: Or have you ever consider, you are not as good as you think you are at league? Do you ever see a booster, or smurft struggling to climb to their rating? Am sure you can get out of bronze 5 while those that are stuck at bronze 5 cant. Why not you ask? Because they are playing on the average skills and ingame knowledge of a bronze 5 player. The same goes for you, you are just the average; So naturally you cant carry, or win effectively. Being good in WOW pvp dont mean you are gonna be good in league. You dont need to cs, build items to counter, positioning, map movement, objectives control, warding, ect.. What you are telling me with all your bans. You have terrible people skills, quick to flare up, superiority complex "hence am better than every 1, my team suck", and denial. Most dont give a shit how well you did in high school once you go to work. So stop talking about how well you did with other games when you play league.
*cough* im currently playing on a gold account right now *cough* Yeah i cant get out of bronze 5 because im b5, totaaaaalllllllllly the case. "Being good in WOW pvp dont mean you are gonna be good in league. You dont need to cs, build items to counter, positioning, map movement, objectives control, warding, ect.. " It doesnt translate into league you are correct. But being able to consistently play in a high pressure high skill competitive environment without getting angry means that the problem isnt me, the problem in the environment im getting angry in. You know that thing about consistency being the best way to find what the problem is? if im consistently angry when i play league. And consistently not angry when i play every other game in existence, including other games in the same genre as league. A normal rational person would say "ok so the consistent factor here is league of legends" not "ok so you have anger issues" Basically im saying, you arent a normal rational person. Because you are completing some absolutely insane logical gymnastics to reach the conclusion that i have anger issues. Despite the fact that i only get angry at league players. Out of literally everything in this universe. I only get angry at league players. Its a logical fallacy to look at me get angry at league players, then not get angry at literally anything else and say "you have anger issues" I dont have anger issues, i just really fucking hate league players. If the actual game itself wasnt so enjoyable id have quit years ago because again i really really hate the type of people that play league of legends. Again league of legends specifically, ive played dozens of mobas, its a genre i enjoy and a genre that 90% of games dont have player-bases that piss me off, even dota 2 which is arguably just as popular as league. The reason i really hate league players, is the games perceived as being the easy moba. So its the game everyone gravitates towards for their first moba. Its not fucking easy its actually deceptively difficult, there is an insanely high skill cap on this game, like have you seen korean junglers before? they are literally card counting in their games. They look at the enemy junglers cs and do #quickmath to determine which of their camps are still up so they can predict their gank paths. I tried it once and got a free red buff and jungler kill out of it, can i do that consistently? no because im not the bloody rainman, but my god is that complicated. So complicated in fact, that the vast majority of this playerbase is not capable of doing it, hell the only reason i could even try it out once is because im literally a maths undergraduate so i can do #quickmaths in my head. So if you want a reason as to why i get so damn frustrated with league players? Its because im average, maybe a little tiny bit better than average, but still average. And despite being average i can pull off akali w hops that are thought of as impossible, fast q combos without thinking of them, solo rift herald with my eyes closed on every champion in the game (hes actually really easy to solo you just walk behind him when hes charging his slam and auto his back, gg 12 minute rift herald solo on every champion in the game). Stuff the people around me cant do, and if they try to do they fumble and do it clumsily. Basically im someone who can quite literally say. "God im surrounded by idiots" And let me tell you, its fucking hell, theres nothing more soul crushing than being the smartest person in a room. Because you want to know a secret from such a smart person? We dont take pride in it, we dont think its a good thing. Because if were the smartest person in the room, that means that everyone else is average or below average intelligence. When i walk into a room and see people actively trying to solve problems that i can do on a whim i dont think "boy im so blessed to have the ability to think this quickly" I think "oh god humanity is doomed" In that respect, maybe youre right that i dont have people skills when it comes to dealing with below average intelligence people, because my method for not being consistently angry at stupid people, is to actively avoid them (something i cant do in league, go figure). but everything else you were wrong about. Oh and before you say "well if the problem is you find stupid people aggravating why dont you get this angry at other matchmaking based games like dota" simple, theres a higher concentration of tards playing league than in any other game. I can play 20 games of dota 2 and theres a pretty solid chance that in all 20 games the players wont be jaw droppingly stupid. I can play 20 games of league and i 100% guarantee you atleast one player will have been an extra in the movie idiocracy.
: Or have you ever consider, you are not as good as you think you are at league? Do you ever see a booster, or smurft struggling to climb to their rating? Am sure you can get out of bronze 5 while those that are stuck at bronze 5 cant. Why not you ask? Because they are playing on the average skills and ingame knowledge of a bronze 5 player. The same goes for you, you are just the average; So naturally you cant carry, or win effectively. Being good in WOW pvp dont mean you are gonna be good in league. You dont need to cs, build items to counter, positioning, map movement, objectives control, warding, ect.. What you are telling me with all your bans. You have terrible people skills, quick to flare up, superiority complex "hence am better than every 1, my team suck", and denial. Most dont give a shit how well you did in high school once you go to work. So stop talking about how well you did with other games when you play league.
*cough* im currently playing on a gold account right now *cough* Yeah i cant get out of bronze 5 because im b5, totaaaaalllllllllly the case. "Being good in WOW pvp dont mean you are gonna be good in league. You dont need to cs, build items to counter, positioning, map movement, objectives control, warding, ect.. " It doesnt translate into league you are correct. But being able to consistently play in a high pressure high skill competitive environment without getting angry means that the problem isnt me, the problem in the environment im getting angry in. You know that thing about consistency being the best way to find what the problem is? if im consistently angry when i play league. And consistently not angry when i play every other game in existence, including other games in the same genre as league. A normal rational person would say "ok so the consistent factor here is league of legends" not "ok so you have anger issues"
KaynMid (OCE)
: Except i maintain challenger in other non teambased games. Regularly hit over 2800 rating in rated 3v3 arenas in wow (and have a couple glad titles to boot) Oh and my most played game period is path of exile, in the last year alone ive sunk maybe 2000 hours into that, path of exile has way WAY more brutal shit than league, and most of it is actually server lag, so things youd normally get pissed off at. And hey while im not breaking any world records anytime soon, i also speed run super metroid and a few other of the metroid side scrollers, sure its frustrating if i miss a corner boost because im a pixel or two off, but i dont ragequit over it and stay relatively calm. i remain calm through ALL of that. League, and its community is quite literally the only thing in gaming that can get me this pissed off. The only thing that even comes close would probably have to be when i was 5 on that god damn crash bandicoot level with the boulder. 17 years later, and the only thing on this plain of existence that can replicate that level of anger and frustration is trying to organize 4 random players in a league of legends team mid game. Hell league isnt the only moba i play. i also play paragon (rip in peace you were our only hope for a graphically nice moba) played mxm for a bit while it was in closed beta (yes with the 500ms ping, still didnt rage despite getting literally shit on by server lag) smite (havnt played it in quite awhile might pick it up again kind of miss it) And ofc dota 2. So its not the genre either because again i dont rage in those 4 games of identical genre to league. The only consistent factor with my rage, is league of legends. Because normally the consistent factor would be yourself, but i dont rage anywhere else in life, which means that by definition me raging is inconsistent with the rest of my life.
