more unskilled players in rank advancing then skilled players advancing. When you want to drive a car you get your learners and practice, if you want to be a pilot you you take flight lessons and so on and so forth. You don't just jump in a plane and expect to know how to pilot it or a car. A lot of people out there are not even true gamers, their not built for gaming like their mates are.
Can i report this ? I'm pretty sure you just can't abuse people aye ? or can we ?
Nature (OCE)
: Firstly we know you're not ragging, you're raging Second of all how do kids learn something when there is no one teaching them. They'll keep doing what they always do unless someone "Helpful" of the group decides to show them the right way. Sometimes you have to sacrifice some of your rank matches so others don't get affected by the same players instead of being a selfish ass person and thinking just cause you know what you're doing makes you the victim. And since when did I say we should carry unskilled players, you're the one who seems like the person who doesn't want to cooperate with other players cause you're a toxic biatch complaining about losing. If you don't want to keep losing then start carrying god tier mode otherwise shut up. I know the point of this thread is to tell all the newbies in rank to get good before they enter their provisionals but then they'll never get good cause normals is sometimes used for fun and they don't know the meta and all. If you want to keep debating and all then don't bother cause you're just wasting your time on your fat ass just complaining about some 'Games' you lost when there are probably others in the same boat.
Wow man clap clap for the handicap, nice RAGGING by the way, I'm a fat ass, i'm selfish, toxic biatch anything else to add to that ? Please i can handle it honestly This is my first game of the day, our adc said he didn't have full set of life steal runes and i told him in lobby it would be a good idea to have a set depending on who the other team has picked. In this case Zilean was the support and having life steal runes helps a lot. I do help others, my problem is why am i constantly getting players that have no clue in how to play. i'm not as good as you guys and can just pick a champ and carry an entire team to victory i wish i could but i can't. Hey man you can call me every name in the book i don't care, what ever makes you happy. You wanna come say it to my face i'll be more than happy to tell you what's up. I might even let you use my account and you could get me out of bronze that would be nice. I don't have to shut up man no one does, everyone has the right to post and say what they want i think ? and sort out any issues with other gamers. If this is the stuff you say to people in threads i can only imagine how cruel and nasty you are in game and possibly in real life. I shouldn't have to go top mid what ever to carry or to win games, how do i know the person that calls top or mid is actually good ? we don't know till the game starts, i can only have faith that the SYSTEM has teamed me up with people at my skill level but i'v been UNLUCKY and only get unskilled players most games. 27 million people play League of Legends because i just googled it, how many players would you say that are unskilled and playing rank lets say 1 percent. 1% off 27 million is 27,000 unskilled players, how many of these 27.000 get carried and carried and carried ? I would say a lot I believe there are more unskilled players in rank advancing then skilled players advancing. When you want to drive a car you get your learners and practice, if you want to be a pilot you you take flight lessons and so on and so forth. You don't just jump in a plane and expect to know how to pilot it or a car. A lot of people out there are not even true gamers, their not built for gaming like their mates are.
Bookbash (OCE)
: OK Jinuku, I am going through what you are also going through atm. But I have a plan. I think playing support you will not be able to carry your team unless you are a good leader and people listen to you. ---> Youtube "Pakushy - How to be a captain" for ideas. Other youtube videos have ideas on how to escape solo queue "hell" by suggesting that you learn some champions that can carry, i.e. mid laners. This is my first season in ranked (started LoL in June 2014), and in normals my MMR for games were around 1200-1400 most of the time. In provs I started with 5 losses, then 4 wins, then a loss, mostly due to the kind of idiots you mention that are either not ready for ranked or afkers. It happens. My MMR for those games were around 800-900. I was put into Bronze I. After a few games the next day I was in Bronze III. So I understand what you are going through. So you could wait until the season settles down and then play ranked, and then most of the noobs will be in Bronze V. In the meantime train up your mid lane skills? Or you could do what I'm doing now, and just continuing to play, focusing on your own game, and seeing how it goes. I also created a ranked team and so far we have 2/2 with average MMR for the games around 1500. Ranked teams may solve your annoyances :) As a final resort you could google, "LoL elo boosting". Costs about $US150 on average to put you back in silver division I, if you would pay for that, and then you could just carry on at your normal level, if that is your normal level. Good Luck!
