Gehirn (OCE)
: I understand, you have indeed reported a lot of bots in the past and as far as I can see your reports are very accurate. Thanks for your understanding and your patience. We'll try to better by you and other players.
> [{quoted}](name=Gehirn,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=uYHxvtcE,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-10-19T06:42:54.473+0000) > > I understand, you have indeed reported a lot of bots in the past and as far as I can see your reports are very accurate. > > Thanks for your understanding and your patience. We'll try to better by you and other players. I will try and tone down my language in my reports from now on as well, I can get a little frustrated after playing 20 minutes with bots so my apologises for the language in my reports too.
Gehirn (OCE)
: Hey Plutooh, everyone's concerns have not gone unheard. We're taking a look at our current bot detection and seeing if anything new needs to be done. Bot detection is a constant arms race just like anticheat, where we create better detection and bot creators continue to create better ways to hide their bots. It also doesn't help that bots typically can play quite a lot of games before we're able to ban them as we rely on reports (yes your reports do count) and other patterns to catch them. As for the games you played today, I investigated them and found that there was only one bot. Please continue to report them and we'll continue to work on our detection methods.
> [{quoted}](name=Gehirn,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=uYHxvtcE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-10-19T04:12:28.437+0000) > > Hey Plutooh, everyone's concerns have not gone unheard. We're taking a look at our current bot detection and seeing if anything new needs to be done. Bot detection is a constant arms race just like anticheat, where we create better detection and bot creators continue to create better ways to hide their bots. > It also doesn't help that bots typically can play quite a lot of games before we're able to ban them as we rely on reports (yes your reports do count) and other patterns to catch them. > > As for the games you played today, I investigated them and found that there was only one bot. Please continue to report them and we'll continue to work on our detection methods. Gehirn I over exaggerated my post out of frustration, I should of said a lot of games I have played these last couple of months have had a huge amount of bots in them. I appreciate a reply and I do understand how hard it must be to keep up with the detecting them as coders bring out new ones. I used to be admin of an anti cheat website for another game so I do understand how frustrating it can be for both players and gaming companies but thank you for at least replying.
: Paying customers on a free game 😂😂🙃🤔
> [{quoted}](name=Roguestoney,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=uYHxvtcE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-10-19T02:44:35.012+0000) > > Paying customers on a free game 😂😂🙃🤔 Paying customers keep free to play games alive. ;)
  Rioter Comments
: I'm fairly certain that this could be largely fixed with a small amount of effort. I had a few aram's this morning, got a bunch of bots in them, roughly 9 in two games. Fine, so I reported them. While being bored at work this afternoon I jumped on op.gg to have a look at these bots. And it was really easy to see a pattern, the account levellers log a mass of bots on at times when there are not many other people on and spam a bunch of aram's. And there were quite a few games in these bot's history that were all bots. I'd imagine the idea being if the whole game is bots, there's no one to report them. It was also very easy to find new bots using op.gg, as they spam a few games in a row their "recently played with..." list is just full of other bots. In less than 10 minutes on the website I had pages open of over 20 bots all under level 30, snowball and cleanse summoners, only ever played arams, all with the same naming convention (an actual name with a few random letters added on) many showing purchasing of oracles extract. I could have carried on finding more without much trouble. So simply reviewing logs of large increases of aram queues at low traffic times would undoubtedly provide riot with a large list of bots. Once you have that list, review their match history and you'll find even more. It may be possible to identify a IP or mac address to ban with such a large sample size? But I don't know much about that side of things. I'm aware that the account levellers would eventually change tactics and new methods would have to be found to combat them. I will admit I'm a little bit confused as to why this hasn't already been done. If some nobody like me can identify a large group of bots, then what excuse does the player behaviour team have, with all their reporting tools at their disposal, for not doing so? If anyone is in a position to know the answer to that, I'd love to hear it.
