Xuízunä (OCE)
: Thanks for that wean! I will give that a shot and see how I go! Without conqueror i would be useless fighting tanks right? How would you counter that with electrocute?
> [{quoted}](name=Xuízunä,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=pYjFFnuq,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-12-24T10:53:07.510+0000) > > Thanks for that wean! I will give that a shot and see how I go! Without conqueror i would be useless fighting tanks right? How would you counter that with electrocute? Take Cheap Shot along with electrocute, Cheap Shot deals true damage as well. You may also want to take Cut Down, so you deal more damage when your enemy have more max health than you.
Xuízunä (OCE)
: Riven needs buffs
I thought that Riven needs buff too, some time during Season 8, when Darius got buffed, but I knew that at least for me, she may not necessarily need buffs right now, not with the new rune system. Just take Electrocute, or Lethal Tempo. If you take Conqueror it would be too hard to proc since Riven is not autoattack based, even after you used your third Q, it takes a bit more time to proc that keystone, take it at your own risk. Electrocute works better because it is both autoattack and ability based keystone. With Adaptive Force you shouldn't be weak at all, though sometimes your opponent may be stronger than you.
Dagondead (OCE)
: REVERT the Ingame Point SYSTEM!!!!!!!
Blue Essence is not bad, it is just the way that you get it is not satisfactory. Wish that Riot make it so that you get straight up Blue Essence every time you level up, from level 1 to 29 you get 500 straight up Blue Essence after you level up, starting from level 30, you get 350 straight up Blue Essence after leveling up would be good (not to mention that there are also shards). The down side for this, is that some levels require more XP to level up to the next level (with missions that gives you XP, not including First Win of the Day, makes this process faster). I do agree, though, that it is currently not easy to get the champion that you want like before Preseason 8, during which IP was in place. Wish that more missions comes up that gives you straight up Blue Essence, some time from December to January.
: **Riven** would still be considered a **counter pick to Darius**. As stated in the DONG vid, (which i recommend you go watch) **Riven's abilities allow her to hit and run** a Darius. This can be done by **using Qs and Autos**, and then **Ws and Es to retreat** to **slowly chip away Darius's hp, until Darius is low enough for a full combo.**** Darius has mana** and will eventually have to **Recall to base**, while **riven is resource-less** and can spam her abilities indefinitely. Riven's countering to Darius isn't as strong as Darius's counter to Garen. That means **Riven will not Stomp Darius in a lane.** You can imagine Darius vs Garen as 75% chance of Darius beating Garen, while Riven vs Darius is 60% chance of Riven beating Darius Riot has actually put a lot of care into Riven. Last season **Riven had major buffs** to all her abilities, allowing her to **do 20% extra damage in a combo**, and even in this season, Riot games **buffed her hp Regen and ult cool down** to allow her to stay in lane longer and out last her opponent. And it is true that **Riven's Stun (W) is less effective**. But the** effect lasting 0.1 sec less** from the rune is almost **unnoticeable **and only recognizable to be abused in higher elo (high plat+).
> [{quoted}](name=NIghtshadowb,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=NJvw6xE3,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-15T09:51:03.686+0000) > > **Riven** would still be considered a **counter pick to Darius**. As stated in the DONG vid, (which i recommend you go watch) **Riven's abilities allow her to hit and run** a Darius. This can be done by **using Qs and Autos**, and then **Ws and Es to retreat** to **slowly chip away Darius's hp, until Darius is low enough for a full combo.**** Darius has mana** and will eventually have to **Recall to base**, while **riven is resource-less** and can spam her abilities indefinitely. > > Riven's countering to Darius isn't as strong as Darius's counter to Garen. That means **Riven will not Stomp Darius in a lane.** > You can imagine Darius vs Garen as 75% chance of Darius beating Garen, while Riven vs Darius is 60% chance of Riven beating Darius > > Riot has actually put a lot of care into Riven. Last season **Riven had major buffs** to all her abilities, allowing her to **do 20% extra damage in a combo**, and even in this season, Riot games **buffed her hp Regen and ult cool down** to allow her to stay in lane longer and out last her opponent. > > And it is true that **Riven's Stun (W) is less effective**. But the** effect lasting 0.1 sec less** from the rune is almost **unnoticeable **and only recognizable to be abused in higher elo (high plat+). And what Runes should I use in Riven vs Darius matchup in this case? Should I take Aftershock, or should I take Conqueror?
