: just using a simple match history search is even more ridiculous i've played 100 ranked games this season and it was astounding the amount of people who were in bronze for 4 seasons in a row a lot of people in low ELO simply just don't improve or are trolling
> [{quoted}](name=SirGrugglesworth,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=JgfHvIs3,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-11-12T07:34:51.413+0000) > > just using a simple match history search is even more ridiculous > > i've played 100 ranked games this season and it was astounding the amount of people who were in bronze for 4 seasons in a row > > a lot of people in low ELO simply just don't improve or are trolling That is indeed troubling. You would expect that from experience comes some sort of improvement. We need the tribunal in tandem with the current system to make a start at weeding out trolls.
xSynx (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Kiryuuin Satsuki,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=JgfHvIs3,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-11-11T13:27:41.545+0000) > > I don't get it. Before the 2016 season ended, I was climbing from S5 to S3 with relative ease, winning games back to back and on winning streaks. Come the new patch and provisionals, and I've been getting matched with what seems like people who don't know how to play the game and trolls. As though all the baddies and trolls who gave up playing during the mid year and end year come back for the pre-season. Tell me your thoughts and matches. I've seen this kind of trend every year, and with the tribunal gone, well toxicity ain't gonna get any better. The tribunal was like a court room back then, dishing out justice where it was needed. Now we have a robot take over for a court room, can you believe it if they tried that in real life? Riot, get your game on and give power back to the players. I dislike this post in a few ways, firstly, Flex isn't based off solo MMR, myself as a bronze player has been consistently matched with golds and above, last game I even had a challenger main as the enemy ADC. The reason why people are ragey and salty is because of this. Not everyone can play the game with the skills of higher elo (Plat+), some of us are what most people from those brackets would call "Bads" or "Baddies". What im trying to say is, people need to be a little more considerate when playing in Flex as the MMR differences are crazy and well.. some of us aren't faker and can't compete at that level. Another point id like to make is LoL has always been one of the worst communities, if not the worst, for toxic and abusive behavior. It ain't never going to change im afraid. As for some other people calling others trash and being ragey, you aren't helping in any way shape or form, especially when you come across a lower elo player, start calling them trash and bad, how do you expect that person to get better when no ones willing to hand out some friendly advice and maybe help the person instead of raging and calling them names. It doesn't make people play better, your actually shooting yourself in the foot by lowering that persons self esteem. This is where people turn from good people to bad (toxic/abusive/trolls) kind of people.
> [{quoted}](name=xSynx,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=JgfHvIs3,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-11-14T12:14:29.034+0000) > > I dislike this post in a few ways, firstly, Flex isn't based off solo MMR, myself as a bronze player has been consistently matched with golds and above, last game I even had a challenger main as the enemy ADC. The reason why people are ragey and salty is because of this. Not everyone can play the game with the skills of higher elo (Plat+), some of us are what most people from those brackets would call "Bads" or "Baddies". > > What im trying to say is, people need to be a little more considerate when playing in Flex as the MMR differences are crazy and well.. some of us aren't faker and can't compete at that level. > > Another point id like to make is LoL has always been one of the worst communities, if not the worst, for toxic and abusive behavior. It ain't never going to change im afraid. > > As for some other people calling others trash and being ragey, you aren't helping in any way shape or form, especially when you come across a lower elo player, start calling them trash and bad, how do you expect that person to get better when no ones willing to hand out some friendly advice and maybe help the person instead of raging and calling them names. It doesn't make people play better, your actually shooting yourself in the foot by lowering that persons self esteem. This is where people turn from good people to bad (toxic/abusive/trolls) kind of people. Yeah I found out the hard way that this Flex Q is not based on Solo Q MMR. But Riot do admit that Flex Q is broken and has only made a band-aid for it. You can read up on it on S@20. As for the rage and calling other trash, I'm sure you are directing it at those who do act in this particular way. Just in case you were directing it at me, if it helps, I do have a honor badge for being friendly for 3 seasons straight. So I know what you mean and how you feel about the community. It does sadden me that the trolls and baddies (as in bad mannered players) far out weigh the good and decent people like you and I. That is why I really want the tribunal to make a come back in tandem with the current system. Like I said in the opening post, you can't let a machine do work that is something like a court room.