> [{quoted}](name=AlexandSam,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=0H0Id783,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-10-18T07:42:50.819+0000) > > I'm fairly certain that this could be largely fixed with a small amount of effort. > I had a few aram's this morning, got a bunch of bots in them, roughly 9 in two games. > Fine, so I reported them. While being bored at work this afternoon I jumped on op.gg to have a look at these bots. > And it was really easy to see a pattern, the account levellers log a mass of bots on at times when there are not many other people on and spam a bunch of aram's. > And there were quite a few games in these bot's history that were all bots. I'd imagine the idea being if the whole game is bots, there's no one to report them. > > It was also very easy to find new bots using op.gg, as they spam a few games in a row their "recently played with..." list is just full of other bots. In less than 10 minutes on the website I had pages open of over 20 bots all under level 30, snowball and cleanse summoners, only ever played arams, all with the same naming convention (an actual name with a few random letters added on) many showing purchasing of oracles extract. > I could have carried on finding more without much trouble. > > So simply reviewing logs of large increases of aram queues at low traffic times would undoubtedly provide riot with a large list of bots. > Once you have that list, review their match history and you'll find even more. > It may be possible to identify a IP or mac address to ban with such a large sample size? But I don't know much about that side of things. > > I'm aware that the account levellers would eventually change tactics and new methods would have to be found to combat them. > I will admit I'm a little bit confused as to why this hasn't already been done. > If some nobody like me can identify a large group of bots, then what excuse does the player behaviour team have, with all their reporting tools at their disposal, for not doing so? > If anyone is in a position to know the answer to that, I'd love to hear it. Riot just have to do as 'MF Support' said below, sue the website/s who create these programs. I know of one game I used to play and the company sued a major cheat website, they got the site shut down and sent the creator bankrupt.
: i see them literally everywhere in ARAM between levels 5 and 29. Riot are honestly the most pathetic company when it comes to solving these problems, All they need to do is sjut down botoflegends website and sue them for damages/use of intellectual properly and demand the IP address of every player that has downloaded and used their client but no, Riots more interested in giving away $1m in a competition than spending that money on FIXING THEIR GAME.
> [{quoted}](name=MF Support,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=N3AMMBmA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-10-17T12:49:51.770+0000) > > i see them literally everywhere in ARAM between levels 5 and 29. > > Riot are honestly the most pathetic company when it comes to solving these problems, All they need to do is sjut down botoflegends website and sue them for damages/use of intellectual properly and demand the IP address of every player that has downloaded and used their client > > but no, Riots more interested in giving away $1m in a competition than spending that money on FIXING THEIR GAME. Couldn't agree more. They are one of the worst companies for letting their PAYING customers know whats going on, I mean how fucking hard is it to put a post up saying we are aware of the issue and are working on fixing it?? I'm 100% certain if these bots got into ranked games the problem would of been fixed years ago but it's ARAM so Riot don't give a shit.
: Low Priority Queue In Oceania
As was mentioned you are only punished by having to wait X amount of time before joining the queue. i.e. A friend had a power blackout a few times during a thunderstorm and came back and had a popup on screen telling him he had to wait 5 minutes before he could join the next game. Once those 5 minutes were up he could join a queue normally. I played this morning for an hour or so and never had issues joining a game and was usually in queue for no more than a minute or two. At the end of the day though when you are playing with others as a team each person relies on the other to play a part, if you're internet is that bad you really shouldn't be playing games like league, I think the system works quite well, only thing I would change is dodgers having to wait even longer.
Vier (OCE)
: What level are you and what is your win/loss ratio? You should eventually be a in a MMR with players only.
> [{quoted}](name=Vier,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=A4NIeiXM,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-10-12T23:28:32.380+0000) > > What level are you and what is your win/loss ratio? You should eventually be a in a MMR with players only. Player only games is where the bots are, OP means kids starting new accounts and running cheats on them to level them up and usually only used in ARAM.