: **Darius is a hard counter to Garen**, his **Bleed passive stops** garen from using his **heal passive**. **Garen has no dashes**, which means he has **no means to escape Darius's E (pull)**.** Garen has no Hard CC** to stop Darius's movement which means** Darius easily chase garen**, and in a long drawn out fight.** Darius will get his 5 stacks and win. ** Because of this, It is** expected that Darius would out trade Garen in a 1v1. ** Each **player is different** and their** skills in playing that champion will be different**. (E.G u don't see every Zed player pulling mechanics like faker) **Your success** against the Darius and loss against the other Darius is **not from the buffs, but from your skills.** You should try to **not use Garen** to **beat a Darius** and you should really watch da DONG teach u to BEAT DAT RAID BOSS. (P.S: Garen has had the same amount of buffs as Darius and his latest buff was on patch 8.17 and the current patch is 8.19)
> [{quoted}](name=NIghtshadowb,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=NJvw6xE3,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-10-12T03:50:09.760+0000) > > **Darius is a hard counter to Garen**, his **Bleed passive stops** garen from using his **heal passive**. **Garen has no dashes**, which means he has **no means to escape Darius's E (pull)**.** Garen has no Hard CC** to stop Darius's movement which means** Darius easily chase garen**, and in a long drawn out fight.** Darius will get his 5 stacks and win. ** > > Because of this, It is** expected that Darius would out trade Garen in a 1v1. ** > > Each **player is different** and their** skills in playing that champion will be different**. (E.G u don't see every Zed player pulling mechanics like faker) > > **Your success** against the Darius and loss against the other Darius is **not from the buffs, but from your skills.** > > You should try to **not use Garen** to **beat a Darius** and you should really watch da DONG teach u to BEAT DAT RAID BOSS. > > (P.S: Garen has had the same amount of buffs as Darius and his latest buff was on patch 8.17 and the current patch is 8.19) What about Riven then? Does she need buffs to survive against Darius and/or kill him in a 1v1 fight, or is Darius also a hard counter to her? From what I know, Riven's stun (W) is not as useful as it was in season 7, due to the Tenacity runes, it would reduce her stun duration on Darius if Darius takes Tenacity. Don't know if building damage on Riven to vs Darius is the right idea.
: Seems like u had a bad game against a Darius.... Watch da Dong teach u how to beat this Raid Boss, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyild1ukXfc
> [{quoted}](name=NIghtshadowb,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=NJvw6xE3,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-10T11:46:13.540+0000) > > Seems like u had a bad game against a Darius.... > Watch da Dong teach u how to beat this Raid Boss, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyild1ukXfc This was before the Darius buff happened, this wouldn't be as useful now as it was before. Guess I need to have a custom game against Darius to find out if he is still beatable. Edit: Just had a game, Garen vs Darius, I took Conqueror, and Darius took Grasp of the Undying. I could not beat him 1v1 as I did before (I could use Garen to beat Darius when I took Conqueror and Darius toon Grasp of the Undying some time ago) Something has to be done about certain champions eventually, there's simply no reason for a champion to stay so OP forever in League of Legends, or else I am sure some people would either quit or lose interest in top lane, even if most people starting to move to other roles, if Darius is picked, he is eventually going to dominate. Riot really need to think about buffing Riven, Garen, and other top laners that wasn't buffed recently, just so that all top lane champions will have a chance to survive against their opponents,
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: This sucks, since we’re forced to do blind pick in the morning you barely have any time to do your runes so I just took grasp of the undying on twitch, because of client lag.
Even one minute after all the champions are selected is not enough for you? How long do you want? Two minutes, three minutes? Do something about your lag by optimising your computer, like ram, and other things, and try and get more rune pages. If you already have 20 rune pages you seriously don't need that much time. If you only have two rune pages I can understand why 30 seconds is not enough for you to edit the rune pages. Seriously, if riot make the countdown like two minutes, three minutes, or possibly more, then some players will find waiting that amount of time boring when they don't need that long to edit rune pages.
: Petition for more time to do runes
I agree, especially due to the fact that there is going to be another rune slot when Preseason 9 hits, 40, 50, or 60 seconds after all the champion selection is done would be better. As for me, 40 seconds after all the champion has been selected should be enough because I have enough pages, that I don't have to spend too much time editing runes.