I'm support a lot of the time because i let others call their lanes and i just fill, like most skilled players would say in lobby "fill" So many times players call their lanes mid top jg and then end up being 0/5 in ten minutes, so what was the point in calling a lane ? They might as well take on a new role and they might actually like it if they never played adc or support before, but not in rank go learn a new role in norms. Thanks for the comment Happy gaming
Nature (OCE)
: Just quit the game if you can't handle what's been happening for years. We have to get over the fact that there are people who have bad days, tilting and what not but raging on the forums isn't going to change anything. If you really don't enjoy having bad teams find a way to carry in these situations otherwise try to be a leader instead of raging at players who are new to the rank system. Maybe teach them what they're doing wrong and then they can learn from their own mistakes. Don't bother playing rank if you don't want to end in bronze.
Firstly i'm not ragging i'm telling it how it is. Secondly i'm not there to teach kids how to play, normal and bot matches are there for them to learn. You talk about me being a leader and should learn to carry, i don't see anyone carrying me. I shouldn't have to quit a game just because there's more unskilled players than skilled players in rank. Wheres the skill in being carried by another player, basically what your're saying is we should carry unskilled players otherwise we'll keep losing right ?
: I do not know how to adc or support either, nor does one of my play friends. So what? Just don't give them supp or adc unless ur an idiot and want to see people struggle. If someone does not add or support, that likely means they are not naturally good at them and that they spent far more time practicing their main lanes. In ranked you have to make sure everyone gets optimal positions dude.
9/10 i'm support because i don't say a word in the lobby, i let everyone else say what lanes they want and i just fill. Don't get me wrong i love my Leona support or any tank really support or jg. I can do all roles and so i should for the amount of matches i'v played and the years spent playing. I also respect the pick order always have always will. If you can't step up to a whole new role eg adc support then you ain't gonna get brand new shoes because your sticking to your old ones.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jinuku,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=I7faPlz5,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2015-01-26T08:35:44.904+0000) > > I'ts luck, it really is luck. Why of course, faker and all those challenger and LCS players all rose up there because they have insane luck, right? I am sure if you got lucky you can easily beat faker in a game, since it's a 50/50 chance either team wins, right?
No, when you have a player in your team that is not at your skill level and does not know what to do in team fights such as don't focus the tank focus the adc or ap champ and just keeps making the same mistakes one after another then no the chance of you losing is slimmer than 50%. Same thing when you don't ban kat or fizz your're increasing the chances of losing rather than winning if you had neither on your team and they did.
HeartVine (OCE)
: Yes, I realise that many people who were in silver got demoted to bronze but that's because their MMR was trash. Fact is you are the *only *common factor between all of your matches. Since you're apparently consistently losing it might be a good idea to look at the common factor in the equation.
In the first ten minutes of a match our top mid and some times jungler are 0/5. Most of my matches i'm support and our adc never dies that many times while i'm supporting him/her Please make me understand how i'm effecting others whilst doing my best at the other end of the map ? I know whats required of me when i'm support or any role, because i'v played a lot of normal matches and got a lot better during rank. People these days that are new to rank don't know whats required of them. This is just a typical match for me
: > [{quoted}](name=Jinuku,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=I7faPlz5,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2015-01-26T08:35:44.904+0000) > > I'ts luck, it really is luck. No, it's not. Watch streamers like Boxbox and imaqtpie. They talk about what's going on, when they misplay, why they won, why they lost, etc. and you'll see that it's not luck at all (unless crit is involved). Better players rise and worse players fall, you're just looking for something other than yourself to blame so you don't feel as bad. When you accept that you're in the wrong and look to better yourself, you'll start improving.