Mortis Ex (OCE)
: The trolls are insane, just had a game we were winning, then about 15 mins in our jungler and sup go afk in fountain at the same time without a word said in game chat so im pretty sure they were duo. Finish game and they are both still connected, post game lobby names white, they leave after a min without saying anything. The next game get a mid lee who feeds and trolls and /all flames me saying I fed my lane opp when im 3-0-2 and all of Wu's kills were on lee. coz he wont listen to mias. Then the ashe joins in saying I fed the 10-1 vayne. Then there is this whole weighted reports thing, so I get unlucky and get trolls in a lot of games, but they arent getting punished coz they dont do it in "enough" games for the system to register, does that mean rito thinks im lying and starts ignoring my reports? It seems that way. 3 of 4 placements get trolled. Wow this is a fun environment to play in isnt it?
> [{quoted}](name=Mortis Ex,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=JgfHvIs3,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-11-12T05:15:21.009+0000) > > The trolls are insane, just had a game we were winning, then about 15 mins in our jungler and sup go afk in fountain at the same time without a word said in game chat so im pretty sure they were duo. Finish game and they are both still connected, post game lobby names white, they leave after a min without saying anything. The next game get a mid lee who feeds and trolls and /all flames me saying I fed my lane opp when im 3-0-2 and all of Wu's kills were on lee. coz he wont listen to mias. Then the ashe joins in saying I fed the 10-1 vayne. > Then there is this whole weighted reports thing, so I get unlucky and get trolls in a lot of games, but they arent getting punished coz they dont do it in "enough" games for the system to register, does that mean rito thinks im lying and starts ignoring my reports? It seems that way. > 3 of 4 placements get trolled. Wow this is a fun environment to play in isnt it? I know how you feel. Had a Yorick give up and AFK just because he got ganked a second time for pushing and not warding.
: Dynamic queue/"Ranked Flex"
1+ This is bonkers. I've been getting afk, rage quitters and trolls for all 10 of my ranked flex, got into B5. But my solo rank is still S3. Where are the other ranked queues?
: Pre-season provisionals: Trolls and baddies are making a come back
I have a theory about how the community works during the year. So around pre-season and the start of the new season, everyone jumps on, baddies, trolls, good players, those who are and will climb from true determination and the rest. From around the start of the season to mid year, a lot of the baddies and trolls who fail nearly every year try again but fall face flat, ruin games for everyone but will eventually stop playing ranked or play a lot less. So the ranked games get a little better. As mid year rolls into end of the year, end of the season, nearly all the baddies and trolls who know they can't climb also quit. We are then left with the good players and mainly those who will climb from true determination and hard work. But then the cycle starts over when the season ends and pre-season begins.
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Wuks (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Kiryuuin Satsuki,realm=OCE,application-id=pEj6Ee6n,discussion-id=yhgHnHB4,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2016-06-19T10:15:23.710+0000) > > Bravo, bravo! Good work with the emblems, which do nothing at all. I call this Riot spitting in the face of the players. Once Overwatch ranked comes in, goodbye League of Legends. Just to reiterate, Riot's aware this isn't the fix-all solution and is looking into other solutions as well. >With solo queue gone, there needs to be better recognition of individual achievement. We're committed to solving this problem, and we think this implementation of ranked emblems probably won't completely solve this issue for the players who are least happy with dynamic queue. We're seeing emblems as one step towards a better system, not as the end-all-be-all solution to the problem. We want to see how this is received before we move on to other options (and we are looking at other options).
I would be more happy with Riot just telling everyone they are working on something and keep at it. Adding emblems is not even a step towards a solution let alone anything meaningful. It is simply a vanity item that contributes nothing towards the problem.
: I could duo with you, currently climbing out of B4 and main support
Sure thing. I accepted your invite and will see you on SR soon.
: Rethinking Ranked Fives and Tuning Dynamic Queue
Bravo, bravo! Good work with the emblems, which do nothing at all. I call this Riot spitting in the face of the players. Once Overwatch ranked comes in, goodbye League of Legends.
Hejibeji (OCE)
: Lf motivated players
I'm a former S2, but now B3 due to dynamic soloQ. Looking to get back into silver and main JG/support and can do other roles except mid. I play nearly every evening till late.
Tyrantar (OCE)
: Silver 4 looking for duo partner to reach gold
I'm happy to help you out as I am climbing again (former S2, now B3 due to dynamic soloQ) back into Silver and hopefully get to Gold as well. I have all the chatting clients. I play nearly every evening till late.
: LF Dynamic Duo Partner
I'm also looking for an ADC to support or just anyone to duo with in general. I'm a former S2 that has had a terrible time this season 6 due to dynamic soloQ. Currently B3 but can for sure play on a higher level. I also got Curse, Raidcall, Discord and ... yes Skype. I'm on every evening till late. IGN: Kiryuuin Satsuki

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