Like honestly, the reason i get frustrated by league, is because i have all these achievements in gaming, ive proven im a capable gamer, ive proven that im able to pick up and acquire a decent skill level in a game relatively quickly. But in all the examples i gave of where im good at games, none of them involves having to deal with a randomly chosen team. my teamwork skills do exist, hence the high 3v3 rating, but i get to choose the players i play with in rated wow arenas, so i get to screen people i find abysmally stupid before i even play with them, you cant do that in league. You cant do that in mobas in general, like ill admit that i peaked gold in paragon, never got to rated in smite, and i mostly play dota 2 for the mods these days, because as much as i enjoy the moba genre i cant control my team, which in turn means there is a factor of gameplay that i have no say in how i perform. Which is cohesiveness between myself and my team. Hell the only reason i got gold in paragon is because the playerbase there was incredibly new and the towers did fuck all damage due to shitty balance patches so i could easily just play my main kallari stomp a team going 15/0 then solo end the game.
: Oh please, dont believe everything he claim. People like him have a short fuse, almost any sign of problem will hasten the process where he blow up "and it does'nt take long either". In another words, he has anger issue; Small set back will trigger it. Which mean his ability to handle stress and problem solving skills are low; Instead of thinking of a reasonable next move, he resort to an ugly emotional state to release his anger and forgo the win just so he can lash out; Due to his minuscule capacity to hold frustration.
Except i maintain challenger in other non teambased games. Regularly hit over 2800 rating in rated 3v3 arenas in wow (and have a couple glad titles to boot) Oh and my most played game period is path of exile, in the last year alone ive sunk maybe 2000 hours into that, path of exile has way WAY more brutal shit than league, and most of it is actually server lag, so things youd normally get pissed off at. And hey while im not breaking any world records anytime soon, i also speed run super metroid and a few other of the metroid side scrollers, sure its frustrating if i miss a corner boost because im a pixel or two off, but i dont ragequit over it and stay relatively calm. i remain calm through ALL of that. League, and its community is quite literally the only thing in gaming that can get me this pissed off. The only thing that even comes close would probably have to be when i was 5 on that god damn crash bandicoot level with the boulder. 17 years later, and the only thing on this plain of existence that can replicate that level of anger and frustration is trying to organize 4 random players in a league of legends team mid game. Hell league isnt the only moba i play. i also play paragon (rip in peace you were our only hope for a graphically nice moba) played mxm for a bit while it was in closed beta (yes with the 500ms ping, still didnt rage despite getting literally shit on by server lag) smite (havnt played it in quite awhile might pick it up again kind of miss it) And ofc dota 2. So its not the genre either because again i dont rage in those 4 games of identical genre to league. The only consistent factor with my rage, is league of legends. Because normally the consistent factor would be yourself, but i dont rage anywhere else in life, which means that by definition me raging is inconsistent with the rest of my life.
SOOM (OCE)
: 5th perma ban I assume for toxicity.... maybe you should reflect on that statement. I think you understand that you are a toxic player that is clear, but maybe you should change your ways. Having a account for a longer time can be a good thing as you can work towards goals like hextech crafting free cool skins or unlocking all the champs... If this is your attitude towards the game then I’m not sure why you are playing it still? Treat others as you would want to be treated yourself, and if you want to be flamed and abused in game then I don’t know what to say to that.
Why do i play? simple i like the game. But liking the game doesnt mean i have to like the people who play it. League is a victim of its own popularity, its a good enough game to have one of the largest playerbases on the planet, unfortunately when a game is insanely popular it also brings in all the riff raff. The cod kiddies if you will. its like when people ask me why im toxic to people who are toxic or just plain stupid. The answer is plain and simple, i genuinely hate this community. Actually hate isnt strong enough. I LOATH this community. Despise. Wish it would burn up shrivel and die. Mostly because all the genuinely positive players, are gone. They just dont exist anymore, they are either cynical and jaded like myself. or have quit the game because they realized they were surrounded by cynical and jaded people like myself. Those handful of genuinely positive players left are masochists that like to torture themselves. When i log into the game, i dont see 9 other humans. i see 9 players who are either going to play to a sub par but close to average level and i wont have to yell at. or 9 fuckwits that think they are good enough to queue outside of coop vs ai/norms who need to be reminded as to why they have a 32% winrate. But despite a solid 90% of my games being dreary messes that leave me more pissed off than when i started. Those 10% of games. the 10% where no ones retarded. both teams are about even. Everyones humble, and doesnt try to take credit for the work put in by the other players on their team. Those 10% of games that are actually fucking fun. Thats why i play league, and thats what i wish the community could be, but it cant be that, as long as riot keeps its current stance of words are worse than actions. Because right now i can afk and int 20 games in a row, and i wont even get a chat restriction, ive done it i know its possible to do. But yell at someone for a couple games and you get perma'd That doesnt fix toxicity, that lets it fester, mutate, and breed.
Rengorax (OCE)
: While I am really not interested in having another discussion with you, I'd like to add that you claim to not go into these games with a negative attitude but you also say stuff like " is my new smurf is ready for ranked already so i can just hop on over" and "this is my fifth perma ban, its quite obvious i dont give a shit about the penalty because of how easy it is to make new accounts".
Yep, i dont go into the game with a negative attitude. But when i have a terrible experience with the players im with i have no qualms making sure they have a terrible experience too because there is literally zero penalty to me, and zero penalty for them, so i make a penalty for them because riot wont. Theres a difference between toxicity, and just treating people the way they treat you. i have no doubt that a solid 80% of the "toxic" players in this community arent actually toxic but are instead have just had their patience worn down to a sliver by the constant barrage of shitstains that riot keeps letting through. And as long as riot bans for saying nono words, instead of banning for actual meaningul reasons, like griefing, and trolling, and afking. That will stay the case. because those are the root cause of all the toxicity. As long as those players are allowed to exist people will bitch at each other. people will bitch back. And you will have an echo chamber of bitching. But someone has the light that initial fire, get rid of the root cause of the toxicity, not just the most vocal ones.
Rioter Comments
: Sera's is definitely a good person to give this to, good job riot.
Feels bad man, i remember when i used to think this too, but damn two years ago...
: Thats league these days :/ What even are classes? Or strategy? League atm is basically a 1-hit free-for-all, that rewards people sitting back letting their teammates be cannonfodder, and then coming in to clean up. This has been all of my fights for the last few weeks: The mages and supports smack bang in the front lines _(because they lack the mobility to be anywhere else)_, clinging to each other for dear life, cowering in fear of the shadow of the Titans who are doing the actual meaningful fighting. One titan _(usually Jax or Nasus)_ wins, immediately dispatches the whimpering mage and support, then the winner now on low HP and their cowering mage/support, gets cleaned out by the ADC or assassin lurking far enough away from the fight to get kills, but not close enough to actually be useful, who then boasts about getting pentas and quadras. Long gone are the days when each class had an even role to play.
Sounds like how bronze has been for years but in every elo now.