: Still so many bots in aram
It's been going on as others have said for years, Riot don't know how to fix the problem which is why they haven't said anything to the PAYING customers end of the day I play for fun so I only play ARAM = No more spending money on the game until the issue is fixed.
Justaguy (OCE)
: Bots in ARAM and proliferation of such.
Riot have a)always been money hungry and b) they don't care because it's only ARAM and c) they have no idea how to fix the problem. ;)
Mr X (OCE)
: New laptop specs help
Yes it will run LoL and easily run Minecraft
: Aram leveling bots.
Riot don't care about bots, it's ARAM they won't fix the issue until there is bots in ranked. Riot need to sell the game to a company that knows what they are doing to fix the problem.
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: 70% Bots in ARAM
Riot can't work out how to stop the bots that's why it's been going on so long. They also don't care about fixing the issue because it's only ARAM. If it was ranked or any other mode they might look into it but ARAM they just stick their heads in the ground. Personally, I just leave the game if it's filled with bots, I'm not going to waste 20 minutes of my time playing with cheaters. I will just message support if i get penalised for leaving a game full of bots and Riot can compensate me for lost time. ;)
: "kiddo" nvm I'm dealing with someone from reddit, I can see why you're such a pussy now atleast
> [{quoted}](name=HOLEE IT KINDRED,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=hPY9XHJn,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2017-10-03T18:47:11.055+0000) > > "kiddo" nvm I'm dealing with someone from reddit, I can see why you're such a pussy now atleast Awww now now don't get mad little boy.
: BANNED. I hate the league community.
I believe Riot don't usually ban for a first offence, it's usually a chat ban or suspension for a first offence which makes me wonder how many other times you have been warned.
: the people who say "gg ez" is what makes it so hard for you to play this game. Whoa man. Try working, just one day in your life, and not using your parents money to do what you want with. Trust me the work force is a much MUCH more toxic environment
> [{quoted}](name=HOLEE IT KINDRED,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=hPY9XHJn,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2017-09-26T07:52:39.665+0000) > > the people who say "gg ez" is what makes it so hard for you to play this game. Whoa man. Try working, just one day in your life, and not using your parents money to do what you want with. Trust me the work force is a much MUCH more toxic environment Considering I'm likely old enough to be your father and likely have more money than your whole family combined I say you might be the one who needs to get out in the sunshine a little more kiddo. I also never said those who say 'gg ez' make it hard to play the game, I said they were scrubs. So next time, don't be so quick to judge people you don't know. ;)
jaggapuss (OCE)
: common mate 45mins getting flamed for no reason then a ban when they surrender just before were going to win OK i swore a lot i was angry i haven't been banned in 7 years the people coming into the game are ruining it how are u supposed to cheer up
> [{quoted}](name=jaggapuss,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=NJ2XZLKw,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-09-09T22:53:11.202+0000) > > i haven't been banned in 7 years From what I understand you don't get a perm ban the first time, you get suspended or chat restricted first. Perm bans I would of thought would be for multi offences so.....
addi3zx (OCE)
: BOTS in league
I wouldn't waste your time asking on the forums, Riot don't seem to like responding about the bot problem to their PAYING players who keep this game alive. My guess is a) They have no idea how to fix the problem. and/or b) It mainly happens in ARAM and not ranked so they don't really care. Either way I'm just glad I don't need to spend anymore real money on this game, between the bots, leavers, AFK'ers and trash talking 'gg ez' scrubs it's not worth investing money in anymore.
Virtual (OCE)
: 14 day suspension
What Riot need to do is allow people to turn chat off completely so we don't have to listen to whiney people complain all game. I don't give a shit that it's a team game and communication helps, if it means not having to listen to people bitch and complain then i'd turn chat off all together.
Mega9102 (OCE)
: What is wrong with Riot, Im level 5 honor
Always someone who will complain about getting free things.......
