: You have access to my op.gg go look for yourself
> [{quoted}](name=NORBIT1234,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=wPkMrL9H,comment-id=00050000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-16T03:36:10.494+0000) > > You have access to my op.gg go look for yourself That is another way of dodging the question. I shall take this as your exit from it.
: What does ace mean next to my name oh thats right im the most valuable player in a fuckking sacky team always
> [{quoted}](name=NORBIT1234,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=wPkMrL9H,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2019-11-15T07:09:52.439+0000) > > What does ace mean next to my name oh thats right im the most valuable player in a fuckking sacky team always Dude, you're just in love with yourself. This is what it's all about. You've under perform CONSISTENTLY OVER AND OVER AGAIN. If we scale your pros vs cons, the STATISTICS IS CLEAR. GOD DAMN MAN, HAVE SOME HUMILITY. IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE OTHER PERSON WHO IS AT FAULT! P.S where is the replay show casing your brilliants and the people who have let you down??
: Just finished another game where everyone ff at 15 cause they didnt wanna play and the game before that afk and the game before that a person dc and we played a 4 v 5 from the beginning wtf is up with that bull shit am i just unlucky or is this game no fucking fun at all epecially when you are wasting considerable amount of hours playing this bullshit of a game its fucking really pissing me off nothing wont help
> Just finished another game where everyone ff at 15 cause they didnt wanna play and the game before that afk and the game before that a person dc and we played a 4 v 5 from the beginning wtf is up with that bull shit am i just unlucky or is this game no fucking fun at all epecially when you are wasting considerable amount of hours playing this bullshit of a game its fucking really pissing me off nothing wont help https://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=NORBIT1234 Source each one of your claims and upload a replay link. As far as i can see, you are falsifying the narrative. Prove me wrong. Also, everyone check his dps when he play carry champs. Somehow this norbit guy 90% of the time seem to hover either last, or 2nd last.
: No, that is not racist. Guessing your Chinese then. Its called Shit-talking and its part of our Aussie culture. Ask the Kiwi's (New Zealand). It is not serious, just a bit of fun.
> [{quoted}](name=GOTANYCHICKEN198,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=PP26tb3f,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2019-11-14T06:54:07.418+0000) > Its called **Shit-talking and its part of our Aussie culture**. Ask the Kiwi's (New Zealand). It is not serious, just a bit of fun. Don't pretend a small part is equal to the sum of the whole. Are you claiming the majority in Australia talk and think like you? In my experience the people that talk like that are usually the layman and crass type.
: What the fuck is up with rank losing 1 game then lose fucking 10 games and put with people who afk
> same team of losers every time >game getting put with hella fucktards that just intent to feed afk or just dosent help team Why is everyone else a fucktard and you are the only shinning light? Why cant it be the other way around at times? What make you better than them? Please visualize it for me.
: so anti "elitism" by rewarding people the same rate for pile jumping people who don't have enough trustworthy friends???? That's kinda lame. I don't get why you're mentioning cs, I personally don't like the starter meta (+ none permanent pots or people who buy control wards without a healthy enough lead with the luxury to) so I just buy 2 faerie charms usually on a long range poke spam support and a refillable potion with caster runes and prevent enemies from cs or even xp if they don't adapt then sometimes get the gold item to make grouchy allies happy -.- even though there's already a 7 or more kill lead to surpass worrying about somebody getting our bounty gold. Just don't get Q on Khaz then until it's the last upgrade and max W (if there's some untrustworthy allies + tank runes) or upgrade evenly with e but even without the bonus isolation dmg or passive it's still a nice amount (I don't know the range for triggering isolation dmg or if it's based on sight or the distance between champions in range) and you could just get Q once if you want to trigger an item like sheen or shojins. ARAM is the purest test of adaption in this game to me, e.g I got 4k+ gold on Miss Fortune without upgrading {{item:3303}} at all until the match finally ended because 3-4/5 the enemy team wouldn't build counter items
> so anti "elitism" by rewarding people the same rate for pile jumping people who don't have enough trustworthy friends? Well, you don't see a guy without a GF lodge a complain that he cant date himself. So why should you, who cant form an arrange team, complain about others who can? There are things a couple can do that a single guy cant, and vice versa. Same with solo q, and team. This is purely what it is, you see yourself as someone who is missing out on things because you cant or wont find team mates. To those that make the time in their life to form friendship, rapport building by playing together, you think all of that is unfair. Why should you have to work toward that right? why should you have to make an effort? Life is a such an unfair game isn't it? We should all be getting benefits just like those that play with friends. > so I just buy 2 faerie charms usually on a long range poke spam support and a refillable potion with caster runes and prevent enemies from cs or even xp if they don't adapt then sometimes get the gold item to make grouchy allies happy -.- even though there's already a 7 or more kill lead to surpass worrying about somebody getting our bounty gold. Your tactic is REALLY BAD dude. You are losing gold and extra stats for what? +6 mana regen. You cant get wards upgrade then swap out for sweeper as the game go on. I don't wan to insult your intelligence, so ill simply say this. Learn from those who are better than you, they will let you know where you've went wrong. This is better than living in your own world thinking you are right, and practice a mistake until it become a bad habit. Also, no offence your game knowledge is severely lacking. + You don't think critically enough to benefit purely on **self **improvement.