: If you think you have riot in your back pocket ready to “zucc” people whenever you please then I’m sorry to say that you make it a little too obvious to them what a piece of shit you are on these forums. I’m by no means a saint and I certainly deserved my perma ban, but the fact that you think the way you act in game and on the forums is fine is... interesting. Sorry buddy but I hope you like being stuck in bronze cause until you stop flaming your team every game and blaming everyone but yourself bronze is going to be your home for awhile :) I really want to know, have you ever actually read through your own post history and wondered if you’re the problem?
I complain about the 1% of my games worth bitching about. 100% of my posts are bitch posts. But that doesnt mean my posts are about 100% of my games, just means that i see a team that isnt worthy of being bitched about as the standard rather than something that should be praised. That reason alone is why the alt ive been playing during this 2 weeker is already high silver. Because the only reason i make so many of these posts is due to the sheer volume of games i play, rather than the percentage of the games i play that go bad.
: Someone carried you in flex 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂
I carried them* they were gonna be placed b5 and i got them to place b3 despite going 5/5 by having them play in my much higher mmr.
: Only had to int like 800 games and have u spam the forums before anything actually happened. Maybe if you weren’t as toxic as you are you might still have your account as well :)
Actually it was one message from me to customer support forcing a manual review, which got dealt with by an actual NA riot staff member namely one of the graphics artists rather than regular customer support. Turns out i now have a direct line to zucc all your accounts every time i see one, so really i can do more damage to you, than you can do to me. Cant wait to see you again buddy :D Oh and as for the losing the account. I stopped giving riot money when they released the hextech system, because i can get 30+ chests a season by just playing the game easily, ive usually got more chests than i do keys. So i lose nothing by getting banned, i lose what bronze mmr and get a chance to reset then take 2 days to level a new account? boy thats so devastating, boo hoo, especially since every time i make a new account i attain a higher rank than my previous account, because i get to skip the painstaking grind to get to where ive improved to. So the time lost by having to make a new account is less than the time spent grinding ranked to get the same effect. Win-win
Plectrums (OCE)
: I don't specifically disagree with anything you say. Whenever I play, I play to the best of my ability, and I enjoy seeing my rank improve. The minor difference is that my ability is extremely low, and my rank might improve from Bronze IV to Bronze III, and then almost immediately go back down. The major difference is that I never feel disgust at myself, and the fun that I get out of this game is not dependent on winning. I'm not saying this makes me superior to you in any way, but I do believe that both I and the other guy get more out of this game in Bronze than you will for the foreseeable future. I will say, however, that you're wrong to assume that 'berating' someone makes the game more unpleasant for them. For me, at least, it doesn't have any effect at all, because I habitually mute chat. The net effect of berating someone who sucks is that now they're going to suck more and for longer because they're not paying attention to chat, they're not learning as efficiently. And since my terribleness doesn't bother me, but does bother people like you, ultimately you're only hurting yourself.
The problem is you arent learning. You recognize that yourself "every-time i get to brone 3 i drop back down to bronze 4" The reason is because you have no reason to learn. You are content being bronze 4 skill level and inturn have no motivation to improve as a player. Just as if you are content being a slob who lives with their parents you will never get a job.
: Why is Corey so Bad at League of Legends
I mean if i were you Id not play with him until he does learn the basics, and tell him why you arent playing with him. He will either get fed up of sucking ass and not being carried eventually. Or you will learn that corey is insanely stupid and learn to avoid him irl. Its win-win
Plectrums (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=KaynMid,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=42w53LcM,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-01-19T21:25:45.404+0000) > > Just sayng being comfortable in bronze is why youre bronze. > > Regardless of what people may think of me i have climbed out of bronze on numerous occasions. > > I am not an amazing player by any stretch, the only difference between myself and other bronze players is this one simple thing. > > "I feel disgusted in myself for being bronze" > > Thats it, thats my secret. > > The double edged sword is im also disgusted by other bronze players hence all the tilt, rage, lose streaks, and permabans. > > But hey if it makes me climb i can always make new accounts. Okay, that's perfectly valid (well, kind of), but who do you think is having more fun playing this game, you or the other guy?
Let me flip the question back on you. If you play to have fun and not to improve your rank, then why play ranked in the first place? Because i have fun when people like the other guy arent in my ranked games, because then its a purely competitive environment, and i enjoy purely competitive environments. The other guy doesnt have fun when people like me are in his games because i will berate him for not playing for the competitive nature or go out of my way to stomp him if im on the other team. If people who play for fun would play normals instead of ranked, and people who want to tryhard played ranked. The game would be more enjoyable for everyone. Hell when i want to fuck around and have fun i purposely queue for normals, purely to not fuck up other peoples ranked games. I go out of my way to make sure the other 9 players in the ranked games i play have a proper competitive environment, (unless im inting, but if im inting its because the other players have ruined my competitive environment so its out the window anyway) Tl;DR The only reason to play ranked over normals is to improve your rank. If you dont want to improve your rank then Draft Normals is identical to ranked in game-play, literally 100% identical, same queuing system, same pick-ban system, same items same champions, only difference, is it doesn't have a ranked system tied to it, and you arent responsible for 9 other players mmr by queuing up when you know you cant cut the mustard.
: Can’t wait to find you again on my new account and give you the business yellowbrickroad, it’s been too long old friend
Canc (OCE)
: I have not done my placement matches yet, but I will definitely be placed in bronze if not bronze 5... I personally likes bronze, where you can be comfortable being bad
Just sayng being comfortable in bronze is why youre bronze. Regardless of what people may think of me i have climbed out of bronze on numerous occasions. I am not an amazing player by any stretch, the only difference between myself and other bronze players is this one simple thing. "I feel disgusted in myself for being bronze" Thats it, thats my secret. The double edged sword is im also disgusted by other bronze players hence all the tilt, rage, lose streaks, and permabans. But hey if it makes me climb i can always make new accounts.
Rioter Comments
: Bronze/Silver/Gold Players For Summoners Society January
Im pretty bored, i play cass and kayn mid, can also jinx in a pinch though im pretty rusty i dont like playing adc in ranked because its so dependent on your support pre-10 minutes (and im bronze so fuck that)
: CAN PEOPLE PLS NOT
I have aspergers and i call people autistic, get over it mate.
Mozzie25 (OCE)
: Yup multiple accounts in silver. That's why this account which was your "I belong above bronze and am going to prove it" has fallen from silver to low bronze
its also an account i play almost exclusively kayn mid on and dont own any champions on so autofill rekts me. Nice shitpost buddy try harder next time.
Niji (OCE)
: Here is some of my own percentages except they are irrefutable. If you are good then your team has 4 other people who could potentially be bad. The enemy team has 5. Enemy team is statistically more likely to be worse if you are consistently good. Hmmm its kinda like if you are good and play enough games you climb regardless.
I guess thats why i have multiple accounts in silver+ My complaint wasnt "wah wah wah all my teams are shit and it stops me from climbing" My complaint was "Man all these teams dont give two shits which pisses me the fuck off, and i play like shit when im pissed the fuck off" That and it doesnt matter if its my team or the enemy team that plays like dogshit, i still feel like i wasted half an hour of my life. Because as i said i have multiple accounts, i dont care about getting as high a rank as possible, i care about improving as a player, how am i meant to improve in a pubstomp game, if i wanted to pubstomp or be pubstomped itd mean im not trying that game, and you know which queue i play when i dont feel like trying? normals.
