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00shots00 (OCE)
: ohhhhh i know the type of person you are now. [REMOVED] i've been around the world. i've also never had parents until the age of 15. My uncle and aunty (the smartest people i know) have taught me a whole lot about life and not being walked all over. [REMOVED] [REMOVED] with every patch people are turning to trolling because why be toxic anymore when you can get perma banned for that, but running it down mid just gives you a bad mmr for 2 games. I said im trolling in my games now just so i can enjoy the game so if you dont like that please write a formal written complaint to someone that gives a shit.
Just curious, how old are you? you struck me as a person with the maturity and temperament of a troubled teen that haven't sorted himself out yet. I understand this game can be frustrating at time. But in the end, it just a game isn't it? why are you getting so messed up over it? [REMOVED]
Bookbash (OCE)
: That's right, they "you need to put effort into the begining of it". Absolutely, and they do this quicker by understanding war. Anyone with any IQ can do it. He was talking about quicker advancement in league, not hitting a wall. TLDR: ANYONE in Bronze can get to low Diamond. It's just a case of HOW you do it.
> [{quoted}](name=Bookbash,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=N3s18wor,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-01T07:01:03.464+0000) > > That's right, they "you need to put effort into the begining of it". Absolutely, and they do this quicker by understanding war. Anyone with any IQ can do it. He was talking about quicker advancement in league, not hitting a wall. > > TLDR: ANYONE in Bronze can get to low Diamond. It's just a case of HOW you do it. No, not any with any degree of IQ can. I know that people with IQ 84 under have troubles memorising or picking up basic partern. Not everyone care about this game the same way you do. For those people losing games in league is nothing to care for. You cant expect people to learn all that.
Bookbash (OCE)
: So true. Understand war itself before trying to one trick a champion in league.
> [{quoted}](name=Bookbash,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=N3s18wor,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-01T06:40:02.953+0000) > > So true. Understand war itself before trying to one trick a champion in league. To understand something at an advance level, you need to put effort into the begining of it. An amateur will think the basic is too easy, so he will skip the process. It not about people 1 trick or stuff like that. Truth of the matter is much simpler than you think. Just like IQ, your brain has a max capacity it can reach. Yet cant exceed. Currently you can try to reach that thresh hold, but once you hit that limit, you're still at the bottom of the barrel compare to those that have a higher capacity. You are telling people they can be way better if they learn all the stuff. But nope, brain dont just absore all informations just because you want it to. So the learning differences divide people in bronze to challenger.
: I've played professional and competitive gaming since 1999. League of Legends suck for 2 reasons 1: the corporations (Riot developers and tencent financiers) behind the game are sub optimal (bad) 2: its a custom scenario third generation iteration from an old blizzard rts, its like people thinking they know how to play chess because they once saw someone else play a game of checkers
> [{quoted}](name=Iloveyoubabygirl,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=N3s18wor,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-04-01T06:05:06.566+0000) > > I've played professional and competitive gaming since 1999. League of Legends suck for 2 reasons > > 1: the corporations (Riot developers and tencent financiers) behind the game are sub optimal (bad) > > 2: its a custom scenario third generation iteration from an old blizzard rts, its like people thinking they know how to play chess because they once saw someone else play a game of checkers You are not making any sense. What is the point you are making about the game? your past history of others games? what..?
: ***
The fact that you talks so much about a role you dont play to climb, is what make your "advice" 3rd rate.
: > [{quoted}](name=Rectum,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=7rq7feWW,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-03-28T06:42:38.792+0000) > > Dude, your dps graph is among the lowest next to support. Your problem is, you dont know how to play the game at a decent level yet. > When your team telling you to ganks, that mean they are being preasured and you're not doing nothing but jgl creep. > > Set up counter ganks, wards, pings, type in the enemy jgler gank time. Do something to help your laner!! EVEN giving him a +1HP pots advantage over his lane oppent is a big deal. Dont just afk untill you're lv 6 or FARM AND ONLY GANKS WHEN THERE IS NO CREEP. That is the lowest form of jgling, when i was ranking up from bronze, that was most of my bronze jglers ever does. LV 4 route, recall and dont do shit, not even dropping a ward or track the other jgl. > > With a shitty jgler on your team, laning phase will feel like a 1v2. I dont think its suitable to say that he is bad junglet because of low dps. After doing all the tasks required as a jungler, my dps is barely above support. Also, as op says junglers do have to keep clearing camps and it is hard to set up a gank ignoring camps to be cleared. It is really a bad thing for our jungler to be outleveled vs opponent jungler.