Your're talking about actual teams man. Have you never ever even once experience having poorly unskilled players in your team ? i have and i'm sick of it This is just an example of many encounters Our team was soo soo lucky to have this skilled player in our team after claiming he didn't know how to adc or support. We lost this match of course, he stood behind me all game in lane missing every grab with blitz not knowing what to do. It was bad luck for our team to have him or is it just a plain crap rank system ? I dunno man you tell me why there are so many scrubs in rank
Hirudora (OCE)
: A Typical Match In Lol
Here's a player saying he doesn't know how to adc or support in rank que. How lucky for me and the rest of us to have this player in our team. We lost this match also
Hirudora (OCE)
: A Typical Match In Lol
Another awsome match, i can only look on while our adc mid and top failed, not one tower was taken
HeartVine (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Jinuku,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=I7faPlz5,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2015-01-26T04:56:20.772+0000) > > Then what is the problem ? Well, if you're consistently losing maybe look at the one common factor between all the games you play.
It's being teamed up with complete idiots man, that don't take rank seriously Do you know how many silver players this season have being set back to bronze. A lot. Every game i have silver players in bronze matches, and we have to play with people at a lower level.
HeartVine (OCE)
: ***
Whats your definition on suck ? As support i can go through a whole game and not die whilst having the most amount of assists in the match as Leona of course. Sorry man but if you want to add me and find out for yourself, i'll show you i don't suck. The ranking system is crap To many noobs in rank Whats the point having normal matches then ? Whats the point having bot matches ? Riot should just have rank play and forget about normal and bot matches, everyone else is
: Tbh if you deserve to be higher I dont see how you can possibly lose in bronze. I hit G3 last season and whenver I see a gold in the enemy team I know I have already won the game. You get bad teams because of MMR. If you have bad MMR then enemies will also get bad teams. Capitalise on their bad players get big and bronzies are %%%% so you will actually be able to 1v5 and win if you do it smartly.
> [{quoted}](name=Spontanious Burn,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=I7faPlz5,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-01-26T05:40:18.518+0000) > > Tbh if you deserve to be higher I dont see how you can possibly lose in bronze. I hit G3 last season and whenver I see a gold in the enemy team I know I have already won the game. You get bad teams because of MMR. If you have bad MMR then enemies will also get bad teams. Capitalise on their bad players get big and bronzies are %%%% so you will actually be able to 1v5 and win if you do it smartly. I'ts luck, it really is luck.
: This is a horribly stupid idea. Your idea is that a number of games won is a determinaton of skill. I agree with you in part on that fact. However, some people learn at different rates due to a whole heap of factors, such as that person's willingness to accept their mistakes. Are you accepting your mistakes? It does not seem so, as you seem to only accept that your teammates are bad. Maybe you don't belong in bronze at all. Some people do get placed there. You aren't necessarily stuck there though. What should you do then? Both teams will be of around equal MMR, and if your MMR is lower than it should be then you can make that an advantage for your team. The other option is duo queuing with someone higher to play with the people you feel are on your level. This could mean one of two things: you'll be winning games fine and you won't be a burden to your team, and you will be gaining LP faster for playing against people higher than your MMR. The other possibility is that you will be a burden. Maybe you will be a burden (I wouldn't know, I don't play with you). However, that isn't necessarily a bad thing. It is what you make of it. It could be a humbling experience that shows you that you need to make changes and learn before you can get yourself out of where you are. I have played with people on 100 wins who are better than those with 1000. In addition, the general consensus is that playing ranked is the best way to improve. What you are saying is that you want people to improve without using the queues that are generally best for improvement? We're always going to be held back from time to time by teams who can't work well with each other, and people who are not performing to the expected standard. However, if you deserve to be higher, you should be winning more games than you are losing. Even if you are held back a lot, you can climb, even if it is slowly. There is a lot of time for the climb though! Season has just begun.