LAKIGR (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=KaynMid,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=bem0xA8o,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-01-11T02:56:53.857+0000) > > lol ill chill out when theres a queue where the only people in it want to win. > > Because quite frankly, this isnt about a bad team, i could care less if my team is less skilled than the opposing team, yeah its annoying but thats still atleast carriable. > > Its when people arent even trying that i get pissed the fuck off. > > Because if you arent trying then you are no better than a troll or int feeder in my eyes, take that shit to norms. I mean it’s great and all to say that they aren’t trying but simple fact is your bronze 3 people don’t really care about ranked games even in ranked games or they r just plain up bad so again it’s just a game get over it
"it’s just a game get over it" So why not play norms instead of ranked then? What is so alluring about ranked that you just HAVE to queue for it despite not wanting nor caring to win.
Rioter Comments
LAKIGR (OCE)
: All I can say it chill out you got a bad team deal with it
lol ill chill out when theres a queue where the only people in it want to win. Because quite frankly, this isnt about a bad team, i could care less if my team is less skilled than the opposing team, yeah its annoying but thats still atleast carriable. Its when people arent even trying that i get pissed the fuck off. Because if you arent trying then you are no better than a troll or int feeder in my eyes, take that shit to norms.
: I am so fed up with salty teammates.
1. If its norms just report them. 2. If its ranked, ask yourself this question, why are you playing ranked if you are consistently bad enough to piss off your team? practice in norms first like a normal person. As a rager myself, let me explain the mentality. A ranked game takes what half an hour minimum 20 minutes. When you queue up for that game, not one single person who actually plays ranked on the regular queued up thinking "boy i hope i have a good time" they queued up thinking "boy i hope my teams not trash so i can have a good time winning", so if you queue up, knowing full well that you arent good enough to secure a win, you are actively choosing to disrupt the game of 9 other people, and in turn waste 20-40 minutes of their life. Thats a shitty thing to do. Even if you cant help that your bad, its still shitty to actively choose to expose other players to that in a competitive environment when there are options other than ranked that you could be choosing instead. Again if this is in regards to norms thats a different story and those ragers should be playing ranked. Ranked = Tryhard queue Normals = for fun Thats the distinction.
Rioter Comments
: Heres a challenge for ya!
Because lethality is flat penetration. That and due to the nature of how armor scaling works in a lethality meta the value of armor is actually larger than otherwise. Lets say your opponent has 50 armor pen, and you have 50 armor. you are taking 100% of the damage. if you were to then buy another 100 armor you are reducing the damage taken by 50% AFTER lethality. Without lethality you would start with your base 50 armor so 50 / (100 + 50) damage reduction, or 33% if you were to then buy that same 100 armor your damage reduction would increase from 33% to 60% a roughly 82% increase in damage reduction. Where people go wrong is they dont convert that into effective hp. so lets do the same calculation using ehp. lets assume 1000 base hp just to keep things simple. 50 armor would give you an ehp of 1500 150 armor would give you an ehp of 2500 150 armor with 50 lethality is an ehp of 2000 and 50 armor with 50 lethality an ehp of 1000 lethality at 150 armor only results in an ehp decrease of 20% and the difference gets smaller as you increase the armor. While not building armor into lethality causes a ehp decrease of 50% And not building armor when theres no lethality causes an ehp decrease of 40% meaning that 50 lethality makes the armor 25% stronger. Math.
: A mindset I don't understand, but that's the point of this. Thanks for the input.
The thing is you dont have to understand it, the vast majority of the community (or atleast the vocal ones) agree that ingame behaviour is more damaging than a few bad words. sticks and stones mate. sticks and stones.
: The key word here is "I" yes you dont know how to climb; Your skills and understanding of league isnt good enough to climb. I can easily climb your account to gold because i know how to win. As for KR, the reason people are not on ladder is because they dont have a massive ammount of fund to throw on pve and pvp or stack their UW. KR isnt hard; Dont pretend it is to make yourself look smart. Its a gear check game. pressing 1-3 buttons in a 5-10sec match is not difficult once you know the gist of it. Any 1 can replicate a winning "meta" team and be sucessful, skills is 20%, 80% is wallet.
Come back when you can make a mediana laias kaulah frey team work at anywhere above diamond by throwing money at it. You dont need 5 star uw's to get high in arena, you need to know who counters who and how to counter the counter, the people who just throw down cash on the latest cheese comps ultimately fall back out of challenger to be replaced by the next young gun with cash, the people consistently at the top (for instance ive been challenger since week 1 of eu) are the ones actually putting thought into the heroes they run. So again, your simplistic understanding of arena is why you arent at the top, not your wallet. For instance a mate of mine is challenger up here with me after following my advice, hes free to play.
SOOM (OCE)
: So where does it say bronze auto fill is turned up...
On =/= Up 50% of the entire playerbase is bronze (silver 5 starts at top 50%) there is no reason to have autofill turned on in quite literally the largest portion of the ladder.
SOOM (OCE)
: Sorry I didn’t account for losses, 40 losses in that champ so you play that champ at around a P5 level yet you are bronze
1. i have 1200 total games played so that champ accounts for less than 20% of all of my games. 2. Autofill exists and makes up on average about 33% of my games (bronze mmr has autofill turned on, which is retarded since autofill is a system meant for challenger to stop the 30 minute queue, not so bronzies can shave 30 seconds off their 2 minute queue then lose to a lux support mid main who built deathcap and self shields) 3. doesnt mean i play to a plat 5 level as thats only my winrate in bronze, my winrate would go down as i go up in mmr until it stabalises at 50% once im in the mmr i belong in, but it does show that, when im playing that champion at the very least, that i am below the correct mmr for my account. 4: Bonus point: This accounts flex mmr is around gold-plat (yes its flex, yes i got carried there by giving up my role to play support instead then just basically afking free wins) i have experienced what its like to play against a diamond 5 lucian top. I did not feed, i lost the match, but did not lose the lane, do i believe i shouldve beaten the diamond lucian? no im bronze, but i did hold my own, i remember thinking to myself the entire match "if this is what diamond players are actually like mechanics wise why do people revere them so much" as i went 3/1 in lane. Could that lucian have been elo boosted? who knows, i dont really care. all i know is, i was able to hold my own against a player who is supposedly in the top 10% of the entire region, meanwhile i cant 1v9 in the bottom 90th percentile. i call bullshit on that, because that just displays the gross inaccuracies of the mmr system in outlier cases. If you were the ask the question of where i truly believe i shouldve been? probably somewhere around silver 4, not that much better than where i was but still better, and the winrate supports that theory, because thats only an increase of 2-3 tiers. Ive also played in silver 4 and experienced about a 50% winrate there so i can say honestly that that is likely where i am on an overall skill level, i may be higher than that was cass mechanics who knows, but if i am that just means that im worse than that somewhere else which is equalizing me out there. if you asked where i think i shouldve been at the very least even if i wasnt at s4? b1 easily, because even within b1 i was able to maintain a positive winrate, so i know im higher than b1 or at the very least in the upper echelons of that particular skill bracket. (keeping in mind the account that got ripped was ybr not this one, ybr was b2, i havnt played this account for many moons and do not own cass on this account)
: King raid top pvp ladder rely on 3 things. PAY TO WIN with high star UW vsing offline And HIGH T5 pvp team comp League need a deeper understanding of the small details to carry. Example csing, wave control, winning trade, push objective, snowball etc. If you were to vs a bunch of lv10 that just started the game, you would carry despite how shit your team is.