When you are not a good player and cant carry the team. Put your times into helping others grow their advantage; So you, the average player of the team can get carry. Playing dps jgler and have next to last dps scores. You are not being effective. Your job on dps is to hunt weak lanes or jgler and constantly win the 1v1 to keep them down. Tracking them and make their life hard. Not AFK farm and hope all goes well so you can "Level" toward end game where your scalling might be enough to carry "Low elo, yes. High elo. No". There is a big different in leveling to keep up, and forsake a gankable lane, or counter ganks; Just so you can farm. Your Opp.gg suggest that you dont even main jgl. You are missing a lots of finner details to be effective at that role.
: Agreed with Seras here. It is a very personal thing. When I say 'support' as the hardest role, I'm speaking as objectively as I can taking into account all the things that role can/cant do, compared with other roles, and the responsibility they have. My personal roles from easiest to hardest are: **Mid** - I play the 'mage' role is most games me and my friends play. So aiming and slinging spells feels more natural to me, so I'm attracted to champs that have that play style. I like clean clear actions, and a spell is just that. You see a concise purple blob leave Vel'koz fly across the map, and hit your face. Theres no cheeky on-hit %HP crit life-steal effects that come into the equation, what you see is what you get. **Support** - Support and mid share a lot of things _(theres a reason tons of mid champs get taken support, and some supports get taken mid)_, not least of these reasons is their reliance on clean direct skill shots and 'controlling' play styles. Many supports are very magelike. Not to mention bot lane is often the destination of my mid-lane roams, so I spend a lot of time in this lane even when Im a mid laner _(familiarity and all that)_. **Jungle** - I'm out of my comfort zone now, I know enough about the role to function as a decent jungler, but I'm far from having thought out jungle-clear paths and solid bank times, especially when things stop going to plan. **Top** - I despise this lane, I don't understand the matchups well, and things function in top very different to mid lane. Mid lane is like throwing stones at each other in the street, you know you're stronger than the other guy when your stones make bigger bruises than his stones. Top lane is like two beefy dudes bumping chests in a bar, you don't know who's stronger until one of you is on the ground. And I just cant seem to work out that dynamic. Not to mention you have the whole team screaming at you to 'stop Nasus farming' and I still don't know how, everything I throw at him he heals back, and it's me that ends up losing farm while wasting time hammering my fists aimlessly against him. **ADC** - Yes after this whole post, ADC is the hardest position for me _(personally)_ to play. I dunno what is it, but right-clicking is hard for me. Whenever I right click someone, they right click me back, and their right click does more damage than mine. Its not like a skillshot that I can aim and dodge, I feel distanced from my damage, and that means I can't control it well. Not to mention part of it is based on luck _(crit chance)_ and that adds uncertainty to the mix, which again is different to the mid lane mentality. I like the 'controller' play style, I like to have clear precise actions that I can measure and predict the outcome of, which is why I'm best at mid and support. I don't like the top/ADC playstyle where due to all the on-hit effects, crit strikes and AA buffers, _(often in really close proximity)_, you dont really have a clear precise view of where and how their _(or your)_ damage is coming from. You just seem to open up your abilities and hope that your DPS is better than theirs. ________________________ But it's also highly dependant on what champs you play as well, e.g. Its quite possible that I find ADC so hard is because the only ADC i have ever put proper effort into playing is Kalista. Im sure that if I played Draven or Miss Fortune, id have an easier time. Likewise if you're gunna play Renekton or Illaoi, top is probably a lot easier than if you play Camille or Jayce.
Support is no where near the hardest role. They might have some of the mechanically demand champions, like thresh, rakkan and the like. But that beside the point. Support need their team inorder to do anything, that mean their team mate come with them to ward, such and such. The rest of the laning phase is standard 2v2 and ganks, same with any others lane. But bott lane have 2 people warding. Engage and peel, any tanks can do that, soo what is so difficult about support compare to other lane? Every roles has their struggles, to generalise a role is harder than the other is not taking others aspect of the game into question. So inconclusion, there is no hardest role. Only hardest role for **that** **individual**.
: LOW ELO CARRY JUNGLES
You need to understand the game to carry. Even If you pick the best champ, but have no idea how to play the champ or the role you will never climb.
: hey can you stop flaming junglers for not ganking
Dude, your dps graph is among the lowest next to support. Your problem is, you dont know how to play the game at a decent level yet. When your team telling you to ganks, that mean they are being preasured and you're not doing nothing but jgl creep. Set up counter ganks, wards, pings, type in the enemy jgler gank time. Do something to help your laner!! EVEN giving him a +1HP pots advantage over his lane oppent is a big deal. Dont just afk untill you're lv 6 or FARM AND ONLY GANKS WHEN THERE IS NO CREEP. That is the lowest form of jgling, when i was ranking up from bronze, that was most of my bronze jglers ever does. LV 4 route, recall and dont do shit, not even dropping a ward or track the other jgl. With a shitty jgler on your team, laning phase will feel like a 1v2.