: > [{quoted}](name=Seras Dragon,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=tQ98FEZG,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-06T05:27:40.305+0000) > > You kinda lost me a bit in that, but I mentioned CS because CS is a skill just like teamwork. That was my point. > > Some people will go out of their way to practice CS and improve that skill, some people won't bother and will just learn by playing the game. In the same manner, some people (of those that don't play with friends) will go out of their way to add people they though played good or they synergised well with and some won't because they don't want to. > > In both cases, both are equally valid ways to play the game. > > Why should one of those groups in either scenario be denied S ranks simply because they choose to play differently? Should I not be able to get an S rank on Neeko because I'm not playing support in what some people would deem its purest form? From your post, you give the impression that you believe players should have the freedom to play the way they want and be rewarded for it. > > As for ARAM, I'm not by any stretch saying that any champ can be adapted for success in ARAM. ARAM Nasus for example usually goes AP which is something that doesn't really work on SR. What I'm saying is that *by design* some champions will have more potential for success than others in ARAM, and some with very low potential, simply because they aren't designed for the team fight centric mode. > > I get the impression we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. I didn't say no s rank, I said why are they the same calculation rate. I tried Jhin support recently and the adc purposely chose Rakan and wouldn't help me on purpose and even said he was doing it to punish me for playing Jhin support (in ranked). Then there's the people who call skill shotters no skillers at timing for spamming if they bought enough mana sustain but when I make a dps that can kill somebody in 1-2s flat they put me on their ignore list -.- I believe people should be people and not sheeple to metas. I disagree because I use to average 8-10 win averages whenever I only played ARAM (because ranked felt too lenient on yucky people back then) when rank use to not have rank up rewards then I started feeling stalked by trolls on fake accounts but it's recently stopped since like 2-4months ago
>Then there's the people who call skill shotters no skillers at timing for spamming if they bought enough mana sustain but when I make a dps that can kill somebody in 1-2s flat they put me on their ignore list This depend on what rank you are. At bronze, majority think the other person is either lucky or the champ is OP. > I believe people should be people and not sheeple to metas People have a choice between picking the highest win rate build, or play whatever they like. Just like you picking the worst alternative, others choose the one with a proven statistics. What is the problem? the problem lie in how effective you are with it. > I disagree because I use to** average 8-10 win averages** whenever I only **played ARAM** And i would have to call that as an exaggeration. > when rank use to not have rank up rewards then I started feeling stalked by trolls on fake accounts but it's recently stopped since like 2-4months ago How can you get stalked by trolls? the SOLO Q players in bronze is so vast. How likely can someone snipe you? 1/50 maybe. Or are you making a point that, everyone who have played with you during that time, hated your style so much they would purposely throw the game? Just like the jhin support example.
: They're worse in Gold, like holy crap man. A dead fish on land is more useful than the people I get on my team. "OMG, DEY GOT FB, AFKING AND THEN FF AT 15 REEEEEEEE" And the best part is, Riot says that crap is okay because "nut against dah rulz"
> [{quoted}](name=Exarch Leona,realm=OCE,application-id=FjGAIbRv,discussion-id=PvHWTvdT,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-11-05T02:24:55.958+0000) > > They're worse in Gold, like holy crap man. > A dead fish on land is more useful than the people I get on my team. > "OMG, DEY GOT FB, AFKING AND THEN FF AT 15 REEEEEEEE" > > And the best part is, Riot says that crap is okay because "nut against dah rulz" Come on, this is getting old. You think of yourself better than everyone else. All the while, ignored all your flaws and conditioning. I would bet my bottom dollar you wont try this in your actual work place. Saying your Co workers is shit, you can do a better job, and the reason you cant get a promotion because the team you are placed in is holding you back. But then again, i could be giving you a view you have not yet reach. Prove me wrong eh?
Thae (OCE)
: i wrote a fan fic plz read and review it
Do you know how to use comma to break up the sentence? This is a terrible 1st impression, one that would likely turn away most reader. You should 1st fix that problem then we'll go from there. Here ill give you a sample. > Lux carrying someone to the house was nothing new, the other were already used to it. But what they weren't expecting was for her to carry a beaten and bloodied Jarvin through the door. > "can I maybe get some help? he's kinda heavy with all this armour" >Pulling themselves together they help Lux get Jarvin into the back room where they patch up his wounds then take turns watching over him, waiting for him to wake. The task becoming rather frequent as time went on.
: your game is fucking trash change my mind
> its because my teams are shit that im in silver and thats a fact. Really? Let me get this right. Everyone on your team is shit, and you and you alone is the best player. And this happen every single match? God damn! Talk about a big Ego and not the skill to match.
: So i guess you look at each person individually on each of my matches which highly is impossible consdiering you dont want to waste time critiqing however if you watch one of my matches im always focusing on objectives cs etc which obviously you dont understand my problem therefore how would you know if im doing good or bad Again thank you for your comment
And what is your problem? Aside from being allergic to self criticism.
: How am i suppose to improve stats when i get a team that trolls afks or is on tilt dont just look at my stats look at my team players im with and look at there stats huge difference Thank you for your comment
How do you explain the other supposes those trolls and AFKs have higher dps stat in comparison to you...
: WEEK 2 updates: AND STILL NOT CLIMBING GOING ON TO 600 RANK GAMES AND STILL SAME RESULTS
Um, no dude. Looking at your match history https://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=+NORBIT1234 MAJORITY of the games you've lost. You are the worst performing player stats wise. Low dps, high deaths, ETC...
: "Number of reports in a game doesn't matter, only a single report is needed to trigger a review of the game." Stop spouting this please. You know this isn't true.
The op is one of those people that listen to 1 harsh comment then threaten the whole team with AFK. Which happened from the look of the above chat. I meet people like that in game before. One small thing and BOOM, the afk come out. No consideration for the other team members that didn't say anything. Then wonder why she got ban. What a JOKE! I would rather take a guy that lost lane to the point of looking like he is feeding, than someone that threaten AFK and commit to it after a comment or two. Yea OP, keep typing abuse in chat, that will make what you are doing seem justify. I would wager that the other guy said something trivial like "You're a bad player, cant gank for shit, or dont gank at all" and such. Then you flip the AFK switch and playing righteous thereafter.