El Vuur (OCE)
: BOTs ARE BACK IN FASHION AGAIN in ARAM Riot
What pisses me off even more is Riot won't even reply to threads like these letting the players know that they are even aware of the issue and are doing something to fix it. I say compensation for time lost, I wouldn't care if it was one game in one hundred that had a bot but it is every fucking game, so Riot FIX YOUR SHIT!!!!!!!!!
El Vuur (OCE)
: BOTs ARE BACK IN FASHION AGAIN in ARAM Riot
Riot won't do anything, to be honest I have a feeling they have no idea how to even fix the problem it's been going on for years and don't even care as long as people are silly enough to keep spending money.
Rioter Comments
PYA52 (OCE)
: Account banned
Unlikely you would of got perm banned for one game of swearing. Shit I have been swearing my ass off at feeders and AFK pricks for years and I'm still here. Oh and if people don't like swearing that's what the curse filter is for...turn it on.
Brooth (OCE)
: Unban Old Account
You would need to submit a ticket, forums won't get you anywhere.
Silvary (OCE)
: ARURF SUCKS BECAUSE OF RANDOM SELECTION
Easy fix would have been to allow banning but Riot aren't the smartest tools in the shed....
Justaguy (OCE)
: Habit in Oceania of saying "GG ez"
From what I have heard you can report players for saying 'Ez' although reporting players doesn't seem to do anything anyway. The best thing Riot can do is when someone types ez it changes it to something more positive like some other games do. People who say 'gg ez' are either little kiddies or insecure adults, so I just laugh and feel sorry for their sad lives. ;)
Fitzky (OCE)
: http://imgur.com/IW1hwIw
> [{quoted}](name=Fitzky,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=NXKe1ifz,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-08-13T08:56:32.040+0000) > > http://imgur.com/IW1hwIw Sums it up in one. If people don't like swearing turn the curse filter on. Riot need to start banning the fucking AFK pricks and feeders and the dog fucks that say 'Ez' after every game.
Rioter Comments
: 3rd 2 week suspension, question for riot
Wait you got suspended....3 times...and here I thought Riot were lazy fuckers and never read reports. Wish they would do something about AFK players and start banning them.
Jason (OCE)
: Australia is getting a League of Legends Reality Show!
That's all we need, another reality show.....
psbSMurf (OCE)
: Main account hacked and transferred to Turkey server - Help anyone?
Moral of the story, don't share accounts and don't visit cheat sites.
: League of legends has peaked but there is still some growth. There are plenty of new players joining league though, just not as many as when it was the rage of popularity.
> [{quoted}](name=Requiemsfire,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=nMIYMiRc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-08-29T08:52:22.100+0000) > > League of legends has peaked but there is still some growth. There are plenty of new players joining league though, just not as many as when it was the rage of popularity. The point is though, Riot have lost control of their game. It used to belong to Riot, it now belongs to the script kiddies who run the bots.
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Plutooh (OCE)
: Bots
So after seeing more and more bots in ARAM and hearing the rumours now I know why there are so many bots. Riot uses them to fill games which is why they don't get banned, at least I know now.
: Instead of penalizing the ones for leaving, why not keep the players/champions and re-open the queue for another to come in? If someone dodges, you're going to have to wait anyway, why not let the queue wait for a solo queue'r and slide them right on in? This way people will get to play their desired random pick in ARAM for that game, and not waste a re-roll or skin boost because someone dodged.