And that simple understanding of the game is why you arent on the ladder. Myself and some of the other high end pvp and world boss players spend hours theorycrafting team comps together, keeping in mind im friends with liarspoker, iampaul, siigari, hell i play league with Nidoran (top 20 NA worldboss), kgaming is a member of a community i moderate instead of me being a member of his community. We dont just slap anything together smash our credit card into the phone then call it a day, the only people who think that are the people who have the misfortune of vsing us. And ofc i would carry if i was against level 10 players in league, because im better than said level 10 players, thats how that works. As the players around you get closer and closer to your skill level it gets harder and harder to carry until you pass the event horizon and despite being visibly better than those around you, you can no longer hard carry a 1v9 game, this is what we call "the grind" then as you keep playing you slowly rise until you are matched against players you actually are equal with, this is when you stop hard carrying all together because you are now equal. The problem i was having with my teams wasnt that my teams were too shit to carry. its that even though i was far better than my teams i myself wasnt good enough to carry them, so i was stuck in an endless loop of stomping my lane consistently then flipping a coin as to whether the other two lanes went even, if they bot and top went even i won, if bot or two won, i won even harder, if bot or top lost i generally also lost because i wasnt good enough to make up the skill difference between the players on my lane that lost and the players on their team that won. Because thats what a hard carry is, a player so good that they overcome any skill differences between their team and the opposing team, its not good enough to be better, you have to be so much better that you make up for every member of your team that isnt puling their weight, or every member of the enemy team that is pulling more than their weight. Take for instance winrates, my 70% winrate meant that there was a 30% chance of losing if i was playing cass, that means 7 games out of 10 i could hard carry a team, or at the very least be better than my opponent. 3 games out of ten i would either be worse than me opponent or be matched with players that are so bad i cant carry them. Those are very good odds. So if i lose a game then notice that 2 players on my team had 24% winrates and another had 36% all i have to do is some quick maths in my head and realise the chance of winning that game was lower than 50%, the odds were stacked against me irregardless of my own performance, because even at my best, i could only manage a 70% winrate, when to carry two 24% players and a 36% would mean id need to make up for the fact that if you take all 5 players, give them a base winrate of 50% (equal team) add them together to get 250%, take away 66% (the sum of all the bad players bad winrate combined when subtracted from 50%) and you get 194% basically to win that game myself and the remaining player would need a combined winrate that can exceed the 66% loss, namely wed both need an 83% winrate, for the odds to come back to being even with the average opposing team. That math is very wrong when you look at it as statistics data, but im using wr as a loose measurement of skill level in relation to the players around you not the actual probabilistic chance of winning in that scenario, you know since we arent allowed to know our mmr's
: So because I told person A about how the punishment system works, I am therefore not allowed to tell person B (who is completely unrelated to person A and didn't see their post and the info within)??? Ah yes, because that is so very helpful to all involved isn't it. Has it ever occurred to you that not every response made on every thread is directed at you in some way? Perhaps we answer other people sometimes as well. >Confirmation bias I tried to engage with you way back when and you deflected or shot down every suggestion or advice I offered you. It doesn't exactly make for healthy discussion. It became very clear very quickly that it didn't matter to you how genuine someone was in their desire to help you, if they said something you didn't agree with then they were being patronising. But sure, I was the abrasive one. >Volunteer circle-jerk My studying psych for 3 years is about as relevant as your knowledge of coding or telomeres Mr "academics mean superiority". I don't pretend everything I say is correct, I've made mistakes before and I've owned them, which is more than you can say. You're utterly convince that you are 100% correct and there is no way that any of us 'scum volunteers' could ever have anything insightful to say because we so much as dared to disagree with you. >Echo chamber Strange echo chamber, far as I can tell most of the loudest people on boards are the ones that are the most critical of Riot and therefore us, but sure, we're just positively affirmed of our worth at every turn aren't we? Frankly, this is a relatively thankless job. If you think that's why we do it then you're mistaken. >If you have a rebuttle that i havnt heard from you a thousand times before and isnt just the same message paraphrased, id love to hear it, but i highly doubt that. I could say the same to you. If you think taking your team hostage and coercing them into certain behaviours under threat of feeding is justified because you dislike Riot, then you are a very...shall we say, interesting kind of person. "Oh no Fred said mean things to me but he's a country away so I guess I'll just beat up Adam instead cause he lives next door. It's justified."
No you can tell person A and person B. But read between the lines and determine if person B actually doesnt know about the system yet. Because its pretty easy to tell the difference. Take myself, the number of times i have been told to report something to support instead of bitching about it on the boards is insane, like almost triple digits. Ofc i already reported it to support before i came to the boards, the reason i came to the boards to bitch about it was to draw attention to it as a failsafe for when support eventually copy pastas a response and sweeps it under the rug like they always do. _______ The reason i shot down your advice is because it was wrong dude, which falls under the volunteer circle jerk portion, just because your name is green doesnt mean everything you say is gospel. ______ Awesome you study psychology, so you must be aware of the socio normative function called homophilly. Aka the reason why a toxic community makes other people behave in a toxic manner. Also the reason why every time you interact with me you seem to be more and more aggressive, because over time by being exposed to this community you are becoming more toxic. i remember when you were just happy go lucky seras and i didnt hate your guts, that feels like years ago. ______ For your last point, you are correct the entire contents of this post are just regurgitated from previous posts but with fancier words, like homophilly. But thats because a regurgitated response requests a regurgitated reubttle. I will patiently await your response ive already heard before. On the other hand if you actually do manage to say something new for once i will happily respond with a different post because im not a broken record, im just the idiot attempting to answer the broken records questions.
: >Due to your existence we dont get responses from riot They respond a lot more when they don't have to wade through all the nothing and repeats. Where you been at you think there's less responses lol. And btw I wrote all those essays just for you! No copy pasting there.
