: > [{quoted}](name=Suppeh,realm=OCE,application-id=hIjvqaz6,discussion-id=AWBwBQtf,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-02-14T09:01:09.823+0000) > > who were the judges lol, these are all terrible, lack of effort is apparent in the first two cosplays they are dressed half casually in shorts and skirts. Clearly just mad because you don't have what it takes.
OK white knights, explain to me why i would dress up as anything to impress you rofl. It is not rude to say i think its bad cosplay its my opinion, and i am pretty sure some others would think the same. The first 2 cosplays just really didn't stand out to me, i mean sure its supposed to be casual but yeah as zen bot said earlier its pretty meh. So don't blindly assume I am salty because I didn't get chosen (i didn't even enter) because I just expected better effort.
Maraudaur (OCE)
: Ocean Week cosplay and art contest winners
who were the judges lol, these are all terrible, lack of effort is apparent in the first two cosplays they are dressed half casually in shorts and skirts.
ZDFraser (OCE)
: Perhaps the members of Riot find it painful to read and listen to comments of the community because the community is often rude and ungrateful. Like now for example, everyone is being very abusive in the comments section and expects Riot to read all of it and kiss up to them for their trust? The community needs to meet Riot halfway for there to be any trust. Also, Riot is probably afraid to play their own game with the community. Could you imagine the pressure? Just because they work on the game, doesn't mean they have to be good at playing it. That and given the current relationship between Riot and the community, it would be expected for some people to attack Riot during game play. I'm sure Riot must set up private matches with each other from time to time but playing with the community will accumulate better feedback as it will come from those with different perspectives and experience with the game. I just hope that will be possible.
who the fuck are u white knights protecting riot give me a specific example of what they have done that was "in the best interest of the community" instead of just saying general stuff and assumptions u have clearly made with no evidence
ZDFraser (OCE)
: Perhaps the members of Riot find it painful to read and listen to comments of the community because the community is often rude and ungrateful. Like now for example, everyone is being very abusive in the comments section and expects Riot to read all of it and kiss up to them for their trust? The community needs to meet Riot halfway for there to be any trust. Also, Riot is probably afraid to play their own game with the community. Could you imagine the pressure? Just because they work on the game, doesn't mean they have to be good at playing it. That and given the current relationship between Riot and the community, it would be expected for some people to attack Riot during game play. I'm sure Riot must set up private matches with each other from time to time but playing with the community will accumulate better feedback as it will come from those with different perspectives and experience with the game. I just hope that will be possible.
You are saying that riot are going to be afraid of playing a video game? WHAT. RIOT are the kind of company that need a real kick in the pants to get anything done they have stagnated and paused critical elements of the game due to obvious laziness and incompetence. What is it going to take to make them implement things that are critical in a teamwork strategy game ? Things like in game voice communication and a sandbox mode where teams could practice different team combinations and depth towards their individual champions in a much more time effective manner. DO they have to be completely driven out of the market to be motivated enough to put these things into the game? Is that it, well then so be it they will be surpassed by a better game and then they will realize they were not so right after all. That maybe they should have listened to analysts like Thorin and Montecristo, people who have been in the e sports scene for many many years longer than RIOT have existed. Rather than to ignore the advice they are constantly giving to RIOT (FOR FREE THAT'S RIGHT NO SCAMERINO) until that day comes. This discussion and debate is not some tea party for us to be polite to each other it is an opportunity for this company to become better and they want and need our help through meaningful not wishful thinking.
Vitklim (OCE)
: I agree on a lot of things in this, but you seriously went over the top there. First off, don't you ever dare compare League to Dota. It ain't no fucking rip off, I can tell you that for a fact. Secondly, yes i can agree that Riot have made a ton of mistakes in the past, that they have been ignorant of community and disregarded the feedback from tha players. But it doesn't mean that this will continue. This particular article was meant to finally confess to the players, that as a company, Riot want to finally begin to get involved with the community more actively than ever. I understand, you might be annoyed that this had not happened already, but if you try to stand up for it now, only thing you will ever achieve is the further isolation from the community. No one wants to deal with toxic players, and you are about to become one of them. I can assure you, that if at least 30% of the most important features requested by the community were implemented, and Riot would openly discuss with the community their future plans for the game, 70% of the people who keep throwing shit at them for being ignorant will stop. After all, the sheer fact that they have started to admit their mistakes and finally decided to announce their plans on further interaction with the community, is a good enough reason to stop ruining the occasion for all the normal players out here. The last thing that I want to see as an outcome from Riot's signature of trust, is a bunch of 12 year olds rampaging in and shouting at them for all the things they have not done, when what they did already for the game and the players is so huge. I sincerely hope you stop bitching for once, and let some sane percent of the player population to enjoy this in peace.
tl;dr so just to clarify without any evidence or any logical reasoning you think people are just gonna change out of thin air? OH OK yea im the 12 year old sorry man. What was i thinking coming into this argument with actual facts and examples. Rather than u just speculating that they might or definitely will change because hoping for things that probably wont happen is definitely a really mature and adult thing to do vitklim. P.S. If u didnt notice i was be very very very sarcastic just not sure if you would be able to understand that concept considering you are the real 12 year old who is silver 2. http://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=vitklim. CLAP CLAP CLAP. ( the claps were also sarcasm just to make sure you do not realise that either).