: ***
> [REMOVED] Don't even try to evade with such a weak reasoning. It sound more like an excuse rather than making sense at this stage. > [REMOVED] The world cup team is not considered a pro team. They are a volunteer team. The amount of practice goes into each match is borderline rushed and limited. You can loosely compare it to a solo Q game with random players knowing how to use the basic to communicate. > [REMOVED] Am comparing the fundamental. Both have insufficient team practice, and mismatched quality. What do you want exactly, what are you expecting from a solo Q game? Are you making a point that if players played together with each other often, it will create a better environment? If so, let me ask you this, who the fuck would want to play with someone who point out everyone's mistakes and put them down; Anything else is meet with a storm of insults. What authority do you think you have? Wanna try it with people like me and expect our type of personality to stand down and let you open fire? See how far you can go with that.
: Casual Reminder that bans dont do shit.
> I'm the guy that will tell you you fucked up, and if you go "yeah that's fair I don't do it again" I shut up, but if you talk back I'll fucking explode on you, win or lose I don't care I'll berate and belittle you with the pure intent of bringing your ego back down to the skill level which allowed you you make a colossal fuck up in the first place. But you are not their father, there is no innate respect. And if you think taking a commanding tone will have a positive effect, then you are too used dealing with weak personality. Someone with a fight respond personality will just escalate things. If that is what you are after then go for it, but drop that holier than thou attitude. By no mean you are any better at the game then them, you are of the same rank. Try that in real life vs people of disagreeable nature **when you are on equal footing** and see how that goes. You wont step down and neither will them. What is left when negotiation has failed? FIGHT? > Because that's my personal fucking trigger, people who genuinely believe that they are better than they actually are, to the point where you outright show them how shit they are and they fight it. Because they are not looking for advice, they want to feel good. You are not curious of why they acted that way either, you just want to feel good when you flame them as well. Peas in a pot. > I don't encounter it much at work thankfully, but I've had to sit a few people down and look them dead in the face and remind them "you hired me because you know you don't know shit about this implementation, stop giving me advice on something that you know I'm the expert in" in nicer words ofc I have a job on the line. They might not be giving you advice, they could be reminding you of things they thought you have over looked. You're not exactly a people person are you. > But as it currently stands I've seen people in gold who belong in iron but have an ego because their profile says gold. That is your bias perspective, you have not take in the consideration of boosted accounts, make too many mistakes, bad match up, got camped, not experience enough on the champ, ETC... > And people in iron who belong in gold but keep listening to the instructions of other iron players because they think they are iron. The potential to get somewhere is not the same as having the attitude to get there. This is applicable in all aspect of life. Some of the iron players could be in gold, but their level of enthusiasm is not high enough to pour the effort in. > The alternative would be individual mmr dictating your lp gains and losses rather than team average mmr dictating, and have your individual mmr gains and losses determined by individual performance level. Do you know how the world cup in soccer work? Basically they throw together a random team comprise of players of the same nationality, taken from clubs over all the soccer world to represent the nation. Some have a few high profile players. While other might have only 1. Still they gotta work together to win. Same concept. Individual mmr only work in game like chess, or single opponent style match. Because the goal is to win, not to preserve yourself and play for scores.
: Casual Reminder that bans dont do shit.
> I wont change, infact as ive acrued more and more bans ive just gotten more and more volatile, because i give less and less of a shit about my accounts. A prison in theory is a place to hold criminals for reform, settle grievances for the affected family, as well as**keeping trash off the public's domain**. If this is the kind of person you want to be, then go ahead. Let's see where this mental state will take you. No where great or aspiring i can tell you that. >** Why do i hate this player?** because the current systems promote teamplay over solo carrying games, so i no longer merely put up with their existence and tolerate it, their existence directly affects my enjoyment of the game, i cant ignore them anymore, and the further the game trends towards the whole "you have to work together no matter how bad you are as a collective" the more toxic the game is going to get. Judging from how often you've brought up the other person's elo/rank. I can say this with certainty. You've play this game for a long time and frequently. [snip] This does not sound like a person getting angry at a game, this is a person that is angry because the game is his life. >Whereas when you take a "the individual is worthless the collective is important" approach aka "teamplay over individual play" you breed toxic behaviour because you end up with finger pointing and blame shifting because no one wants to be the guy that brought down the other 4 players on your team, this also breeds a mentality of "its not me its my team" which in turn results in no one striving to improve, which in turn results in a greater number of players that infuriate the people genuinely trying to push the ladder. When a person feel that their contributions don't matter, you can also expect their ability is nothing special. If individual play is not a thing, then people wouldn't complain about why the other lane is fed. Because according to your logic, their solo performance is not enough tip the scale. People who generally gave up and start blaming their team mate after one mistake are generally those who see the error as FF 15 cant win any more. Generally these type of people think very highly of the enemy and badly of their own. And of course there are those that only start the finger pointing when all is lost to let off pent up steam. Am sure there are more types, but these 2 I've mentioned seem very common. But if we delve deeper on the question of, what happen when a game is seen as lost? Things get complicated, this is where personality play a big part on the reactive respond. It generally come down to, given up, or taking their anger out on the lowest hanging fruit. So what to do about it? Aside from putting rules and handing out punishment, you cant change a person's personality, you can only give them enough obstacles to deter from taking it too far. In the end, if they really don't give a shit, rules are nothing. > Ban me all you want, i wont go anywhere, because i can just roll a new account, and whether you like it or not, im not a toxic person, this is a toxic game. Like you can be in as much disbelief as you want, but i am not toxic anywhere else, but no other game i play has a system that seems almost tailor made to breed toxic behaviour. You need to stop playing games and start socialising. [snip]. But hell, why would you right? much harder to fix yourself, easier to point the finger.
: > [{quoted}](name=TheDemonEmperor,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=fdO1BL0e,comment-id=000000010000000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-29T03:10:24.120+0000) > > The collective calls of the noisy minority is ineffective. Exaggerating the matter is one sure way to lose the audience's attention. > > Are there problems with the system? sure. But are those problems to the extend of you announcing them? No. > > Your personal bias has clouded your judgment; To the point of anything bad happened to you, is somehow happening to EVERYBODY ELSE. > > Tend to happen a lot with people that have the mob mentality. It's not just me, it's all of us. Not sure what you're on about but right, wrong or otherwise he's allowed to have a opinion (which is what you also exercising you're right to do by the way) and he is clearly fed up with the system which is supposed to benefit him. I tend to agree with him in a lot of ways but I have moved past the stage of posting about it and try to make the best of if.