Pro-tip dont take things so literally. Copy paste response, is the modern version of "Broken record" which is what you are. A broken record that repeats the exact same message on every post you ever reply on just with different wordings. here ill break down literally everything you have ever said to me in my entire time on this board across all my accounts. "Negativity bias" "The problem is you not us" Thats actually basically it, i cant think of anything else thats noteworthy. And to rebuttle your broken record ill use my own broken record response to yours. "Confirmation bias" "Volunteer circle-jerk" "Echo chamber" And since our little exchanges tend to have more meat ill expand on that. Confirmation bias: The naive idea that simply because i am toxic towards you in our interactions that must mean i am toxic at all times which proves your other points. Reality: im toxic towards you because of your attitude being abrasive towards me, this goes for the community as a whole, if you go through my chat logs you will find i am never the instigator, i dont wake up in the morning thinking "mmmm how can i piss people off today" i react to the people who do that, but i am not that person myself. In other words if you wanted to be able to have a normal discussion with me without me attacking you and treating you as less than human, you should have avoided being abrasive in the first place, because you pushed that boulder down the hill months ago and its still rolling today, im toxic towards you because i perceived you are being arrogant, youre continuing to be arrogant because im toxic to you, its a vicious cycle that will never end, because im not willing to change, and youre too arrogant to realize you are part of the problem. Volunteer circle-jerk: Everything i say is correct because im a volunteer. Reality: you are a normal community member with a fancy name, not a psychiatrist calm your tits. Echo chamber: Look at all these people who agree with me that must mean im right. Reality: lots of people agreed with hitler whats your point. If you have a rebuttle that i havnt heard from you a thousand times before and isnt just the same message paraphrased, id love to hear it, but i highly doubt that.
: For all your academia you seem to misunderstand a lot about psychology. Noone is a perfect upstanding citizen, but even before you were blatantly toxic and were getting minor chat restrictions, you were not fun to play with. Anyone looking at your logs could see that. So yes, I do wholeheartedly believe that you are a significant contributing factor to the constant negativity you experience in League. I believe that it is a vicious cycle, wherein you frustrate your team and bring out the casual toxics, exposure to which makes you more toxic, which makes them more and so on and so forth until you pull out some prime BS like the chat log you linked here and finally get yourself permabanned. Overwatch is just as toxic, and you are just as likely to have some rando abusing you for no reason. The difference in your case is the assumption. You assume that all the people in a League game are going to be toxic, and so you make it so by behaving badly to them, where that is not the case in other games. Self fulfilling prophecy and all that. You've given me more than enough evidence in your long post history here for me to make comfortable assumptions on all that. It isn't League that hat the midas touch, it's you.
I mean seras if overwatch is as toxic as league. Why dont i experience toxicity there. I mean if im the one making the people around me toxic, why is it that i only experience toxicity when i play league, and only behave in a toxic manner when i play league. Im not saying in other games everyones perfect and assholes dont exist, you do get the occasional reaper main screeching about his ana buff. But the keyword was occasional, its not an expectation that you will experience that in a game. When i play league i know the second i hit that queue button that someone is going to screech and moan to our jungler that they didnt gank them while they go 0/8 at some point in my day. Someone is going to not ward then bitch that no one mias when they get assraped by a roam. Someone is going to make the most retarded baron call i have ever seen and throw the entire game while i stand there mouth agape dumb founded as to why my team even listened to the guy while we have 2 waves of supers in our base and a vayne on our nexus towers. Those are things i can guarantee will happen at some point if i play league for more than one game per day. I cant the same about other games. Id also assume that that kind of behaviour doesnt happen in higher ranks, simply because in higher ranks people dont make such retarded mistakes to cause such shit. Which all stems back to the most toxic part of the league community. The assumption that because someone is bronze their opinion is invalid. If you want to experience what i experience, ill give you the username and password to this account, and you can go play a few ranked games in the elo i play in. We will see how long you can bare it. And i meant that btw, like i will literally just give you the account so you can see with your own eyes just how fucking toxic the community gets in super low silver/bronze because its a completely different game to the higher ranks. Ive played in plat and diamond elo games, yeah they yell at each other sometimes, but atleast they are intelligent enough to know when they are wrong and drop the argument. Bronzies cant even manage that, so its just a never ending argument, the only way to not tilt off the face of the planet here is to /mute all at the start of the game and flip a coin that your team wont do anything retarded since you wont be able to tell them to stop.
: From what i read. It seem league is a big part of your life, and not doing well in league ranking is upsetting you. BUT! REMEMBER. At the end of the day, this is a game, your not gonna make a career out of it, not exactly a hot topic to talks about when going out either. Win/losing in this game can be frustrating at time; But remember! it a game, 1-2years from now you will probly move on to others things. So relax.
I dont want to make a career out of it. When i play games i play them competitively, both with myself and those around me. For example i currently play a game called kings raid. I am rank 15 in europe for that games arena system. Because its 1v1, i only have to rely on myself and my own skills, so i was able to spend 4 months constantly improving as a player, in turn playing against better players, which forced me to adapt and improve to beat them, which matched me against better players etc etc. I hold the achievement for rank 1 in that server aswell held it for 2 "seasons" (seasons last a week due to the way their reward system works) I have the capability to improve vastly in any game i play as long as i am constantly being matched against people on or above my own skill level. Hell even within league, despite me being a bronze player, this account, kaynmid, has a flex queue mmr of platinum, i queue solo, want to know why? because i adapted to the queue and played differently till i was able to acquire a positive winrate while being matched against players from high gold to low diamond. i at one point supported a bronze draven main in that queue to beat a diamond lucian, by again adapting to being against a better player. Being stuck in bronze because the players around me are shit denies me the opportunity to improve as a player because i dont have better players to test myself against. My reason for wanting to play ranked is purely in me wanting to improve as a player. Despite making constant improvements to my play that i was able to visibly see in my stats sheet and also feel in general play, i went no where, because for every good game i played i would tilt off the face of the planet and int 2 more, and then 2 days later id fall back into my same habits because im not being forced to use the new skills i just learned because bronze players are so bad that i can literally win a game by running it down bot as thresh adc and go 2/13 while split pushing towers, a diamond team wouldnt let me do that, a bronze team fingers their asshole and wonders why they are losing while i suicide their nexus towers. Take the whole b1 incident that led to this permanent ban. i played 24 games in a row, i won 17 of them. Basically i did b1 promos 4 times, in one day, with a 70% winrate for that day, despite getting 7 teams that threw the game by either trolling, playing shit, or poking the bear and getting inted. In other games communities (and i can attest to this) we would look at a performance like that and say "gee mate you belong in a higher tier" here in league we say "hurrrr if you were better youd be higher" So despite me knowing myself that i improved as a player, the fact that said improvement was shit on by the players around me simply because matchmaking decided that i was winning too many games in a row and decided to handicap me (at one point the average mmr of my team was 200mmr lower than the enemy team in one of my promos with 2 of my teammates having ~24% winrates according to op.gg) feels pretty shit, and things that feel pretty shit make you feel like shit, and when i feel like shit because of something outside of my control i lash out at the person controlling said thing for making me feel like shit, because i want them to feel as shit as i feel so that they comprehend what they are doing.
: I mean... if you have an 80% win rate over 200 games, 7 troll teams doesn't lower it to 65%
hes looking at the preseason winrate which only had ~30 games played total. The other 180+ games were played in season 6
Maraudaur (OCE)
: Thank you and farewell
Great so one of the only people in riot who actually gave a shit about oce is gone. Thats a bloody omen if ever ive seen one.