RedDarts (OCE)
: Waiting time in Queue
When league of legends look for match in a bot game, they only look for the players on your side, they look for four other players. When league of legends look for match in a pvp game, they look for the players on your side and on the enemies side, they look for nine other players, so the queue time takes longer than the queue time of a bot game. True, the actual waiting time for league to find a match could be much longer than the estimated time, and you have to be patient. The time that you wait really depends on how long it takes for the rest of the players to get into the queue that you are currently in. I know it is not really fun waiting for match, and I was frustrated of waiting in the first place, but now I got used to it. You can always choose to look away from the computer when you are in queue (I don't encourage you to do this if you are being invited into a game by your friend, or if you invite your friends to play with you). Inviting your friends to play can shorten the queue time.
: just lost 4 games in a row because i had the exact same support in every game who just afk'd
If you invited four of your friends into those games, and one of your friends afked, then you can just cancel the premade team at the end of the game and reinvite everyone, without inviting the person who afked, add someone else in. If you were invited by your friend to play those games, then inform the person who invited you (privately) that you don't want the one who afked to play with you, and explain the reason for it, and your friend will most likely remove them. If you played those four games in a solo queue (played without joining anyone at all in the first place), then take a break, and come back so that you most likely won't end up with that player again.
Gloss (OCE)
: Want Friends
Something to add from my previous comment, I play from Thursday evening to Monday afternoon (I usually don't play Normal Draft games on Mondays at this time, I would go either Intermediate bots or ARAM on Mondays), by the way. I am glad to do 3v3 custom game.
Gloss (OCE)
: Want Friends
I play Normal Draft games, though I do play Intermediate Bots on certain occasions, e.g, when the First Win of the Day is available, or if I only need a very small amount of XP to next level. Recently I played some Nexus Blitz. I am willing to take any positions (I don't really like Support but I will take it anyway if I have been assigned to it, or if Support is my only choice left). I am not ranked by the way. Don't know if you are taking advantage of the voice feature in League of Legends or not. I've used Discord before, but I experienced lags because there were five people using it while in game.
: Blue essence system is worse than IP
There are missions that can give you straight up Blue Essence if you complete them. Sadly, missions do not appear often, so it is too difficult for us to get enough Blue Essence. Riot should really give us straight up Blue Essence every time we level up, from level 0 to 29 500 Blue Essence per level up, from Level 30 or above 350 or 400 Blue Essence per level up, something like that would be better. Simply receiving capsules with shards are not worth it. Currently I am saving up BE for another rune page.
: Why is Blind Pick is full of great players?
If you mean that your team lose most of the time, then I should say that this is not a new thing, because I play Normal Draft Pick, and I kept on losing games mostly, (even during the game that I won lane). Sometimes, it could be because you are playing with ranked players in Normal Blind Pick, but sometimes, it could mean that not all the players in your team are good enough, and sometimes it could be based on luck (like the champion you picked against the champion the enemy team picked).
: Why is the queue so long?
You may find match much quicker in weekends since most people work from Monday to Fridsy. If you have friends, pay attention on their activities in League of Legends, like when they play. It would also be good if you can play with friends, invite others so it makes you find match faster.
maeiv (OCE)
: Why can't we get blue essence per game??
I kind of understand the issue, but how about this? Rather than getting Blue Essence per game, I think it is better to get straight up Blue Essence every time you level up, like if you are under level 30, you get 500 straight up Blue Essence every time you level up. If you are level 30 or above you get 350 straight up Blue Essence per level. I only said this because I felt it would be unnecessary to have Blue Essence per game, due to the fact that the shards and chest contains Blue Essence as well, plus that if you have a shard with a champion you already own, you can disenchant it to get Blue Essence. At the moment I should say that the Blue Essence system still needs to improve, even with the missions that grants you Blue Essence when you complete them, it is not good enough, unless if Riot bring in missions that grants us Blue Essence at least once per fortnight/once per month, and the amount of Blue Essence must be enough (like at least 3000 Blue Essence for completing all the missions). Feel free to share your feedback on this.
: What champs can be played at both mid and top?
Akali can be one of them. Yasuo is another one (I find quite a number of Yasuo mid in this season even though he was also occasionally played top). I also find that teemo was being played in top lane frequently, but he can also be played in mid lane. Any champion can go anywhere, it is just that sometimes one champion may be weak in certain lanes/roles (depends on who he/she face). Sometimes ADC's like Vayne may end up top lane anyway.
Ornn Bot (OCE)
: I expect a yi nerf in the next patch
I hate Master Yi as well, at least to some degree. In the previous season I used Garen against Master Yi in top lane, it was really difficult to trade against him since he kinda dodges my attack using his Q, and he walks away, and afterwards he uses his Q again, even before I could ult him. The best thing you can do against Master Yi is to stun him, however this is less likely to be effective now if he uses Tenacity rune. Ekko may be able to counter him, otherwise use Nocturne, use E to scare him away, and use W to block his Q. Volibear may be able to counter him as well, due to his lifesteal. Tryndamere can also counter him, Kill him when you are level 6, your ult causes you to be unkillable for quite a bit of time, just remember don't trade too much in early game, use W to scare Master Yi away if you have to.