> he's allowed to have a opinion (which is what you also exercising you're right to do by the way) There is a big different between me criticising his opinion, and me telling him he is not allowed to have one. I wonder how did you viewed my intention as such. It is sorely misinterpreted. > and he is clearly fed up with the system which is supposed to benefit him Technically speaking, any thing that benefit a person is considered unfair to others. What you are trying to say is fair. Not benefit. If the mod didn't protect his emotional being by deleting my blunt post on the matter "which is sensible by all mean. However this is a new era; The era of cry babies and no back bone. Raised by letting unreasonable out cries goes uncheck since youth". But i digress. Now mods, go on and contend with the mess you are cultivating. You want to raise overgrown children? continue on your path.
: Because the population on OCE isn't big enough for them to even care if 100% of us actually had an issue. But hey, be an idiot and think it's something else instead.
The collective calls of the noisy minority is ineffective. Exaggerating the matter is one sure way to lose the audience's attention. Are there problems with the system? sure. But are those problems to the extend of you announcing them? No. Your personal bias has clouded your judgment; To the point of anything bad happened to you, is somehow happening to EVERYBODY ELSE. Tend to happen a lot with people that have the mob mentality. It's not just me, it's all of us.
: We will never collect enough people to be heard properly on OCE, that's simply a sad truth. Riot barely gives a shit about NA, let alone all these smaller regions.
> We will never collect enough people to be heard properly on OCE, that's simply a sad truth. Destroyed by your own comment. Take a moment and think why that is.
: "1 person working for 8 hours; From reading the complaint to manually checking the replay would take at least 7-9mins to grasp a proper analysis. The finer details i imagined would entails, watching all the moments leading up to the bad scores, as well as exchanges of words." So first the main stuff needs to be transferred into different types of cases, since facing facts, there are people who will troll, and people who will intentionally feed, this is achieved quite easily more then likely through just doing a quick cross section of the reports and finding the key words that would tell about each, not every report needs to show the key words, but letting the community know this is an initiative would incentivize them actively making use of the words as well. "Tilting? Bad plays? team is overall losing? What happen to make the scores that bad?? Is the player consistently scoring bad? being reported frequently? These are question a support employee would need to solve before handing out a game play ban. By no mean it will be a short duration type of viewing." You really are trying to do this in the dumbest manner, which i think just shows your inability to think of a solution then anything else, none of what your trying to say, needs a support employee to be involved. "A crossed all ranks players are prone to report the worst performing player on the team. Especially in silver4 or lower. Which are the bulk of the rank population." Yes but across the whole population, it's not like proper players would get reported every game in a 20 game stretch (or at least a high percentage) your the person who's trying to find the occasional 1 in 20 game inter, not me (though admittedly it wouldn't be hard to tell since they tend to use the chat in stupid ways that make it obvious as well, but not really my point). "If the situation is as toxic as you have frequently mentioned. Then the figures of reported incidents would outmatch the numbers of employees by a LARGE MARGIN. It is a stupid move to hire so many employees to manually view replays like you have SUGGESTED." And that would be why you don't investigate every single report in the game like a moron.
> So first the main stuff needs to be transferred into different types of cases, since facing facts, there are people who will troll, and people who will intentionally feed, this is achieved quite easily more then likely through just **doing a quick cross section of the reports and finding the key words that would tell about each**, not every report needs to show the key words, but letting the community know this is an initiative would incentivize them actively making use of the words as well. You are suggesting using words of mouth as proof in order to speed up the process? Without the game play footage, this is effectively flawed and one sided. Not only it neglect the circumstance of the case, it heavily leaned on the majority's accusation. Which can be easily abuse under stressful situation where 4 players would point their finger to the guy who lost lane. > You really are trying to do this in the dumbest manner, which i think just shows your inability to think of a solution then anything else, none of what your trying to say, needs a support employee to be involved. The one who is not being comprehensive is you, not i. I'm covering more aspects, from reasoning to timing. While you've pushed passed the details in order to get your shallow idea into the arena. The so call solution you came up with, is no more than child play. No serious company would hire you for that idea. It is so elementary, that it is laughable. > Yes but across the whole population, it's not like proper players would get reported every game in a 20 game stretch (or at least a high percentage) your the person who's trying to find the occasional 1 in 20 game inter, not me (though admittedly it wouldn't be hard to tell since they tend to use the chat in stupid ways that make it obvious as well, but not really my point). In order to grasp a reasonable conclusion, we 1st need to understand the nature of why report occur in the case of, troll/inter or innocent. Such as: no sympathy for the guy who lost lane badly, don't know why the team mate got destroyed in lane but take an assumption that he didn't want to win, playing an off meta champ and under performing. All of these add on to losing and temper, people are quick to report others. Who's to say the same player that was reported in one game, wont be reported again for the same reason? Should that player be ban based on others painting a narrative? If yes, then how many games of being reported must the person go through before the trigger is pull? **How can a support employee know without manually checking it through?? Because words of mouth is good enough? You think everything can be boiled down to judgement for the one game?? ** What if someone feed on your one game, but did not do it on the next? But since you are so pissed off about losing you think he is an inter/troll. Better yet, do you track the inting player and determine that they are a serial offender? So easy for you to cut all the information out and make a loose assessment. > And that would be why you don't investigate every single report in the game like a moron. That is why there is a big delay on game play banning vs WORDS BANNING! HOLY @#$%. You don't think things through, you just come up with these 144p resolution idea and think it is HD.
