: > [{quoted}](name=BarryButcher,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=06nh1O02,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-11-14T02:13:11.819+0000) > > Nah, Riot should just give you every tier you qualify for. so Level 5 get all 3. I wish that was the case, I really would've liked the purple ward but I have level 5 honour. Thus it would mean I would have to purposely drop my honour level just for the ward.
Don't know why someone would downvote this post but that is what I intended ^ obviously wasn't clear enough
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Mofle (EUNE)
: Blue Essence??..
BE after every game is much preferred by the community and I think riot will notice that don't worry {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Me2 (OCE)
: Why is Riven so popular right now?
She is very appealing to new players especially when they see montages of her literally oneshotting a whole team. Especially with players like box box <3 who makes the champ 5 times more appealing
: But this is my point, He is actually extremely under IP for now, eventually he is going to get back up to his count, but he doesn't feel like it. Now lets extrapolate that. Everyone is expected to get the low roll, and feel extremely disappointed with what they just got after 6+ games worth of play. Earning IP for champs was never a system of "well shit, that level sucked, now i have to grind out another one" it was "damn i'm 50 short, one more game", and i honestly know which one i preferred.
Well said, I know the maths should take me back to normal in the long, long run but how long is what I'm scared of especially with levels gaining needing more XP. Especially with new champs coming out (zoe) grinding for that is taking longer with my ~~IP~~ BE rates. Appreciate all the work you have put into this Seras, especially with putting up with people like me and replying with meaningful and thoughtful responses {{champion:17}}
: Games are REALLY one sided.
I feel this but mainly in lower elo (like me), as there is usually someone in the game who gets fed in lane (smurf or something) and snowballs over all the other lanes.
Requinox (OCE)
: Completely Agree! I only earn small amounts of XP as shown below. https://imgur.com/a/4njbA As you can see, I only earned 140 XP after 20 mins. It's horrible.
A lot of my games end before 30 because in my elo it is either walk over or be walked over
: Hmm, even if you got *really* unlucky I wouldn't have thought you'd get that much below. I suppose the new system doesn't reward those who play *lots* of games a day as much as the old system did since the first win bonus is so big, maybe that's why? Do you remember what shards you got by chance?
For level 32 I got Warwick, Master Yi and Anivia. I think it was 90BE 90BE and 630BE, I worked out on my other post that is was around 1200BE for playing 10 games a day + First win bonus. I took my around 10 games to level up. For level 31 I got Master Yi and Karma. 90BE and 630BE (from memory). I just do not like that the amount of BE you get is based on luck when I play the same amount of hours as others yet they get more :/
: Yo I just levelled up to lvl 11 and I unlocked it
sick, thanks
: The Blue Essence Discussion
Don't get me wrong I _**love**_ the update and the new runes but the only problem I have is the 'Luck' factor with the shards. The leveling is a fun/great way for those who put serious hours into the game to show it off and keep on working towards milestones but the luck part of BE is what gets me down. Having to basically gamble for how much BE you get is a very weird system to go on. I have been what people have called 'unlucky' with my last two levels earning around 400BE off what the old system would have delivered. The fact that I put the _same_ amount of hours into the game as others yet have been getting less BE is very, very sad :'( Otherwise, thanks for posting this and clearing most things up {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Noki (OCE)
: The number game
: Free Rotation
Same problem here, I have an account where I try new champs and I'm stuck with the very same champs you are :/
SatNaav (OCE)
: BE tied to level ups is terrible.
I think riot would have realised by now that from the amount of complaints they have been getting will (hopefully) be giving BE after every game for more consistency. BE after every game is a much better system, I don't mind the leveling but it should just be for extra little rewards when you level up {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Lyric (OCE)
: Graves.exe
Give the man his cigar and he will leave you alone.
HUN0RKAA (EUNE)
: Nice work Riot you made a pay for win game. Fix this mistake till it's not too late...
Less of pay to win, just more of pay to play :P
Junimo (OCE)
: How am I supposed to get mastery 6+7?