Vitklim (OCE)
: I agree on a lot of things in this, but you seriously went over the top there. First off, don't you ever dare compare League to Dota. It ain't no fucking rip off, I can tell you that for a fact. Secondly, yes i can agree that Riot have made a ton of mistakes in the past, that they have been ignorant of community and disregarded the feedback from tha players. But it doesn't mean that this will continue. This particular article was meant to finally confess to the players, that as a company, Riot want to finally begin to get involved with the community more actively than ever. I understand, you might be annoyed that this had not happened already, but if you try to stand up for it now, only thing you will ever achieve is the further isolation from the community. No one wants to deal with toxic players, and you are about to become one of them. I can assure you, that if at least 30% of the most important features requested by the community were implemented, and Riot would openly discuss with the community their future plans for the game, 70% of the people who keep throwing shit at them for being ignorant will stop. After all, the sheer fact that they have started to admit their mistakes and finally decided to announce their plans on further interaction with the community, is a good enough reason to stop ruining the occasion for all the normal players out here. The last thing that I want to see as an outcome from Riot's signature of trust, is a bunch of 12 year olds rampaging in and shouting at them for all the things they have not done, when what they did already for the game and the players is so huge. I sincerely hope you stop bitching for once, and let some sane percent of the player population to enjoy this in peace.
i cannot believe that you are this naive and childish that you would believe that after six years that they would start to listen and change. Some of us didn't have a perfect life like you kid and had to learn the hard way that things never change, especially ignorant people like ghostcrawler and all of the members of RIOT who are in their echo chambers and surrounded by yes men and have a god complex who of which indefinitely rarely revert any of the awful changes they have made to this game that have completely screwed over a lot of the community and have made a ton of players move to OverWatch. Which by the way is the only reason why this joke of a company is fiddling and toying with us the notion they give a fuck. Open your eyes kid and prove me wrong RIOT since its such a big mistake that you have now admitted, be a good company for once and revert these awful changes and let worlds be played on a less drastically different patch and renew solo ranked queues to make the game what it should be- a competitive multiplayer experience that is challenging and rich in tactical strategy such as lane swapping. Of course i dont have to be a prophetical genius to know that this will never happen in any universe RIOT games is in. I really know why i try to argue with these kids or RIOT who are incredibly arrogant, who clearly do not respond maturely or well to any criticism of any kind by anybody so i really do not know why i'm even trying. But prove me wrong RIOT just have a long hard look in the mirror and maybe say i fucked up or just keep being a very negligent and unreliable company who hasn't increased wages for the LCS players for the last 3 years and are paying their casters less money than dota and cs go casters despite being the most successful game in the world. Clearly the dollar is all that matters to RIOT and they might as well become a bank in the future because they sure cannot run a fucking gaming company .
: Ask Riot the Trust Question and Aatrox
ok first question. Why after saying "we need to shift our tone" you go onto say "we need to deliver good shit" who is editing this website? OK and then why is the same excuse always put out by riot as a "scrappy start-up" company that you clearly are not anymore, u have millions of dollars now step it up. Instead of talking about "philosophies" have u ever ever played your own game to realise taking solo q out of the equation was a very bad idea and took a lot of competition out of the game where in other game modes such as normal mode there was already an area where people could just play for fun and troll. Why not listen to the community on this issue? It would be a very good idea if instead of making excuses maybe just maybe admit you made a mistake and revert these awful changes in a slight attempt to regain our trust to make it seem like u give a single fuck about the communities opinions and desires. To say you have been lacking urgency is a very big understatement here riot. There has been no sandbox mode or replay system or voice communication in the chat in this multiplayer game for all this time in six whole years. In comparison Blizzard has had sandbox mode and replay systems in all their games from scratch since the original starcraft in 1998. Blizzard never makes any excuses because they unlike riot are a good reliable company. Also why are riot games with a plural, you have made one game and its a rip off of dota so thats just not correct either. More seriously, why have u been so silent in the first place if your intention was to set a healthy relationship with us ( the community) why have you, RIOT "GAMES" made it clear that you only want to make your own decisions if this is not the case and you really listen to any feedback please provide us with some examples where u have done so in the last 6 years. This is clearly a poor effort to reach out to a very frustrated and neglected community on Reddit and on the forums, if RIOT really cared about our opinion on the homepage there would be a feedback tab or popups asking about how the current state of the game is more regularly. Rather than now it is very late and very lazy of them to pretend like they do so after such a long long time. Everyone in this community should realise that they have been mistreated in this way and clearly this is a false white flag from RIOT, just ask the all the professional players what they think of the last patch and whether RIOT ever asked them if it was the right decision to make laning phase more like solo q and terminating lane swaps.
: Ask Riot the Trust Question and Aatrox
: Ask Riot the Trust Question and Aatrox
we need to deliver good shit? is this a joke. Saying that literally the next paragraph after you said u needed to shift your tone? Is ghostcrawler a 12 year old or what guys. If u wanted to be a good company admit u made a fkn mistake for once and bring back solo q that so many people complained about then. If u want to be a good company provide a game which basic fkn elements like a sandbox mode and a replay system that blizzard had in their game starcraft in 1998. YOU AS A COMPANY ARE NOT JUST SLOW AND LACK URGENCY U ARE BLATANTLY IGNORAN, CORRUPTED AND NEGLIGENT TO ANYTHING THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS OR NEEDS. The only good thing u have done is rip off dota thanks.

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