: Blue Essence
I did see Blue Essence discount on certain champions a while ago, I just don't know when it would happen again. Apart from leveling up to receive shard for Blue Essence, you can obtain Blue Essence through missions, however I find that it would be much better if you can also have straight up Blue Essence every time you level up. How does that sound?
: Finding matches
This happened to me as well, but if you get support and there's no dodge, and if there is a early surrender, then you will be guaranteed one of your selected positions when you enter queue the next time.
Xperia (OCE)
: why are my runes being changed from what i select to when im playing in game
Depends on the champion you have used. For example, if you used a rune page that contains the Presence of Mind rune, when you picked a manaless champion, as soon as you are in game, it will change to another rune because Presence of Mind is used to restore mana, and it cannot be used on a manaless champion. If you used a rune page that contains the Aftershock keystone, and you picked Garen, it will change to another keystone because Aftershock are for heavy Crowd Control champions like Aatrox, Darius, etc. Garen does not have any ability to proc the Aftershock keystone.
: Is the lack of Blue Essence driving people away?
The new Blue Essence system indeed had caused players to acquire champions much slower than the old Influence Points system, even with extra Blue Essence for completing missions is not enough, and it takes a lot more work to acquire Blue Essence than just playing one game sometimes. For those low level players, it would be even more inconvenient, because it would be difficult to get additional Rune pages (yes, I know you can edit rune pages in champ select but two Rune pages are really not enough). Disenchanting shards to get more Rune pages? Don't even think about doing this. RP seemed to be the only best option to acquire Rune pages right now.
HeartVine (OCE)
: Honestly, I think BE is the better concept. Using IP just meant that there were too many different currencies to do basically the same thing, so it makes sense to "combine" them and just have the one currency to do all this stuff. Where Riot failed on the BE was the execution/implementation. Even with the BE from FWotD, BE gains are just too inconsistent game-to-game to actually provide any kind of significant feel of progression, and even on levelling many players still feel they're getting a raw deal. What Riot needs to do is bring back a "BE per game" scheme, perhaps make it so people get 1-2 BE for every minute they spend playing, that way there's a better feel for progression and the "grinding" of BE isn't as inconsistent as it is now.
For a player who had started to level up, it is going to be difficult for them to get new Rune Pages (unless if they use RP to get it). True, you can edit Rune Pages in champion select, but there is just not enough time. You need about eight to ten Rune Pages at the very least. Even though there are missions that would give you Blue Essence if you complete them, it is still not enough, and sometimes the missions are proven to be too hard to complete anyway, like they ask you to win a game with a champion that is not in the free rotation (if I remember correctly), playing Kaisa in pvp and win, or win four games with Kaisa on your team to get Blue Essence, while Kaisa is not in the free rotation, this is not going to be easy. I like the Blue Essence system, combining two currencies into one, but we don't have any luck of getting much of it. Riot really do need to implement more ways of how players gain Blue Essence.
JRPPPPAT (OCE)
: The HUGE problem with "illaoi"
Use Nasus if he is not banned. Stack up damage by last hitting minions with your Q, if Illaoi denies you cs use your Q to last hit her tentacles. Once you have enough stacks (abilities that multiplies itself when used), Illaoi will not beat you 1v1. If Illaoi use her ult, you use your ult, or else if your ult is not available, run from her. Or else you can use Garen to beat Illaoi, just remember to start E, because Illaoi's Q seemed to have more area of effect damage, so you want to spin around her. If she managed to rip your spirit with her E, if you are close enough, fight her and she will either retreat or take damage, otherwise run away, and destroy three tentacles to free yourself from her E or run far enough. It is also important to not call ganks if Illaoi reaches level 6 (unless if the enemy jungler come to gank you), if you do, Illaoi may end up on using her ult and kill you as well as the gank or either one of you and cause the other a serious amount of damage. If she use her ult, just run, don't fight. Get Sunfire Cape, and get boots early.
Sn4ke (OCE)
: The Right Champion For Me?
Have you tried Nasus? While he may be weak in early game, once he goes into mid game, if he farms enough with his Q, he gains tons of damage, and he also gains stacks of life steal by autoattacking units or enemy champions, which makes him eventually unbeatable 1v1, and once he reaches that point plus getting Sunfire Cape, Thornmail, Randuins and Deadman's plate, even building lethality would not really work against him.