I (and others) do not like this way of "getting lucky" with your rewards as you may get something that is worth very little BE or something higher. The consistency and the larger amount of BE you earned in the past was much better then and should be earned after every game :)
Nightjar (OCE)
: the issue is you're railroaded between your own desires and value. Even if it isn't bad mathematically, to the player it feels like coercion. You end up feeling cheated out of something you spent a day grinding for. Also as xp needed to level up increases, you begin to worry if you'll ever be able to get that next champion, even if you're only a few levels over 30, you still start to worry.
I would personally just like some more consistency with BE as you may like me "get unlucky" and get half what the old ways would have provided. The thought that you basically have to gamble for the amount of ~~IP~~ BE you get is the part of the new system that bugs me.
: > [{quoted}](name=MTNX,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=aIWuZ5XV,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-11-07T09:39:53.091+0000) > > From memory I received: > Master yi champion shard (below 100 BE) > Karma champion shard (I think 500 BE) So you got a total of 600 BE, right? Level 30 to 31 takes 2500 XP, but almost 600 is given by the first win, so we won't count that since it's free BE. So, 2000 XP for a game, which means approximately 10 games for a level up. So, again, approximately, 60 BE/game. In the old system you'd get somewhere between 50 to 80 IP/game. It's not that bad if you really think about it, also considering that if you're lucky you can unlock a champion you want by using a shard rather than buying it.
> [{quoted}](name=Reki Akashi,realm=EUW,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=aIWuZ5XV,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2017-11-08T08:44:02.104+0000) > > So you got a total of 600 BE, right? Level 30 to 31 takes 2500 XP, but almost 600 is given by the first win, so we won&#x27;t count that since it&#x27;s free BE. So, 2000 XP for a game, which means approximately 10 games for a level up. So, again, approximately, 60 BE/game. > > In the old system you&#x27;d get somewhere between 50 to 80 IP/game. > > It&#x27;s not that bad if you really think about it, also considering that if you&#x27;re lucky you can unlock a champion you want by using a shard rather than buying it. I understand what you are saying however after doing a bit of research i found that you were awarded 76-145 IP per game which is. It did also take me around 10 games to level up and with the old system i would have got an average of 110.5 BE per game. Which adds up to 1105 BE (double the amount i got) and _not_ including first win of the day which gives from memory around 150 IP/BE. I will admit I may have gotten unlucky and should have given this some more time however getting nearly half the old one is rather sad {{item:3070}} Thanks for sharing your thoughts :)
HeartVine (OCE)
: From what I understand of the new system, you have a better chance at getting higher "quality" (rather, cost) items from higher levels (you'll get different chances/loot from levels 1-10 than 30-40 or 70-80, for example) and certain milestones (such as every 10 or every 5 levels, and/or "significant" levels like 30 and 50), so it may just be the case that you got unlucky with your loot in this case. It would be a god idea to give the system a chance, rather than assuming it's all around terrible from 1 level when you'll probably be able to hit another 5-10 over the next week or two and be able to get a better idea of what the system is really like.
I completely understand with what you are saying, and i agree I should give it more time. However after hearing what my friends also got from their capsules at the same levels is demoralising. Not only this but most people prefer the system where you get it over time and not just all in one go after a while. I don't think this system is "terrible" I just think that the old one is better and preferred.
: So in other words, it's not even similar for those that only play 1 win a day, and you just don't have to pay for runes. And your basically forced to get random champions that you can easily get.
From what I have seen so far, it is either you get lucky and get your wanted champion in a shard or grind for a LONG time to unlock them or purchase RP from rito {{sticker:cass-cry}}
: Out of interest, what DID you get from the level up?
From memory I received: Master yi champion shard (below 100 BE) Karma champion shard (I think 500 BE)
Rioter Comments
: Level Beyond 30
This new way of getting BE is very, very slow. Please bring back the ways of earning some after games as not only will levels become harder to earn but getting two cheap champions in one capsule and only earning around 200 BE off a level is not very fun at all. It feels like we will have to start paying RP at higher levels for new champions with the lack of BE. I just beg that you bring back BE after every game. Please. RIP mastery levels and champions... {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}

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