KaynMid (OCE)
: On that note, lets say it is just a case of negativity bias, and i have somehow altered all my memories of playing league to include a shit%%%% on my team. You dont just accidentally a negativity bias, something really shitty has to occur in a consistent basis to make you hate something enough to cause such a bias. Which just ends up looping around to "the community is shit because the community makes everything it touches shit"
Like i honestly would say its not inaccurate to say that the league of legends community has the toxicity equivelent of the midas touch
KaynMid (OCE)
: Ok so which one is it seras. Are all my arguments rendered innate because i clearly suffer from a case of negativity bias. or Is the fact that i actually did have experiences as bad as i made them out to be completely irrelevant because you dont care about anyones experience playing league unless they are perfect upstanding citizens. Because need i remind you, league is not the only game i play. league is however the only game that makes me want to kill myself dealing with the toxic ass community. If i was the problem id feel that way in every single game i play, not just this particular shitty corner of the internet. Like you seem to enjoy the concept that "if you experience constant toxicity the problem is you" So if i can consistently play every other game on the planet except maybe mario party and not be toxic at all. But within about 5 minutes of playing league i want to bash someones head in. Does that not mean that the problem is league, seeing as i am constantly NOT toxic when not playing league and league CONSTANTLY brings out my toxicity? Food for thought. Hell its not even the genre either, because i also play dota 2, played mxm from closed beta till shutdown announcment, paragon, supanova, etc etc. Perfectly calm in all of them, league, toxic as fuck. Why do you think that is? hell its even a well known meme that league is the game you play if you want to die of a salt overdose.
On that note, lets say it is just a case of negativity bias, and i have somehow altered all my memories of playing league to include a shit%%%% on my team. You dont just accidentally a negativity bias, something really shitty has to occur in a consistent basis to make you hate something enough to cause such a bias. Which just ends up looping around to "the community is shit because the community makes everything it touches shit"
: >I explained negativity bias, and how "constant toxicity" is an exaggeration however you look at it unless you yourself are contributing. =/= >well you cant actually have toxic people in all your games now can you
Ok so which one is it seras. Are all my arguments rendered innate because i clearly suffer from a case of negativity bias. or Is the fact that i actually did have experiences as bad as i made them out to be completely irrelevant because you dont care about anyones experience playing league unless they are perfect upstanding citizens. Because need i remind you, league is not the only game i play. league is however the only game that makes me want to kill myself dealing with the toxic ass community. If i was the problem id feel that way in every single game i play, not just this particular shitty corner of the internet. Like you seem to enjoy the concept that "if you experience constant toxicity the problem is you" So if i can consistently play every other game on the planet except maybe mario party and not be toxic at all. But within about 5 minutes of playing league i want to bash someones head in. Does that not mean that the problem is league, seeing as i am constantly NOT toxic when not playing league and league CONSTANTLY brings out my toxicity? Food for thought. Hell its not even the genre either, because i also play dota 2, played mxm from closed beta till shutdown announcment, paragon, supanova, etc etc. Perfectly calm in all of them, league, toxic as fuck. Why do you think that is? hell its even a well known meme that league is the game you play if you want to die of a salt overdose.
KaynMid (OCE)
: Heres the thing you dont get, you literally just said "such as a direct line to riot" Ok so you have that line available. If you want to make the community a better place use that tool that has been made available to you to do so. Repeatedly regurgitating the same information that we all already know helps no one and only serves to agitate the community more. When jazza up here realises that a player who honestly should be permanently banned is still playing 2 years later due to shitty support and you tell him "just make a support ticket" you have helped no one and only served to make jazza think less of you whether he may admit that or not because you have shown you cant actually help or wont help. If you were to instead use said direct line to say Hey "insert person you can talk to in riot here" i noticed this thread that seems to expose a rather important issue, maybe you should look at this And then inform jazza that you have notified the higher ups you will get infinitely more praise than being yet another copy pasted response bot. I mean hell theres a reason everyone on the bloody planet hates customer supports that just give you the same bloody response to any question that it remotely applies to, its because they are useless and a waste of time. meanwhile customer supports that actually do things to help the customer are universally loved. The same applies to yourself.
Like i will not sugar coat this, part of the reason why i hate this community so much, is because of you volunteers. Due to your existence we dont get responses from riot, and the one time a rioter actually noticed a post i made about how fucking toxic my teams are, guess what happened? the guy i was bitching about got perma banned because they very quickly realised "oh shit hes right" Constantly getting the same fucking copy paste response wore my patience down over the years until i became jaded and bitter towards you and the rest of them. You arent trying to please the people that like you, they will like you no matter what, you could fling shit at them and they will still act like the sun shines out your ass. You are trying to win people like myself over, the people who have no idea why you exist or what purpose you serve. If you only ever work in your echo chamber of "oh man this small little segment of the community appreciates me" no problems will ever get fixed.
HeartVine (OCE)
: See the thing you've failed to mention is that the volunteers do more than just "sift through the sh!t". A lot of what we do is discussion and explanation, discussing various issues, concerns and points of interest that the players bring to the boards (and occasionally taking the initiative to start the discussion), and explaining how the in-game systems work (or, rather, how they're supposed to work based on the information Riot has given the players. You have the Instructors who'll discuss and explain the gameplay side of things, who's strong in the current meta, what runes work well with which champions, etc (I'm fairly certain, at least). You have the Wrenchmen who discuss and explain the technical side of things, such as helping fix common technical problems. You have the Emissaries who discuss and explain the Player Behaviour side of things, how systems like Leavebuster and the IFS work, why it's wrong to say things like "kill yourself" (just as an example), etc. I can't blame Riot for having someone else "sift through the sh!t" though, because, lets face it, most of it is sh!t. I've been doing this kind of thing pretty much all year, and pretty much all the time it comes down to "player comes to the boards to complain about being punished despite having been blatantly toxic". Sure, you have the occasional (or should I say rare) player who you'll explain it to and it'll click and they'll realise they were in the wrong, but most of the time you'll get the generic "that's completely unfair" or "they started it so why am I getting punished" or "why am I getting punished and they aren't" and it pretty much always ends with something along the lines of "f*ck you Rito". Quite frankly, I can't help but feel glad those kinds of players get punished. I know no one has asked, but if you want to know why I accepted the offer to be a volunteer, it's just a convenience thing, it's not like it's a favour to Riot or anything. Like I said, I've been doing pretty much the same sh!t since around the start of the year and it's just easier to do that kind of thing with the resources available via the volunteer program (such as a direct line to the Rioters). Pretty much, I see people who don't seem to understand how a system works, or how what they said/did was wrong, and I feel like I should try my best to help them understand. Then when all is said and done, I think it does help alleviate the stress of it all from the OCE Rioters, like Marauder and Gehirn (just the first two to come to mind), the *people* who sludge through the muck for the "big brass" at central to try their best to make OCE an enjoyable experience, with things like Ocean Week. The people who actually care about the community. You can say I'm "white knighting" it all you want, I don't care. What I know is, I'm not doing it for the likes of you.
Heres the thing you dont get, you literally just said "such as a direct line to riot" Ok so you have that line available. If you want to make the community a better place use that tool that has been made available to you to do so. Repeatedly regurgitating the same information that we all already know helps no one and only serves to agitate the community more. When jazza up here realises that a player who honestly should be permanently banned is still playing 2 years later due to shitty support and you tell him "just make a support ticket" you have helped no one and only served to make jazza think less of you whether he may admit that or not because you have shown you cant actually help or wont help. If you were to instead use said direct line to say Hey "insert person you can talk to in riot here" i noticed this thread that seems to expose a rather important issue, maybe you should look at this And then inform jazza that you have notified the higher ups you will get infinitely more praise than being yet another copy pasted response bot. I mean hell theres a reason everyone on the bloody planet hates customer supports that just give you the same bloody response to any question that it remotely applies to, its because they are useless and a waste of time. meanwhile customer supports that actually do things to help the customer are universally loved. The same applies to yourself.