: > [{quoted}](name=Rectum,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=IcvPHymU,comment-id=00010001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-25T05:28:41.019+0000) > > To keep this simple, when you climb to a higher rank. What would this do to improve your life? What recognition will you get in a game that you are not gonna be making money or getting social standing benefit? > > If this game isnt fun, play something else. Seem to me you are too emotionally invested over nothing at all. Well it is all about challenge and testing your limit. If you get happy for what you doing and feel rewarded for yourself achieving something , why would you ask for money or recognition from others ? Yeah it is no fun, especially when i met those people in ranked , who dont care and dont take the game serious. It is sad man. Why not play norm or arm. I dont mind you building full ad as blitz jg. Those games are for fun.
You do know the toll of your labour is not giving you anything society deem useful right? Playing too much and being emotionally upset over results in a game that has no bearing to a sucessful life is not wise. This is my guess; But are you still in school or what? you seem like you dont have much responsibility placed on you yet. You placed your worry over nothing at all "It a game! Not a career".
: > [{quoted}](name=Rectum,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=IcvPHymU,comment-id=000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-25T04:27:09.535+0000) > > I can change his mind. But am gonna get banned by you. How fo you i banned more than 300 players? >95% adc players.
To keep this simple, when you climb to a higher rank. What would this do to improve your life? What recognition will you get in a game that you are not gonna be making money or getting social standing benefit? If this game isnt fun, play something else. Seem to me you are too emotionally invested over nothing at all.
: ? I was never trying to imply that you were whinging about anything. All I said really was that once you plateau you're going to have harder time climbing, because it isn't only a matter of ranking up to your relative skill, it require significant improvement as well, and that op.gg (etc) mmr isn't accurate and shouldn't be taken as an absolute. I never said anything negative, or at least never intended to so sorry if you took it that way. I was *trying* to offer context. To prompt you to consider more angles. Some games are unwinnable yes, sometimes the enemy team is just better than yours, however they do it, but ultimately *you* are the constant in your games. There's not point lamenting what you can't change or improve, better to focus on what you can. Of course if you have no faith in the ranked system's accuracy I doubt some random on boards is going to change your mind about that, it just wasn't what I interpreted your original post to be about.
I can change his mind. But am gonna get banned by you.
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jtjeaster (OCE)
: Hi glad to hear your interest and can understand some players may be thinking the same thing. I am unfortunately wanting to make a new identity for myself so explaining my past helps people identify who I am. If you want to know more about me I can explain this more personally on league but am not sharing it to the public.
You do know people that talks to you can also leak it right? What is the point of concealing something you will share to others.
jtjeaster (OCE)
: Will get any player OCS if they read this!
So, post some examples of your past work? so far it all blind faith on what you are saying is the truth.
: > What were you before? bronze 5 -100LP? Yes, I actually was last season. I can't find the screenshot of when I was -100 LP, but here is one from -76 LP: https://imgur.com/a/saMwv#fqZOUpZ
Last season. So basically your mmr reset down to neutral, and now your on your way back to last season's -76LP.
: People "troll" without getting paid. Just because you don't understand the game in the slightest, doesn't mean that everything you disagree with is trolling.
Lol, dude. What make you think you understand the game so well? Your theorycraft is at a very low level. I wonder if you have ever watch Pro play, or vlog of professional coaches of big team doing analysis. You sound like a dude that dont take critic well and would go on defend mode and be stubborn till the bitter end. Also can you afford to pay them? you dont sound like a dude any 1 want to hire.
serenart (OCE)
: Hey I've joined this team and learned so much. I no longer feed, I've learned to play safe and when the whole team follow the shot caller we win, win, win. I don't consider myself a slave, in fact I got free quality training and free wins. Sure it might be boring at times playing the same champ but I get to climb the ranks because we are winning with a Captain of a team that really knows what to do to win.
The kind of learning you are doing is at a very low class. You wouldnt know this because you are still inexprience, and think too highly of the leason. League professional scene, there are already establish META that defind the trend of the game according to current patch. These weir shits that you are being told to do is suboptimal "if not down right terrible". It seem like an amateur with no exprience of the professional scene or high rank match, think too highly of their meager skills. 'frog in a well' shallow knowledge and big ego. Putting together this ignorant composition. Have you ever done body building and take tips from a veteran nub and doing all the wrong postures? This is what this nub Transcender is doing to you. It will only wreck you down the road; And If you are too blind to see it. due to whatever reason, then ok. Go ahead and learn bad habit. Pls watch LCK matches with commentary. You will have a small grasp of league played at the highest LV. Maybe then you can see these weir zil top, morg mid, ammu jgl, kayle sup, twitch adc. WTF IS THAT, weakness every where. This team can only rely on the different in skills of the players to win, what a terrible draft.

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