: How to solve the ranking system
> [{quoted}](name=The White Hatter,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=2rXnl1yq,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-01-03T10:02:58.382+0000) > > At the moment the ranking system only takes into consideration the amount of games that you win/lose to give you an LP score. It's based on winrate, as well as how your MMR compares to the ranks of the other players in your game. > Now, what if you were actually ranked by how YOU performed in the game based on Kills, Deaths, Assist, skills landed, etc? That would actually give a more accurate rank of the player itself rather than how a game ended up In that case you can just pick a super safe champion and farm scores. >if you put Faker on a team with a few feeders/trolls and you make them play against an all Diamond team, chances are, Faker's team will lose even tho he would have done really well. SoloQ doesn't match like that unless you're in the top % so that's irrelevant.
: I myself am an ADC main and I can very much feel the pain that you are when it comes to playing ADC at the moment, however after a lot of thinking about it over the past few months, I think that the position ADC is in actually makes a lot of sense when you think about it. How I have come to this conclusion and how I hope to explain this is we first need to not look at ADC as a role, but ADC as ITS role in the team. Let me explain a bit more on this, when we think about ADC and its role in a team we think of high amounts of damage over an extended period of time. Like to the point where its not uncommon for them to be doing majority of the damage over an extended team fight. On the other end though pros must come with cons and that con is how squishy they are, how if caught out or not protected by their team how easily they can be killed. Now in the example you gave you said that why should a Syndra be allowed to walk up and kill you, or if she roamed bot lane why is she able to make you back away to your tower. Well in a sense that is the PRO of an mid laner. Packing high burst with long cooldowns. They are able to do that because they were designed to do that. Going back to the theme of with pros there must be cons, notice how I noted on long cooldowns. Most, if not all mid laners that I can think of at the moment in my head need these cooldowns to be up to do damage. So in the sense of a team fight if your front line is able to force the enemy mid laner to use their cooldowns on the tanks, instead of the ADCs, there we have the con of the mid laners. They have to pick how they want to use their cooldowns to disrupt the enemy team. When it comes down to it league of legends is a team game, sometimes its hard to think of it that way in the heat of solo queue xD but it very much is. Each person fills a role in each team and its your job to fill that role. As an ADC its your role to be doing all the damage that you can as safely as you can. With your support sometimes it can be their job to protect you, or they could be a diver with CC such as Leona and instead be more aggressive and set you up kills. ADC is a very difficult role to play in solo queue with this in mind because you in a sense have a very big con that can be taken advantage of easily. This is where we roll into how its difficult to balance the game around the different elos where people understand their roles and people who are still learning, the competitive players and all that fun stuff that I applaud Riot for doing so well at. If you are interested Riot actually did a panel at PAX Aus this year where they went in depth into balancing champions in what they called "Riot Games' Top 5 Pain in the Ass Champions to Balance" It was a very fun panel that I was lucky enough to attend and ask a question at that really gave an indepth look as to how they balance the game and I would defs recommend having a watch if you are interested in learning more. (Rengar is also one of the 5 champions featured as well.) [If you want a link to the vod you can find it here.](https://www.twitch.tv/pax2/v/100188744) -- I hope that helps explain a bit as to my thoughts as to the current state of ADC. If you want to chime in your thoughts on what I said go for it, and if there is any other questions I can answer specifically let me know as well. Good luck in your games and I will see you around! ~Elam
> [{quoted}](name=LGC Elam,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=23RRWQV1,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-01-01T06:05:24.377+0000) > > I myself am an ADC main and I can very much feel the pain that you are when it comes to playing ADC at the moment, however after a lot of thinking about it over the past few months, I think that the position ADC is in actually makes a lot of sense when you think about it. > > Well in a sense that is the PRO of an mid laner. Packing high burst with long cooldowns. They are able to do that because they were designed to do that. Going back to the theme of with pros there must be cons, notice how I noted on long cooldowns. Most, if not all mid laners that I can think of at the moment in my head need these cooldowns to be up to do damage. Katarina LUL
: Losing Promo's from Trolls and Bads?
>Is it just a low elo kind of problem? I don't know what you class as "low elo" but it happened in low Diamond for me as well. I'd usually just say you're not good enough to climb it but after my experience trying to get to D4 I feel your pain.
SaintSs (OCE)
: So you guys just gonna leave it like this?Still unclear why im banned
> [{quoted}](name= SaintSs,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=pEgZzUO3,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-01-02T01:04:13.847+0000) > > So you guys just gonna leave it like this?Still unclear why im banned You've been given all the information you need. No one here can help you, you have to pray Riot goes through your case (if you sent a Support ticket) and decides to give you another chance.