: no it's against the rules it's just "hard to define intentional feeding over just being bad" Never mind the fact that it's obvious with a simple review of what they are doing half the time, but that's not the point. but hey it gives the trolls the "i'm just bad" defence to use regardless of how many games they just int for.
> Never mind the fact that it's obvious with a **simple review of what they are doing half the time**, but that's not the point. Are you kidding me? How many people do you think riot would need to hire to bring your idea into being? 1 person working for 8 hours; From reading the complaint to manually checking the replay would take at least 7-9mins to grasp a proper analysis. The finer details i imagined would entails, watching all the moments leading up to the bad scores, as well as exchanges of words. Tilting? Bad plays? team is overall losing? What happen to make the scores that bad?? Is the player consistently scoring bad? being reported frequently? These are question a support employee would need to solve before handing out a **game play ban**. By no mean it will be a short duration type of viewing. A crossed all ranks players are prone to report the worst performing player on the team. Especially in silver4 or lower. Which are the bulk of the rank population. If the situation is as toxic as you have frequently mentioned. Then the figures of reported incidents would outmatch the numbers of employees by a LARGE MARGIN. It is a stupid move to hire so many employees to manually view replays like you have SUGGESTED. If you think it is simple. Then you are telling me a lot about yourself.
: So what your saying is Riot's whole "we want you to reform, so we ban(/chat restrict) you instantly when the bad behaviour happens, and give you those logs so you can reflect on your actions" Means nothing. Since what your saying implies the above system that Riot has said is the way it's working for years isn't how it works. So the instant feedback system is useless, and can't provide a way to reform, because you literally don't actually see the bad behaviour that leads to the ban.
Then let us hear your suggestion eh? I'm eager to see what wonderful "solution" you have in mind.
: Yeah and people get shamed in youtube videos (rightfully so in my opinion), so why wouldn't that be an issue with youtube videos? Especially since it's a RIOT rule as you said. Just this hasn't been done in the past as far as i'm aware, and i'm kinda curious why this is a thing now.
Riot is in control of contents published by it own source, but has no control over the general domain of public sites. I don't understand why you are having trouble figuring this out.
OCEshots (OCE)
: o.O listen mate twisting words does not change my point stay on topic weirdo. i clearly stated riot seras the world does not revolve around you and they can be considered your rules if you are technically a rep for riot o.O it's not revenge its a simple "hey summoners sorry we think its to hard to police trolls just lose 3LP for having this person in your game" pretty simple but i mean probably a little complicated for a "emissary" of a random boards website.
That is strange, i recall that a certain someone said he would quit this game months ago. > WHY is there no policing on this shit?? "it's hard"? bro you have billions because of this game get your shit together tencent and riot. And on the matter of making money and using it to hand out punishment, you would know about that 1st hand. When you got banned, it is them being unfair. And when you want someone else to get ban, riot is not doing their job. *slow clap. Still the same old OoShotsoO.
Grymmix (OCE)
: Sorry for the long reply time, i forget to check these things. It's happened in Draft pick and ranked solo/duo queue. Myself and all of my friends play on windows. Already played multiple games. It's normally once every few days, if i decide to play non stop for an entire day it can happen twice in the same day (seems to be random). I've tried both re install and repair. Haven't tried other regions so idk if it's region based. Any other advise on what i could do would be great. Just a bit of a drag when it happens in ranked queues etc.
Are you using window 7? Sound like an optimize problem.
JYP (OCE)
: He's already provided enough evidence and you're coming up with lame excuses lmao.
Your kind are so easily indoctrinated. Whisper a few words you want to hear, and that is good enough without any short of analytical process involve.
JYP (OCE)
: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-discussion/M5rRn1ot-fanboys-will-instantly-forgive-riot-again-and-think-they-are-the-best-again-with-the-dzk-issue?fbclid=IwAR1NRu_5q0CaoCz-VmFvwc5I-F1tR7j-hjcWiPmrhnTOLH6Vt6EVGqPe244 Look mate everyone already knows about it and you're the only one in denial. Grow a pair lol
> Look mate everyone already knows about it and you're the only one in denial. Grow a pair lol By everyone, you mean 6 people posted on that thread?
Freesia (OCE)
: Debunked? I have no idea what you're on about, but if people here who agree with me then good I guess they understand the truth. Its facts alright why wouldn't they complain about whats happening at that rotten company. If they were happy then there's no complaints. Those workers have a right to make a complaint, and you're sitting here allowing and enjoying Riot to do these things.
> You being down voted ain't my problem, its just your bias opinions and the community knows about it lol. I never got banned and I can login and add you as a friend to prove you wrong. What other excuses ya got? LOL You can add me on any of your alt accounts at your choosing, and the point still stand. God damn, try to think things through before opening your mouth in a conversation of wit. Also i was talking to Freesia, and you jumping in as though I'm talking to you. I guess this is carelessness on your part, when you cant keep a lie straight.
Freesia (OCE)
: Debunked? I have no idea what you're on about, but if people here who agree with me then good I guess they understand the truth. Its facts alright why wouldn't they complain about whats happening at that rotten company. If they were happy then there's no complaints. Those workers have a right to make a complaint, and you're sitting here allowing and enjoying Riot to do these things.
People? what a joke that is. The so call 'people' is mainly you and your alt accounts. Let me give you the run down of my discoveries, that give substance to my stance. > kamizetvt https://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=kamizetvt My guess is this is your alt account to smurft in bronze rank. > Freesia https://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=Freesia Again, no activity on this account what so ever. > JYP https://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=JYP And what do you know, there is a pattern here. Inactivity again. So why did all these accounts that previously have not posted in the forum, or played any games in ages. All came about in concern for the OP all of a sudden? His friends? perhaps. But why would his friends come to make a case, and the OP remained silent. And all these down and up votes seem to synchronize in a pattern of 8. Am not a gambling man by heart. But if i had to take my chances, i did wager on those votes are coming from the same person using a chain tactic. There is a very high percentage in my mind that you are behind these accounts and votes. Whoever you are. The show is over the moment you are banned. What you can do now is walk away and live life outside of this game.