> [{quoted}](name=Sloth Almighty,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=wQ2mHil7,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-07-27T23:47:07.257+0000) > > Instead of penalizing the ones for leaving, why not keep the players/champions and re-open the queue for another to come in? > If someone dodges, you're going to have to wait anyway, why not let the queue wait for a solo queue'r and slide them right on in? > > This way people will get to play their desired random pick in ARAM for that game, and not waste a re-roll or skin boost because someone dodged. Not a bad idea. +1
Im a CAT (OCE)
: Wow, pls when I dodge an aram game and still get the champion from my last dodge. I am ready to just call it quits and go back to overwatch. Honestly, other players have the right to dodge in Aram of all modes too. It isnt great fun to get flame when you are a warwick and just get kited to death pre 6 and post 6. #norerolllyfe :(
> [{quoted}](name=Im a CAT,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=wQ2mHil7,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-07-25T00:56:46.518+0000) > > Wow, pls when I dodge an aram game and still get the champion from my last dodge. > I am ready to just call it quits and go back to overwatch. > > Honestly, other players have the right to dodge in Aram of all modes too. > It isnt great fun to get flame when you are a warwick and just get kited to death pre 6 and post 6. > #norerolllyfe :( Simple solution, don't play ARAM if you don't like getting a random champ, go play one of the other modes where you can choose a champ.
Gravelord (OCE)
: The problem I have with ARAM is that a lot of my friends have a specific ARAM account where they have all the great ARAM champs. They will just keep getting the same champs to absolutely Shrek in this game mode. So if I was playing on ARAM and pulled out a Draven, I'd hell want to bail from that queue (I am hella floppy shit with Draven). Why penalise me for me knowing I will be playing a bad game, Letting my mates down, I will not be learning because I have skill shots coming at me every 0.02 seconds and most important of all I will not be enjoying the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Gravelord,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=wQ2mHil7,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-07-16T23:24:25.838+0000) > > So if I was playing on ARAM and pulled out a Draven, I'd hell want to bail from that queue (I am hella floppy shit with Draven). Why penalise me for me knowing I will be playing a bad game. One of the reasons to play ARAM, learn how to play Draven or other champs in a less competitive environment. Some of us play LoL for fun so dodgers or players who go AFK because they didn't get the champ they wanted are wasting everyone else's 15-20 minutes.
: is graves cancer ?
No and is using the 'C' word really necessary, maybe when you or a family member are affected by it you might think again.
Rioter Comments
: I've been reporting ggez duds since I saw a thread with a rioter agreeing that it was reportable. Just gives me a reason to report people that I don't like. You'll never know the mentality behind them unless your one yourself though. Some people are egotistical, some are sadistical and seeing rage after one of those comments makes them feel absolutely fan****ingtastic. It's just some random pop culture thing now like how selfie was added to the dictionary. They're not slow, I don't even think those pokemongo players who stop their car in the middle of the road or come into my backyard are slow. And yea you do win. you think therefore you are :P have fun
> [{quoted}](name=TheOneUser,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=vEEi3Rm2,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-07-10T17:53:08.785+0000) > > I've been reporting ggez duds since I saw a thread with a rioter agreeing that it was reportable. Just gives me a reason to report people that I don't like. You'll never know the mentality behind them unless your one yourself though. Some people are egotistical, some are sadistical and seeing rage after one of those comments makes them feel absolutely fan****ingtastic. It's just some random pop culture thing now like how selfie was added to the dictionary. They're not slow, I don't even think those pokemongo players who stop their car in the middle of the road or come into my backyard are slow. And yea you do win. you think therefore you are :P have fun I must admit maybe it does have something to do with school holidays. Played a game just now, we had one AFK'er the whole game yet the other team felt the urge to say 'ez' after the match was over. At least now I know it's reportable I guess I will stop getting baited and abusing them and just report them instead.
: Ban Permanetly
Moral of the story, don't share you're account with anyone.
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Plutooh (OCE)
: Bots
I don't really play LoL competitively more for fun so I play ARAM a lot. I'm ranked 30 and usually always see them in ARAM, at least as Seras said they are banning in waves, just gets frustrating when you have them on you're team and feel sorry for your opponents when they are on their team and you win so easily.
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: Is there a filter for names?
Agreed, anyone with the term 'Rapist' or anything similar needs to be asked to change their name at their expense. If they refuse they are banned until they change it.
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