SEKAI (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheOneUser,realm=OCE,application-id=dQOcTl8O,discussion-id=K2TEQq7t,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-12-26T11:37:22.885+0000) > > the yas stood there as opposed to blinking onto the elise. maybe it was just lag Please give me the time stamp.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=dQOcTl8O,discussion-id=K2TEQq7t,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-26T11:41:54.478+0000) > > Please give me the time stamp. The video is already at the timestamp. No idea what he's talking about though, the only thing wrong with that clip is that his Q didn't play its animation.
: Bronze....
Dapey (OCE)
: Yasuo scripter... Give me your opinion.
I'm fairly certain this is a troll post but it looks like you're just pointing out whenever he uses W, which he uses like a very low-level player. As for CS, he had an average of 7.6 per minute, which is very low and not at all perfect.
Aretrix (OCE)
: Banned for Using Third Party Software
Any form of third-party software (custom skins, VOs, etc.) are able to get your account banned. If you are banned for using something harmless, prove that the only extra things you have used don't affect gameplay and Riot usually unbans the account.
: You're one sad person.
> [{quoted}](name=The Sad King,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=FAOlZG5J,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-12-25T10:15:16.659+0000) > > You're one sad person. Train your subjects.
: Help with Morgana
1. Almost always Q-E-W. 2. Standard support (Redemption, Locket, Sighstone, etc.). 3. Hit binds, shield whoever needs it, peel or get multi-ult depending on how the game/fight is going.
Monoki (OCE)
: Can we stop complaining about Lux?
> [{quoted}](name=Monoki,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=r19JEEE7,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-12-04T21:32:12.244+0000) > > yes they just did the star guardian thing but guys that's not even a new skin for lux, only an update and a bunch of new skins for OTHER CHAMPIONS! it wasn't JUST ABOUT LUX > It was originally only Lux, similar to how Battlecast was originally only Xerath. Also, being part of a group project doesn't support making a new skin so soon in any way.
: I DID NOTHING TILL THEY STARTED CCALLING ME BAD THEN I CALLED THEM BAD WHY DID ONLY ME GET SUSPENDED
> [{quoted}](name=Totally A Scrubb,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=grf793Vk,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-12-22T00:50:45.371+0000) > > I DID NOTHING TILL THEY STARTED CCALLING ME BAD THEN I CALLED THEM BAD WHY DID ONLY ME GET SUSPENDED You getting suspended doesn't mean they didn't as well. There are a lot of factors that go into this though, such as you consistently being toxic, and any previous punishments you've experienced. Also, if premade players all report one person, their reports have less weight than a single player, so no, being reported once by a premade group will not get you punished.
Jia1844 (OCE)
: Scripting
I got called out for using dodge scripts last night because I know how to not get hit by Xerath and Zac's E. This is in Diamond. Dw my dude, if you're innocent you'll be fine. If you're guilty, I hope you get banned.
: Macros are a grey area, and to my knowledge custom skin's programs are not bannable, only the specific ones that do other things (though riot did seem like they were moving to change this recently.)
> [{quoted}](name=Valor Carrys,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=Tz3TAdlu,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-12-21T13:16:06.189+0000) > > Macros are a grey area, and to my knowledge custom skin's programs are not bannable, only the specific ones that do other things (though riot did seem like they were moving to change this recently.) Any 3rd-party application to the game can be flagged and get you banned. If you can appeal and prove your innocence then they usually unban you, but simply using anything more than the game itself can get you banned unless Riot has stated otherwise in the last 6 months.
: randomly banned for exploits
Macros, custom skins, scripts, etc. can all get you banned.
: god ples help me i cant get out of silver with my feeding teammates 24/7 im so tilited beusce of it
Rioter Comments
Noki (OCE)
: The number game
Noki (OCE)
: The number game
Noki (OCE)
: The number game
Noki (OCE)
: The number game
Łæoña (OCE)
: Need help: Pls explain
Sounds like you just blanked or forgot things after a small break. You could try writing down your standard jungle path (or get an idea of them before the game) and deviate from that as necessary based on the game. Items are typically different every game but you can write down notes on what items are best for what situations.
Sneed (OCE)
: if you 'belong' in an elo then prove it by climbing. what point does your argument hold? nothing matters in the early stages of ranked - you can climb with a negative winrate.