Freesia (OCE)
: There's no reason to lie about these articles because its true and Riot being a shady company n all. That's already enough proof and I bet Riot paid the affected workers off and told them to keep their mouth shut? Or some dumb ass clause in their contract just like how lol accounts have those clauses.
You are so full of bias from being banned, you have by passed any sense of analytical; To taking any and all sources no matter how unreasonable. Just because those articles exist, doesn't mean it is proven in the court of law. The only exception is the copy right issue. The rest is merely defamation without evidence.
Ornn (OCE)
: hes weak as actual fuck LMFAO beaten by every single top laner and none meta top laner
Yes, he is weak as actual "fuck", and have been beaten by all. "LMFAO"
Freesia (OCE)
: Hey look Riot did retaliate and deleted the post but nice try though but I still have it. Pretty scummy of them to do so, it's like they wanna hide this embarrassing fact. Feels good to have quit this game because I know how shit this company is and I'm now enjoying myself playing Fortnite and Dota 2. Again just how disgusting is this company and my recommendation to current lol players is to quit and play another game. If I was playing a premade game with friends and I drop the N word, the "perfect" IFS will think I'm being toxic and I get banned even though that's how I talk with my friends. Why bother playing this game if Riot games can't punish players who grief or intentionally feed, we are held hostage and can't retaliate to their behaviour. If we message them so we get banned for that, how fucking stupid is Riots justice system seriously. Sometimes you even get banned for literally using the in game chat when you haven't said anything toxic at all. Then you get banned and they expect you to create a new account and spend more money on champions and skins WTF that's some greedy ass money scheme right there!! Btw Korean servers don't punish toxicity, rather they punish scripters and inters. So that means Riot games can't meet quality standards across the board. To be honest I think Riot games will ban you whenever they please and not have a valid reason, as many people have complained, again Riot being a corrupted company. Ya'll can agree Riot is going full greedy mode with skin prices going up, prestige skins, eternals (pay for achievements), event passes, over priced TFT pets. A lawsuit for not asking permission from a soccer player?? LOL client is still bad after 10 years. Dota 2 has bigger prize pools compared to low baller Riot games :), I'll definitely spread the word out that this company and game sucks. I had to dig out all the bad history and linked it below. By the way Riot, why don't you have the courage and talk here face to face, instead of deleting my posts because you know I will keep posting here and on all social feeds such as twitter, instagram, youtube, reddit, facebook and many more. https://www.kotaku.com.au/2018/12/top-riot-executive-suspended-without-pay-following-investigation-over-workplace-misconduct/ https://www.kotaku.com.au/2018/11/current-and-former-employees-sue-riot-games-for-gender-discrimination/ https://www.kotaku.com.au/2019/02/inside-the-culture-of-sexism-at-riot-games/ https://www.engadget.com/2019/05/07/riot-games-walk-out-sexism-lawsuits-arbitration/ https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-08-14-ex-footballer-edgar-davids-wins-lawsuit-against-league-of-legends-dev-riot-over-lucian-skin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx2g6jlxioQ&t=27s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlIE79ehBl4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gszf7c-whGQ https://www.thescoreesports.com/lol/news/15758-cowsep-i-feel-that-in-general-most-servers-have-pretty-much-nothing-on-korea-i-think-that-korea-s-toxicity-is-a-bit-more-i-want-you-to-lose https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/WLy1zXZB-enjoy-got-punished https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/cpy1gw/the_fact_that_eternals_cost_850rp_is_kind_of/ https://meagan-marie.tumblr.com/post/176788011970/six-months-at-riot-games https://www.resetera.com/threads/six-months-at-riot-games-by-meagan-marie-sexism-racism-homophobia-transphobia-rape-jokes.61002/ https://barryhawkins.com/blog/posts/the-story-of-why-i-left-riot-games/ https://www.gameinformer.com/2018/08/27/former-riot-director-speaks-out-about-toxic-culture-at-league-of-legends-developer https://www.kotaku.com.au/2018/09/riot-games-says-it-wants-to-clean-up-its-mess-but-the-people-who-made-it-are-still-there/ https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/6/18069714/league-of-legends-riot-games-sued-gender-discrimination
Nice to know you have so many accounts to use. But try to make an argument instead of repeating links that I've already debunked.
JYP (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheDemonEmperor,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=2NPX99dz,comment-id=0001000000000000000000010000000000010004,timestamp=2019-08-21T10:06:30.443+0000) > > 5TH PAGE > > This is a creative issue. For example an Elvis Presley impersonator is using a persona to make money, should they be sue by the family? > > Should all home brand items in the supper market be sue by their original maker? Should all the cooking you tube channels be sue for copying recipes? > > Should everyone be sue for selling their creative art works that resemble someone else, some where in the world? Mate is that why Riot games lost the law suit and end up paying the soccer player? Riot wanted to get away with this and not pay lol but the fair judge knew that Riot was in the wrong knowing they are a greedy ass company. > > This is not an easy subject to delve into > > Cultural differences. I wish I was Korean then because their servers seem better to play on. They know exactly what is the real punishment and not some money grabbing greedy ass like the western servers.
> Mate is that why Riot games lost the law suit and end up paying the soccer player? Riot wanted to get away with this and not pay lol but the fair judge knew that Riot was in the wrong knowing they are a greedy ass company. You've got your ass banned by Riot's judgment, why are you here to make a case if not seeking a change? If what i've said is irrelevant, then all the more that your words is air. > I wish I was Korean then because their servers seem better to play on. They know exactly what is the real punishment and not some money grabbing greedy ass like the western servers. You want to be Korean because the driving force is to play a game. Great wish! This is why people such as you, should hire a representative to speak on your behalf.
: Permanently banned
Hey, the person who has the time to log in roughly 8 different accounts to create a false display. I will give you the obvious award. What a joke, there goes all your credential.