: I've given you your long responses. I've told you how your behaviour, even when it wasn't all that bad, was generating toxicity by creating a negative attitude. I explained to you how you could improve not only your own behaviour but encourage others to be positive as well. I explained in excruciating detail how there will always be toxicity in online games, but how you handle it determines whether it has a lasting effect on your or not. How you can control your own behaviour, but can only encourage the behaviour of others. I explained negativity bias, and how "constant toxicity" is an exaggeration however you look at it *unless* you yourself are contributing. But you didn't want to listen. You never wanted to listen. You wanted to rant and you wanted people to agree with you, then got mad when they didn't. I *tried* to help you. Many times. But you can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped. So tell me, why should I bother giving you a respectful essay length response, if you are simply going to completely ignore it and tell me how stupid I am? It's at this point I mute and move on in game and out.
Simple, because you are a representative of riot, a volunteer but still a representative. if i was your boss id fire you for making the company look bad. On top of that you never helped me, you deflected my arguments. You never once considered "ok so what if he actually does encounter as many toxic people as he says he does" because i do trust me, i do. out of those 24 games in only 3 of the teams did i have a nice calm game where no one yelled at each other. The longer you ignore the way this community is with the cop out excuse of "well you cant actually have toxic people in all your games now can you" the worse the community will get.
: 65%
it only went to 65% after the 7 troll teams from that day buddo, try harder next time.
: > [{quoted}](name=HeartVine,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=2LeJ7nMp,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-11-29T16:06:14.086+0000) > > Look, I know it's probably fun and cool and "in" to be whinging about how the volunteers are "white knighting" it for Riot, but I've just got to know... > > The actual f*ck do you expect us to do? > > And I really hope you put some effort into actually answering that question because I think whatever response you come up with that *does* answer that question will be either: > > * You confirming that the volunteers have no real power, and that basically all we can do is tell people to "send it to customer support" ***OR*** > * You fabricating a list of assumed powers that the volunteers have despite the fact that we have no real power and basically all we can do is tell people to "send it to customer support" > > And either way, it's going to be f*cking hilarious. Stop getting baited by an idiot. That's YellowBrickRoad, in case you don't know. His posts are single-digit IQ worthy. Just ignore his whiny attempts at getting sympathy and move on.
if someone says something smart and you dont understand it the human instinct is to call them an idiot. For example Galileo famous for pronouncing that the earth is spherical in nature, was deemed an idiot and not worth listening to by his society due to that fact of human nature. If you dont understand what i say so badly that you think im stupid, you should probably look in the mirror. Because unlike you (clearly) im an academic, that subscribes to the school of logic, irregardless of what you may think of my personality, there is no denying that I am intelligent, 90% of this board wouldnt understand what im talking about if i went on a 3 hour rant about the intricacies of obfuscated code, or the possible use cases of telomere modification using the crispr delivery method in curing cancer. And thats fine, people are allowed to be stupid, they can just be stupid somewhere i cant see them, which is the reason im so fucking toxic in league, i look at these people who have the brain capacity of a fucking snail and it literally pisses me off that they are allowed to sully the gene pool. That may sound like im memeing or something because if you replaced stupid people with jews id sound hitler esque, but i fucking mean it. Im not going to go commit genocide over it, but if i was hitler id be targeting retards instead. And you could argue "but just because they are bad doesnt mean they are stupid" but id argue otherwise. I could agree if by bad you mean mechanics, thats fine because thats muscle memory and something you train over time. Nonono im talking about reflexes, and decision making skills. I dont care if a bronzie makes a bad player, because even faker makes bad plays sometimes when hes agaisnt an opponent from the same skill bracket. What i care about is if they make a bad decision, or react extremely slowly to things. Lets give you an example one of the games i played that day had a bot lane with an extremely slow reaction speed. i pinged i was going in 3 times, to get their attention. Blast planted over the wall start the clock now. Walked for 3 seconds to wards their adc. Survived for another 6 seconds. Then 2 seconds later the adc noticed and started walking to the fight. Thats a reaction speed of 11 seconds. To put that into perspective thats 5500% longer than the average human, if you displayed a mental prowess that has you calculating information that slowly, youd be diagnosed with a learning disability, aka youd literally be called retarded.
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: Maybe you shouldn’t play kayn mid :))))
This was on yellowbrickroad, so it was cass mid actually, my 80% winrate over 200 games played cass mid.
HeartVine (OCE)
: Look, I know it's probably fun and cool and "in" to be whinging about how the volunteers are "white knighting" it for Riot, but I've just got to know... The actual f*ck do you expect us to do? And I really hope you put some effort into actually answering that question because I think whatever response you come up with that *does* answer that question will be either: * You confirming that the volunteers have no real power, and that basically all we can do is tell people to "send it to customer support" ***OR*** * You fabricating a list of assumed powers that the volunteers have despite the fact that we have no real power and basically all we can do is tell people to "send it to customer support" And either way, it's going to be f*cking hilarious.
Seeing as i do community management for multiple communities, yes it will be hilarious destroying you. So lets begin, you are correct that you have no real power. lets get that out of the way straight away. But that doesnt mean youre right, see if you have no real power, then why the fuck do you exist? what is your purpose, aside from suckling ritos teat. The reason riot "hired" you was to be an interim member between the red posters and the community, someone we can go to, to get riots attention seeing as they are so busy, weather you are aware of them or not i have no doubt that the tools to contact marauder or something like that are in your toolkit somewhere. Id imagine there is a privledge locked board that only emissaries and riot members can see, you know that board isnt there for you to talk about how much you get dicked by riot. its there for you to message riot employees and discuss cases that you feel should be brought to their attention without them having to wade through all the bullshit of a normal thread. Because if they wanted someone to reply "send it to community support" you know what they would do? Make a bot. What you are doing, is so fucking useless, that they could replace you, with a fucking bot. HOWEVER if you do infact have literally 0 tools to contact any staff and ultimately you are just a fancy colored name, then guess what. Youre a ponzi. You are literally just a scapegoat for riot, and proof riot does not care about its community, because if riot cared about its community they wouldve given you tools to help with said community, instead of making you a walking talking white knight public relations bot. try to address that without straw-manning, ill bet you any money you cant, because you know its right. Edit: Actually no i left a vector open for attack so lets close that. Lets say riot give you that board to contact them, and they dont respond. That comes under the whole "youre a ponzi" section. There we go i cant find any holes in my argument now.
: So while searching for a suitable Support ticket
"Oh yeah, and for Lord Sesshomaru, here is a showing of how shitty Riot support are." I love how the fact that the community volunteer staff just ride riots dick and white knight for them all the time is starting to become well known. like seriously fuck them they dont actually help shit with their "send it to customer support" bullshit.
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