> [{quoted}](name=Mesprit,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=8zV9U3sv,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-12-18T07:55:46.234+0000) > > nothing matters in the early stages of ranked - you can climb with a negative winrate. Sadly true. The amount of people I've seen the past few days with winrates less than 50% is astounding. This is people between Plat 2 and Challenger. > [{quoted}](name=GBG727,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=8zV9U3sv,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-19T21:44:36.487+0000) > > but its not fair, how come you got placed higher? > > and there is this guy was s5 last season went 2-8 and got same s3 as me like WTF -.- MMR. > [{quoted}](name=Vhaegor,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=8zV9U3sv,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-17T09:11:42.095+0000) > > Placements done like this are literally making more people fall in bronze each season. maybe it seems crazy but ill explain. Say you take two gold 1 players after placements they are both dropped down to silver 1. Because for one of them to win the other has to lose if one goes to gold 5 the other will go to silver 2. Meaning riot effectively permanently turned a gold player silver. Unless there is some other factor going on this seems to be all that can happen. That's not how it works at all.
ninja150z (OCE)
: league is not about having a conversation if you play poorly expect to be abused
> [{quoted}](name=ninja150z,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=upu8EZWd,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2016-12-19T14:22:47.499+0000) > > league is not about having a conversation > > if you play poorly expect to be abused Hmm didn't expect that kind of attitude from a Bronze player. Don't abuse people, asshat.
: dont forget, yasuo's Q applies on hit affects, but im pretty sure u cant thornmail it
> [{quoted}](name=monkiinator135,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=qrrP5wEY,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-14T03:53:24.293+0000) > > dont forget, yasuo's Q applies on hit affects, but im pretty sure u cant thornmail it Thornmail affects Steel Tempest.
: > [{quoted}](name=Nightjar,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=kb73tVOB,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-07T11:47:21.376+0000) > > to put it in a more direct way, the rank reset gives players more incentive to play ranked since they want to climb to the rank they were before the reset or higher and it gives hope to those stuck in the bottom of bronze mmr. It also makes being boosted and staying boosted harder, meaning that rank you worked so hard to achieve means more. That would not be so bad except for the fact that your rank is 20% accurate because you are 1/5 of the players on your team. So 80% of games are determined by luck and make you completely irrelevant. so you are not really achieving anything except lucky streaks or playing 1000+ games to get 1-2 leagues higher which when the season reset happens you completely lose. For someone such as myself trying to play professionally, having the best stats in the world still does not allow me to climb quick enough before the seasons end to make it out of bronze/silver/gold. So the system LITERALLY forces me to stay in lower elo no matter how I personally play the game. The only way I would be able to climb is if I queue with other teammates who also know how to play the game properly, which would give me a solid 70%+/- winrate depending on their performance and allow me to climb out of lower elo. This is known by a few of the higher level players but most would not care to admit it because they want respect for their elo which is not really their own. So until riot fixes the process of determining a players lp/mmr gain/loss. No ones rank will ever mean anything.
> [{quoted}](name=whitePumah,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=kb73tVOB,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-12T14:13:28.349+0000) > > For someone such as myself trying to play professionally, having the best stats in the world still does not allow me to climb quick enough before the seasons end to make it out of bronze/silver/gold. So the system LITERALLY forces me to stay in lower elo no matter how I personally play the game. The only way I would be able to climb is if I queue with other teammates who also know how to play the game properly, which would give me a solid 70%+/- winrate depending on their performance and allow me to climb out of lower elo. With an attitude like this you will never be a professional League of Legends player.
Rioter Comments
Noki (OCE)
: The number game
Noki (OCE)
: The number game
: Yasuo or Zed?
> [{quoted}](name=LevvyLeviticus,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=uhflKGzn,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-09-11T05:17:23.592+0000) > > Yasuo: Pros & Cons. > Pros: > Despite having a full difficulty bar, has a very low skill cap Extremely high skill cap, moderate skill floor.
: 0 Days since my last game against a smurf.
: I'd like to see Riot do something like this in order to "improve" player behaviour
Wrathina (NA)
: I Cried While Playing League
I also enjoy a nice drink from time to time.
: OCE TOURNAMENT, LOOKING FOR PLATINUM AND ABOVE!
: Bronze Two jg main looking for a ranked team
Erøse (OCE)
: Silver 3 but going against low golds?
Noki (OCE)
: The number game
: > [{quoted}](name=Lord Kylar Alice,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=QAngx2FT,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-07-19T22:58:03.676+0000) > > Yes. Hi.
