: Again, your phrasing of "Asian". Why are you so keen on berating a whole race and not the individual? You've both exchanged insults back and forth with each other? And it just happen, that you're doing all of the above while on your last leg. who's to say, the other guy is not going to meet the same fate? Then he will either get over it, or come here to say his piece. Seriously, think about it. You just dont know how to effectively argues your points. You'll have to layout and details down what to says; To have the effect that you want, without going against the status Quo. In other words, if you are trying not to get ban, you'll probly have a high chance of evading the ban. When i was actively playing league, i flamed almost every games. But i choose my words, and tip toe arround the system. I've settled my anger with other players using insults; But i've kept it within the allotted limit. But on this forum, i couldnt careless. I've pretty much speaks whatever, and if they want to delete, ban or warn me, so be it. And they have. The point is, if you're trying to evade the worst outcome with careful thinking, the chance that you'll succeed is pretty good. You can take this as a leason; Of character development mile stone in your life. Or, stay as you are. You'll be the judge of where that'll lead, years from now. And believe me, group indentity resentment lead to dark places. There are many empirical data to back up my claim.
fair call buddy i get what youre saying and agree with it on the whole and in a real life situation yes but i cant really justify applying it to a damn videogame that im supposed to be enjoying so i guess i have to take option number two and move on which is tough since as i said ive been here since preseason 1 but yeah i guess the community has simply outgrown me or i it maybe im wrong and some good eggs like you will keep the game alive but personally ive had enough!
: Again, your phrasing of "Asian". Why are you so keen on berating a whole race and not the individual? You've both exchanged insults back and forth with each other? And it just happen, that you're doing all of the above while on your last leg. who's to say, the other guy is not going to meet the same fate? Then he will either get over it, or come here to say his piece. Seriously, think about it. You just dont know how to effectively argues your points. You'll have to layout and details down what to says; To have the effect that you want, without going against the status Quo. In other words, if you are trying not to get ban, you'll probly have a high chance of evading the ban. When i was actively playing league, i flamed almost every games. But i choose my words, and tip toe arround the system. I've settled my anger with other players using insults; But i've kept it within the allotted limit. But on this forum, i couldnt careless. I've pretty much speaks whatever, and if they want to delete, ban or warn me, so be it. And they have. The point is, if you're trying to evade the worst outcome with careful thinking, the chance that you'll succeed is pretty good. You can take this as a leason; Of character development mile stone in your life. Or, stay as you are. You'll be the judge of where that'll lead, years from now. And believe me, group indentity resentment lead to dark places. There are many empirical data to back up my claim.
you seem like a nice guy and i understand what you are saying but tbh the system is fundamentally flawed i shouldnt have to cowtow to people for the privelege of playing this game and it WILL and already has been a HUGE contributor to the MASSIVE decline in this servers population and quality of games i have been here since the beginning since before we even had a server since before there even was divisions i have been top 50 challenger on this server i have sat in diamond and seen the effects these players have had and now as a decidedly gold/low platinum player see it there and WORSE than ever the server is absolutely riddled with flaming non english speaking trolling players who have carte blanche to abuse this terrible system riot has implemented on this server. i appreciate you being so level headed and at least trying to be civil rather than being inflammatory from the get to but im of the opinion that we shouldnt HAVE to bow down to these leeches who show no respect for the server or any person who doesnt share their asian heritage :) just so we are clear i have several close asian friends whom i deeply respect and have no problems with asian people at all on the whole this is not the point and honestly i think people are just honing in REALLY hard on the fact that somebody said "asians" rather than seeing the whole picture and understanding how and why that came about. can you honestly look me in the eye and say you havent experienced what i am talking about on this server? honestly?
: Hey, Zil acts it out. You words it out. Do you understand you and Zil are a cut from the same cloth? Zil take advantage of the system. You, played right into his hand. There was sooooo many things you can do and says to Zil that would quell your anger and not get yourself banned. Such as typing in all chat about Zil's terrible attitude, and how a player like him should be reported and banned; Give other players the details of zil's toxic behaviors. But nope, you took the wrong route little boy. Instead of targeting one guy, you blur out your rage at the whole crowd. That is one battle the like of you'll never win.
no he also "words" it out or are you ignoring the part of my post where i said he spam pinged and flamed me? albeit in their ugly broken english as is tradition but thats all well and good because somebody reacted no we arent the same because i didnt troll, flame and intentionally feed because i died. its not me "playing into his hand" its riot oce :) when this server is dead and all you have are non english speaking flaming asians playing because literally ANY level headed individual can see how ridiculous this whole system is and they have all moved on well see how things are! keep your community cya later!