> [{quoted}](name=Slim Chaedi,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=I7faPlz5,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-01-26T06:07:28.564+0000) > > This is a horribly stupid idea. > Your idea is that a number of games won is a determinaton of skill. I agree with you in part on that fact. However, some people learn at different rates due to a whole heap of factors, such as that person's willingness to accept their mistakes. Are you accepting your mistakes? It does not seem so, as you seem to only accept that your teammates are bad. Maybe you don't belong in bronze at all. Some people do get placed there. You aren't necessarily stuck there though. What should you do then? Both teams will be of around equal MMR, and if your MMR is lower than it should be then you can make that an advantage for your team. The other option is duo queuing with someone higher to play with the people you feel are on your level. This could mean one of two things: you'll be winning games fine and you won't be a burden to your team, and you will be gaining LP faster for playing against people higher than your MMR. The other possibility is that you will be a burden. Maybe you will be a burden (I wouldn't know, I don't play with you). However, that isn't necessarily a bad thing. It is what you make of it. It could be a humbling experience that shows you that you need to make changes and learn before you can get yourself out of where you are. > I have played with people on 100 wins who are better than those with 1000. In addition, the general consensus is that playing ranked is the best way to improve. What you are saying is that you want people to improve without using the queues that are generally best for improvement? > > We're always going to be held back from time to time by teams who can't work well with each other, and people who are not performing to the expected standard. However, if you deserve to be higher, you should be winning more games than you are losing. Even if you are held back a lot, you can climb, even if it is slowly. There is a lot of time for the climb though! Season has just begun. In all walks of life man we start at the bottom and work our way up. It's not like that in league. You play your ten placement games you have no idea what your're doing but get carried and put into silver (CARRIED) There are players who deserve to win and there are players who lack the skills to know how to win, I'm not here to teach people how to play this computer game, no matter how i feel at the time prior the game starting i always do my best and learn This is from my last match just now, i lost thinking we had a chance of winning but of course our bot and mid lane failed and me as Teemo support could only hope these two players would finally learn something from their mistakes, Kennon was 1/5 with in ten minutes of the game starting, just like all my other games i have lost due to other players.
: Fair enough that you sometimes get matched with people perhaps lower than the division you're in.... But from what you're saying you've been losing quite a few matches and that cannot be solely blamed on "bad team-mates" Also just because you spent awhile playing norms before you entered ranked doesn't mean others have to do the same. People are comfortable entering ranked whenever they feel like they are, for some it takes longer, others not as long. Afterall you do need some people to be bad for the low divisions no?? lol I'm not going to say learn how to carry a team because frankly i don't like that, if anything i'd say learn how to HELP your team (i.e offering advice, giving em some kills, advising em on their build etc) things that can help your team win the game which inturn helps you and also prevents relying on one individual having to carry the entire match and thinking they're gods-gift to the world lol. Tldr: Bad teammates aint the problem.
> [{quoted}](name=DarkenedKnight,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=I7faPlz5,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-01-26T04:42:44.716+0000) > > Fair enough that you sometimes get matched with people perhaps lower than the division you're in.... But from what you're saying you've been losing quite a few matches and that cannot be solely blamed on "bad team-mates" > > Also just because you spent awhile playing norms before you entered ranked doesn't mean others have to do the same. People are comfortable entering ranked whenever they feel like they are, for some it takes longer, others not as long. Afterall you do need some people to be bad for the low divisions no?? lol > > I'm not going to say learn how to carry a team because frankly i don't like that, if anything i'd say learn how to HELP your team (i.e offering advice, giving em some kills, advising em on their build etc) things that can help your team win the game which inturn helps you and also prevents relying on one individual having to carry the entire match and thinking they're gods-gift to the world lol. > > > Tldr: Bad teammates aint the problem. Then what is the problem ? I'm not the player that asked to go mid and then in the first ten minutes is 0/5 I'm not the player that asked to be support and doesn't buy a sight stone When i'm support sight stone is always my second item. I honestly can't remember the last time i had a really really good game you know
: > Every game i'm about to start i'm expecting to lose, it doesn't matter what lane or role i play. This is the biggest reason you're losing.
This is a computer game like all other games out there, you learn from your mistakes so you can clock the game. There is no joy being teamed up with unskilled players before the game has even started There is no joy in my matches when i lose after trying everything i can to help Going back to bronze is a real kick in the guts
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