> [{quoted}](name=Roguestoney,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=QAngx2FT,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2016-07-19T23:06:18.797+0000) > > Hi. *Tips fedora.*
: seems like worth looking at but i doubt riot would unban the account as riot is riot. i don't think they have ever unbanned an account no matter if you used 100000$ and improved your behavior, checked into anger management or even do something so temporary and reflect on it. They dont intend to unban accounts only ban them and putting the time in you wouldnt be worth it (im sure its their mindset right now or they wont even read this post just ignore it). i dont think they will have empathy for you, not being negative, being realistic sorry...
> [{quoted}](name=Luffy1996,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=8Ex8A8r8,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-07-19T07:31:42.488+0000) > > seems like worth looking at but i doubt riot would unban the account as riot is riot. i don't think they have ever unbanned an account no matter if you used 100000$ and improved your behavior, checked into anger management or even do something so temporary and reflect on it. They dont intend to unban accounts only ban them and putting the time in you wouldnt be worth it (im sure its their mindset right now or they wont even read this post just ignore it). i dont think they will have empathy for you, not being negative, being realistic sorry... They once unbanned an extremely toxic player because he made an apology thread and he went back to trolling and being a prick after a few days. Not sure if he's been banned again yet.
Erøse (OCE)
: Why do high elo players hold onto summoner spells/ ultimate?
Usually it's to maximise value for later events. Sometimes it's just being bad.
: Mmr confirmed went down.
: lane call
Your game wasn't tight enough.
Noki (OCE)
: The number game
gr8m8er (OCE)
: How to raise elo
Understand and play the game well enough to not require a team.
: Well I have played karthus heaps, hence my observations from so many losses on him even when I win the lane,. Also in games where the whole team won the lining phase then team fights com and karthus has no affect on the outcome, he just dies far too easily. Him not having an escape is part of the problem. All champs should be able to 1v1, if they aren't viable 1v1 then they aren't viable in this game, excluding champs like soraka as he is best in a support role.
> [{quoted}](name=DreadedDrone,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=P7m78Lzc,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2016-05-22T02:28:24.152+0000) > > Well I have played karthus heaps, hence my observations from so many losses on him even when I win the lane,. Also in games where the whole team won the lining phase then team fights com and karthus has no affect on the outcome, he just dies far too easily. Him not having an escape is part of the problem. All champs should be able to 1v1, if they aren't viable 1v1 then they aren't viable in this game, excluding champs like soraka as he is best in a support role. Karthus excels in teamfights; he's a zone control mage. Control the area with your enormous AoE damage, Q range and Great Wall of China. You do that, even if you do die you should be able to kill or do mass damage to the other team since you've got another 4 or 5 seconds (7 if you don't ult) after death on top of what you should have done while alive. If your entire team wins the laning phase then you should steamroll the rest of the game easily. He's not useless, he's just not as good nor as easy as most other options.
Ingénue (OCE)
: Unfortunately it is still a no. Due to the ranks of people we have signed up for the trial as well as the ranks of people in the scrim teams, you will need to be at least diamond in the current season.
> [{quoted}](name=Princess Yaia,realm=OCE,application-id=mR0UmRrp,discussion-id=uxEZz90r,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-12T10:36:22.424+0000) > > Unfortunately it is still a no. Due to the ranks of people we have signed up for the trial as well as the ranks of people in the scrim teams, you will need to be at least diamond in the current season. thats really rude
Ingénue (OCE)
: More gold than me bb ;)
> [{quoted}](name=Princess Yaia,realm=OCE,application-id=mR0UmRrp,discussion-id=uxEZz90r,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-05-11T09:02:54.754+0000) > > More gold than me bb ;) is that a yes
Ingénue (OCE)
: Sapphire eSports recruitment
: Ranked soft reset?
Not the first time this has happened. It's likely just a visual bug as there isn't any sense in resetting now.
Gr1fter (OCE)
: Interesting survey. You should make Q6 selectable from the list of reportable offences as per the Riot report page. Also, what are 'other' genders? If you're wanting to include trans, change the question to 'What gender do you identify as?' Good luck.
> [{quoted}](name=Gr1fter,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=F7L7eotd,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-04-20T03:18:18.042+0000) > > Interesting survey. > > You should make Q6 selectable from the list of reportable offences as per the Riot report page. > > Also, what are 'other' genders? > > If you're wanting to include trans, change the question to 'What gender do you identify as?' > > Good luck. They're following pretty much every other survey/signup/whatever which has gender as a question. Question 2 should allow us to choose more than one response since the question isn't specific (What server do you primarily play on, etc.).
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