Freesia (OCE)
: How about you to stop being a white knight to Riot gamess because thats pathetic and face the hard facts https://meagan-marie.tumblr.com/post/176788011970/six-months-at-riot-games https://www.resetera.com/threads/six-months-at-riot-games-by-meagan-marie-sexism-racism-homophobia-transphobia-rape-jokes.61002/ https://barryhawkins.com/blog/posts/the-story-of-why-i-left-riot-games/ https://www.gameinformer.com/2018/08/27/former-riot-director-speaks-out-about-toxic-culture-at-league-of-legends-developer https://www.kotaku.com.au/2018/09/riot-games-says-it-wants-to-clean-up-its-mess-but-the-people-who-made-it-are-still-there/ https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/6/18069714/league-of-legends-riot-games-sued-gender-discrimination
All you are doing is linking forum post and stories. If things are bad enough to take legal action against sexual harassment, why has none of those sites ever posted a current or the outcome of the lawsuit? Is merely saying it, is good enough now?
kamizetvt (OCE)
: Go ahead mate what you got for me? I would love to see RIot respond to Cosmic Gate's intake, straight up embarrassment and joke of a company. They won't admit these money grabbing schemes.
5TH PAGE > https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-08-14-ex-footballer-edgar-davids-wins-lawsuit-against-league-of-legends-dev-riot-over-lucian-skin This is a creative issue. For example an Elvis Presley impersonator is using a persona to make money, should they be sue by the family? Should all home brand items in the supper market be sue by their original maker? Should all the cooking you tube channels be sue for copying recipes? Should everyone be sue for selling their creative art works that resemble someone else, some where in the world? This is not an easy subject to delve into > https://www.thescoreesports.com/lol/news/15758-cowsep-i-feel-that-in-general-most-servers-have-pretty-much-nothing-on-korea-i-think-that-korea-s-toxicity-is-a-bit-more-i-want-you-to-lose Cultural differences. > https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/cpy1gw/the_fact_that_eternals_cost_850rp_is_kind_of/ Yes they are being greedy and thoughtless. Ignoring the bulk of the players are F2P or low spender. Am with you on this one.
kamizetvt (OCE)
: Go ahead mate what you got for me? I would love to see RIot respond to Cosmic Gate's intake, straight up embarrassment and joke of a company. They won't admit these money grabbing schemes.
4TH PAGE > https://www.engadget.com/2019/05/07/riot-games-walk-out-sexism-lawsuits-arbitration/ > More than 150 employees from Riot Games walked out of the League of Legends publisher's offices in Los Angeles yesterday to **protest forced arbitration and sexist culture**, and say they are prepared to take further action if the company does not commit to meeting their demands by May 16th. What was the arbitration that was forced on them to sign? It did'nt say. What BS are they talking about sexist culture? They think the majority of the people have no wife, Girl friend, mother, daughters, or hate women or something. Wtf is this nonsense. The journalist linked Kotaku, now i know why. Same mentality, convenience "_source_". I can sum up the mentality of these people. They think this is a men vs women world.
kamizetvt (OCE)
: Go ahead mate what you got for me? I would love to see RIot respond to Cosmic Gate's intake, straight up embarrassment and joke of a company. They won't admit these money grabbing schemes.
3RD PAGE >https://www.kotaku.com.au/2019/02/inside-the-culture-of-sexism-at-riot-games/ > Throughout her three years at Riot Games, the company behind League of Legends, Lacy made it her mission to hire a woman into a leadership role. Lacy had heard plenty of excuses for why her female job candidates weren’t Riot material. > Some were “ladder climbers”. Others had “too much ego”. Most weren’t “gamer enough”. A few were “too punchy”, or didn’t “challenge convention”, **a motto you can find in Riot’s company manifesto and recruiting materials. ** SAID ALL THAT SHITS. Cant even link any of the company manifesto and recruiting materials. Just left it at that and continue on with nothing but, you guess it. More of their own baseless words. > This story originally appeared in August 2018, and has been republished to commemorate the story and its author winning the digital news award at this year's Writers Guild of America annual ceremony. Yea, let me get this right ok? They gave no proof and the only thing posted with relevancy, is telling me the author has won an award; Therefor i should be willing to believe the person, base on the fact of them winning some contest?? It's like saying a person in Australia with positive security vetting should, at default, be believed based on the prestige of their attainment. What idiotic thinking. This article is a joke. It filled with nothing but far left leaning ideology.
kamizetvt (OCE)
: Go ahead mate what you got for me? I would love to see RIot respond to Cosmic Gate's intake, straight up embarrassment and joke of a company. They won't admit these money grabbing schemes.
2ND PAGE > https://www.kotaku.com.au/2018/11/current-and-former-employees-sue-riot-games-for-gender-discrimination/ > Yesterday, **one current and one former employee of Riot Games filed a class action lawsuit against the League of Legends publisher**, accusing it of endemic gender-based discrimination and fostering a “men-first” environment. They gave a statement yet CANT EVEN SOURCE a name of the ones suing. In America the moment a person decided to go to court, all the information about such case, such as name of the plaintiff GOES PUBLIC. So don't even bull shit about personal protection. No name provide, no case # provide. Nothing! more of their own words. > The **lawsuit alleges **that, “like many of Riot Games’ female employees, Plaintiffs have been denied equal pay and found their careers stifled because they are women. Moreover, Plaintiffs have also seen their working conditions negatively impacted because of the ongoing sexual harassment, misconduct, and bias which predominate the sexually-hostile working environment of Riot Games.” AGAIN, accusation without proof. Just because they are suing, doesn't mean they are in the right, or will win. >** Kotaku’s report revealed** that Riot’s so-called “bro culture” inspires and, in some instances, rewards behaviour that disadvantages women. The 2,500-employee games company,** which is 80% male, regularly turned down female applicants for not fitting the company’s image of “core gamers,” **sources said. Women interviewed also said that Riot’s obsession with “culture fits” reinforced a culture that hired and promoted aggressive male personalities and disadvantaged and harmed female recruits and employees. Again, more BS without hard evidences. It's always, kotaku this and kotaku that. They cant link one source from any other agency other than themselves. Yea "interviewed". oh please! I can say anything i like and also call it an interview. Sadly without any reliable source to back up my claims, it is not trust worthy > One month later, in September, Riot still employed **several of the key alleged perpetrators **of abusive behaviour, including COO Scott Gelb, who was said to have grabbed colleagues’ genitals, another man who allegedly stifled several women’s careers and verbally harassed them, and one other who was said to have had a history of making sexually charged comments or advances toward unwilling female employees. (Gelb did not respond to a request for comment last month.) Riot also brought on Seyfarth Shaw, a law firm that, in the past, was known for its history busting unions. Can you see the trend with this joke of a website now? everything is alleged and baseless defamation.
