Ninox (OCE)
: Why not just post them?
"Post your chat log. Lets see how "clean" you are." Reasons like this.
Ninox (OCE)
: While I (or Riot for that matter) can't condone its use in *any* form, if that was truly *all* you said, then you may have a case for reduction, but that would be at the discretion of support. Again, we can't give specifics without all the information, which in your case would include your chat logs and your support tickets. I'm not comfortable saying anything absolute when we are lacking so much of the context.
ill be more than happy to DM you the chat-logs
Ninox (OCE)
: If you got an instant 14-day ban then it's because you used no tolerance language. The like of racism, homophobia, suicide encouragement, etc. I would think it would be obvious that such language does not in any form qualify as 'banter'. BlitzBot tends to only respond in cut and dry cases, like "I'd like to report this player" and the bot will respond with "you already reported this player in post-game". If you want to discuss specifics you'd have to post your tickets.
and i 100% agree with you, telling someone to die and kill themselves, being racist and all that is not banter lol. maybe inbetween a friend group but not to randoms because god knows what they're going through and who they are. but if i get threatened, my family gets threatened, i get called rude words and get told to kill myself on a frequent basis dont you think they should be the ones to get in trouble? fair enough i dont report them because i dont take online stuff to heart since im not a fairy but its just annoying restarting accounts.
Ninox (OCE)
: If you got an instant 14-day ban then it's because you used no tolerance language. The like of racism, homophobia, suicide encouragement, etc. I would think it would be obvious that such language does not in any form qualify as 'banter'. BlitzBot tends to only respond in cut and dry cases, like "I'd like to report this player" and the bot will respond with "you already reported this player in post-game". If you want to discuss specifics you'd have to post your tickets.
ive actually never used anything like that. the closest thing to any of those is the N-word. i used the slang version since i am african and i used it in this sentence: "every time i spawn i get flashed on n****" to my teammates...
Socon (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=TwerkWDF,realm=OCE,application-id=T8eq2lFQ,discussion-id=iVqT2nhR,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-05-28T11:39:47.477+0000) > > i just want to talk TO A HUMAN. its abit unfair how my accounts get banned for bantering in game.. i dont understand people threaten me, my family but they dont get banned and i say "ez" and "you're bad" and i get banned and theyre JOKES. i even clarify them in game... > > Ive had my main account banned for a stupid reason and my second account banned for a stupid reason. I think 90% of the players should get banned in my game since they banter but since i get reported by duos i get banned by A BOT.. They should honestly review my games and see the banter.. Im over it. And with the Support i can't speak to a real human i keep getting ANOTHER BOT telling me whats wrong. If your ticket is still open it means they are reviewing the matter if you have requested a human. They will only respond once they have come up with a decision and can take anything from a day to a week. Verbal abuse is almost always going to stay as a ban if you are a repeat offender. However ive been banned by a bot in the past for "inting" when i just got reported 7 games in the past 20 for playing yuumi and after requesting help i was unbanned in 6 days.
i have requested to speak to a human for 2 tickets and both cases have been "solved". i one game i got reported by 3 of my teammates was a game i accidently banned the champion one of my teammates wanted to play. they abused the crap out of me but im not one to report. i made the mistake, i said "oh shit mb man" and i wanted to move on but they kept going. petty things like that are the reason i got banned and its stupid.
Ninox (OCE)
: If you want community feedback on your punishments you'll have to post your chat logs, since unlike support we don't have access to those unless you provide them. Without them, there isn't much in the way of specifics anyone can give you. Unless your ticket response came from BlitzBot you are speaking to a human. Tier 1 (first contact) support will often use macro (pre-written) responses if they fit your scenario, though sometimes they don't fully answer your query. Second response will pretty much always be customised. As for your actual punishments, the majority of punishments are driven by the Instant Feedback System, which is a [complex automated learning system](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/Ifb0rpEJ-riot-should-just-make-a-list-of-banned-words-and-how-not-to-be-condescending). It is in essence a bot, but the false punishment rate (which includes punishments being too harsh or not harsh enough) is extremely low at [just 0.01% of *penalties*](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/oEpXvoXZ-i-typed-these-6-sentences-to-a-raging-adc-and-i-got-banned-for-2-weeks-for-verbal-abuse-riot?comment=00140000000000000001). Submitting a ticket report (or appeal) will see a given case manually reviewed, but the automated system has a minuscule inaccuracy rate. What you consider banter, may be well past the line of what other people consider to be such. Given that this is clearly not your first punishment, it should have been made more than clear to you that (whatever your own feelings on the matter) the behaviour you were demonstrating was not acceptable under the community rules. Chat restrictions in particular, are designed as a warning that your behaviour has become problematic, and you need to tone it back or risk further punishment. Even 14-day bans are a warning, just a strong and final one. I can't comment on the behaviour of others, but in the case of your behaviour, what prompted you to ignore these warnings?
i know people that have legit given it to peoples lives multiple times in game and took the time to add them and trash talk.. they always get hit with a 10 game chat ban or something like that. i got hit with an instant 14 day ban for stuff that isnt honestly worth getting a 10 day chat ban for.. it sucks how soft fairies have the power to ban someone... and i was speaking to BlitzBot.
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