: >[**WHY WAS I PUNISHED WHEN THE OTHER PERSON WAS WORSE OR STARTED IT!**](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/207489286-Instant-Feedback-System-FAQ-#h1q7) >[Simply speaking, retaliation is not an acceptable or justifiable behavior. An argument between two players can easily create a negative experience for the rest of the players in the game with you. Regardless of the other player’s actions, this does not justify your own behavior. You alone are responsible for your actions within the game.](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/207489286-Instant-Feedback-System-FAQ-#h1q7) It may not be what you want to hear, but it's the standards the wider community and Riot has set. Noone wants an inter in their game, but they also don't want someone hurling negativity around *constantly*. Even if you don't think your behaviour was that bad, you have to a the very least accept that by the standards of the community you are participating in it is not ok. You wouldn't have received a permanent suspension for a first offense unless cheating or some such was involved, that's not how the system works, so you've had at least one prior punishment, and more than likely a 14 day ban at some point. In the reform card for that 14 day punishment you would have been informed that any further violations of community guidelines would result in a permanent suspension of your account. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask. If you wish to appeal your punishment, submit a ticket to support as HeartVine suggested. If you've received that 14 day punishment, then I can pretty much guarantee you won't get your account back. If not, you ***might*** (HUGE emphasis on that might) have a case for a reduction, but it's not a strong one.
tbh at this point im not fussed look at the blatant hypocrisy, racism and bias in this thread you can have your "community" ive been here longer than any of you and i remember when the game wasnt run by quiet racists and sjws time to move on keep the fuckin account l0l. fact of the matter is i presented all the evidence that this player INTENTIONALLY ruined a game over dying level 1 over a summoner spell choice and all ANY of you could point to is me retaliating in chat :) shove it tbh cya!
: Then expand your arguement of why "these asian are racist"? If you cant articulate your statement, it'll cause confusion and misunderstanding. He was quick to jump the gun reading your wording. But lets hear you out. So please explain the reason behind that phrase.
my wording doesnt need to be expanded on its quite blunt its the TRUTH you can dance around it all you want. a HUGE majority of the asian playerbase on this server are HIGHLY racist and toxic towards anybody who isnt :) these are the facts you know it, i know it, that racist meathead up there knows it and they get away with it and get a free pass simply because without them this server would have a grand total of about 12 players.
: Then expand your arguement of why "these asian are racist"? If you cant articulate your statement, it'll cause confusion and misunderstanding. He was quick to jump the gun reading your wording. But lets hear you out. So please explain the reason behind that phrase.
i need to expand on the widely known fact that there is a LARGE population of non english speaking asians on this server that flame and troll the hell out of anybody who isnt in their little group? for true?
: dont give riot or tencent a cent.
yer wont be lol. the game can die as it should.
Shovel (OCE)
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all anybody has said ANYTHING about is me saying "THESE ASIANS ARE RACIST" LOL. nothing in regards to the actual game or the WHY of it all despite ALL evidence and context ive provided. how sad
HeartVine (OCE)
: You would have received a punishment for sure based on the logs provided. While there is one racist comment, that's typically not enough to cause a full escalation, and certainly not to a perma-ban. Whether that punishment should be a perma-ban would depend whether you have previously received a 14-day ban (at the very least, 25 game chat restriction). As for appealing the punishment, you will need to submit a ticket to [Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) (choose the option "I have a question about a suspension or restriction on my account") and deal with the process with them (I feel like I should warn you to not expect them to change anything, considering). I think it's important to note at this point that when I was constructing this post your previous thread regarding this topic was still showing for me and I had time to take a look at it. Don't know why it "persisted" so long for me, however. > I was told by another player on these boards that the rioter gehirn might be able to take a look at my case. I'm going to be very clear here, the Rioter's themselves wont look at this case. They will *only* deal with cases that legitimately look like false positives (which are *extremely* rare) and that Support don't handle properly, and, quite frankly, it's clear that this should have resulted in *some* punishment (as I said before, which punishment may be up for debate). I don't know who's gone and told you that you should request one of the Rioter's personally look it over (couldn't find any such comment directed at you based on your posting history), but it seems they obviously don't know what they're talking about in this case.
Ok well i understand that the way i behaved was wrong ALSO but is context just completely ignored? that seems really unfair like i said i was recieving honor almost every. single. game up until this point even reaching checkpoints to regain my honor. This player had a tantrum and just trolled and intentionally fed and thats ok? but i react and i get permanently banned? yes i took the bait but thats just it? somebody does something and i react badly ONE TIME after trying my best to reform and thats just it? Can you please point out the racist part of my chat log for me no you cant because there was no racism (if you come back and try to tell me saying "these asians" is RACISM i will laugh in your face) as far as bans being over turned and you for whatever reason trying to act smug and say that this other person doesnt know what they are talking about well they do because the rioter did. it was a similar case and the person WAS unbanned. whether i will be or not is not for you to say. you also dont work for riot so you wouldnt know anything and i see spend all your time on these boards basically laughing at people for being banned you seem like a real class act.
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