kamizetvt (OCE)
: Go ahead mate what you got for me? I would love to see RIot respond to Cosmic Gate's intake, straight up embarrassment and joke of a company. They won't admit these money grabbing schemes.
1ST PAGE I'll tackle each and everyone of those articles one by one. Starting with > https://www.kotaku.com.au/2018/12/top-riot-executive-suspended-without-pay-following-investigation-over-workplace-misconduct/ > Earlier this week, Riot’s CEO sent an email to employees describing the punishment its COO, Scott Gelb, will face after multiple employees **_alleged _** that, as a comedy bit, he has repeatedly touched subordinates’ balls or butt or farted in their faces. Do you understand what the word ALLEGE stand for? In mean accusation WITHOUT PROOF. So this Kotaku website started with baseless accusation and built their whole argument around it. GREAT JOB! Too bad in the court of law all of this is hearsay, unless the accusers is willing to come forward and give a formal testimony. All of this is DEFAMATION. Source-less DEFAMATION. > An eight-month Kotaku investigation, informed by interviews with dozens of current and former employees, revealed that Riot Games has fostered a culture of sexism. They've linked those investigations to THEIR OWN SOURCE? who the fuck does that? They are playing trial, jury and executioner all in one. Not even a fair rebuttal, all one sided bashing to further their own narrative. LOOK THROUGH IT, EVERY LINKS IS LINKED TO THEIR OWN "KOTAKU" SOURCE. This is like communist china's trial, they have a 99.99% conviction rate. Corruption and power play. What a joke mate.
kamizetvt (OCE)
: tribunal was more accurate btw, you haven't done your research have you? seems like riot has some greedy measures to own our accounts, compared to other companies. I can literally list a lot of complaints of bad articles that points out civil issues within the company and outsiders too. Hurt or not this is the fucking internet, get over it lol and embarrassingly this is the only game that does that. Might as well play like a dam robot and not communicate at all, or risk your account to be banned if you message in game. It's at your own risk lol and I would be afraid to play this game knowing that I will get banned for not being toxic in chat.
> I can literally list a lot of complaints of bad articles that points out civil issues within the company and outsiders too List it then. I'll read through it and we will go from there. > Hurt or not this is the fucking internet, get over it lol and embarrassingly this is the only game that does that. The context of hurt is subjective. I can say a lot of things about you right now, and the conversation would turn sour really quick; Am sure i can hurt your feeling and you wont get over it. > It's at your own risk lol and I would be afraid to play this game knowing that I will get banned for not being toxic in chat. The keyword here is "I".
Ornn (OCE)
: Here riot I did your job for you
JLopean (OCE)
: wow, I think you totally missed the point I was trying to make , simply put; if you lose because of factors outside your control -> you should not lose points.
There are a lot of factors that are outside of one's control. But they are merely a bump in the road when facing a person with reasonable abilities. > but you can see what an easy fix this would be and how not everyone gets punished * so simple This is not an easy fix. It's only easy if you don't think in depth of all the problems it will bring. So please give me your solution of an easy fix, and ill open your eyes to how complex it can be.
JLopean (OCE)
: Why is riot fueling the toxic culture ?
You might want to play other games that are less competitive. In environment such as this you'll get all sorts of negative; Arranging from anger to grieving, or even joy in seeing the suffering of others. Just as it is unreasonable to ask for a smooth road in life, it is also under the same effect to ask for a free toxicity zone on the internet. If that were to happen, then most of us can only lies about how we feel. > Why not have the afk person lose lp but the team doesnt. i dont mind that the winning team gets thefull winning LP, but you can see what an easy fix this would be and how not everyone gets punished * so simple Because of potential abuse or group bullying for the worst performing player to quit. > I dodge, because i actually want to climb or just have a good game. What does Riot do? they punish the normal player just wanting to have a good game. Again fueling the toxic culture. Again, such a simple fixe would solve this Rank is scale on a MMR system. It mean your silver rank is low enough to be with those iron players. Or vice versa. And by toxic culture, what do you mean by it? Are you a saint and haven't insulted anyone in your life time?
: Riot OCE Internships?
Programmer position is a maybe, but any creative field is over in the main branch. Over here i think their responsibilities is bug fixing and customer service related events for the region.
: mark wtf you dont understand dyslicksique
That is a mental illness right? You cant visually form words in your mind, so it is harder for you to correctly see the right spelling?
: ADD MORE EMOTE SLOT PLS
I think you are mistaken LoL with a social media platform... We really don't need that many during gameplay.
: But he isn't wrong though, ijs.
> But he isn't wrong though, ijs. What does ijs mean? He isn't right either. The guy is splitting people into groups using a simple and substandard stereotype view. He is using himself to represent the conservative's group, as though he is the epitome of the conservative's mentality. And whoever against **his **"group" view is a liberal. The world is not that simple.
Yizus (NA)
: You only get bans if you say specific words that set off liberals. So stop talking like a conservative and you will be fine. ROFL
Such a simple view on how things work. You sound like an NPC.
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