: We should get BE if we win a game
I agree that we don't get enough Blue Essence at the moment, and your idea is good. My only advice for you now is to take missions seriously, there has been missions in League of Legends that grants you Blue Essence if you complete them. At the moment I don't think there are missions, but if there are missions available in near future that grants you Blue Essence if you complete them, take advantage of this opportunity to complete them and you will get more Blue Essence. Some missions may even grant you more experience, helps you to level up faster, so take advantage of those missions too.
: Does anybody still play Blind Pick on OCE?
I don't personally play Blind Pick anymore, at the moment I only play it if my friends invites me to do so, I don't know if I would go back to Blind Pick again personally. If I play it, however, it would too hard to decide what runes should be chosen (like choosing between Iron skin or Mirror shell), I would just go with Conditioning in this case if I get top lane and choose a tank champion. Some players on my friends list still plays PvP Blind Pick though.
Sn4ke (OCE)
: Good Top Laners
Garen, Hecarim, Xin Zhao and Darius are good top laners. Garen runes: Primary: Grasp of the Undying, Secondary, either Precision or Domination. Hecarim runes: Primary: Grasp of the Undying, Secondary, either Precision or Domination. Xin Zhao runes Primary, Press the Attack, Secondary, Domination Darius runes Primary: either Grasp of the Undying or Aftershock, Secondary, either Precision or Domination.
: Champs with Gap Closer and Stun???
Irelia (E stun if her percentile health is equal to or less than her enemy, Q dash), Riven (W stun, Q and E dash), Renekton (E dash, W stun), Pantheon (W, both dash and stun).
: Why is Corey so Bad at League of Legends
Why not let him play someone like Akali, Ziggs, or even Kennen?
: top lane problems
Darius might work better. Take Aftershock as your keystone, take Demolish if you want to destroy towers quickly, take Unflinching if you want tenacity after you use summoner spells, then Iron Skin if you are against AD, Mirror Shell if you are against AP, or Conditioning if you are not sure whether you are against AD or AP champions, and then Second Wind. Take Domination as your Secondary Path, and take Taste of Blood and Ravenous Hunter Or take Precision as your Secondary Path, and take Tenacity if you want slow and stun reduction after champion takedown, take Alacrity if you want attack speed after champion takedown. Edit I used Fiora against a few champions but I could not win lane, but I used Darius and I won lane against Teemo, Olaf, and Jax, not to mention I used him to kill Garen once.
esp (OCE)
: You wrecked league.
Right now you get Blue Essence not only from capsules, but also from missions like First Win of the Day, and some other missions. I agree that getting Blue Essence right now is not as easy as it was to get Influence Points in the old system even with missions, but it is not always that difficult to get Blue Essence, I am sure that some time in the future Riot will push out more missions that give you Blue Essence if you complete them.
Ritualize (OCE)
: 16m queue time in fill position
I was thinking it would be good if Riot makes it so that the game displays how many players are searching for match, so that it would be easier for me to find games.
Drivoyki (OCE)
: What do you think of Zoe?
To me, Zoe is a rather interesting champion to play, and she can collect summoner spell shards.
Sn4ke (OCE)
: I don’t know what to play
Xin Zhao has good damage and lifesteal. Zed deals a lot of damage, especially his ult. Riven deals damage and has bursts, and her ult not only deals a lot of damage, it also cause her autoattacks to deal bonus damage for a period of time. Nasus deals damage by building stacks from his Q, if you managed to use his Q to kill a target your damage multiplies.
: Play pantheon he won't even be able to go near his minions
I agree to this statement, I saw a video where Pantheon countered Yasuo.
Doublehit (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Wean,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=UFXd179i,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-01-04T22:15:17.850+0000) > > There is Normal Draft pick right now, but it may not always appear in game console. > You must be at least Summoner Level 10, and you must have at least 20 champions (including the free to play ones) to play that mode. > I wonder how many champions you own right now. > Blind Pick is for the lower leveled Summoners. > > Edit: You don't get Smite until you are Summoner level 9, and draft pick allows only one role per champion, you are not allowed to have duo top in that mode. > > It is possible to get duo top in Blind Pick, provided if you do not have smite. I am aware there is draft mode right now but im not sure how long ago u leveled up an account but it takes a good long while to actually get 20 champions. i own 10 right now. (ones i dont even play just cheap ones so i can play ranked once im 30)
Just in case you don't know, if you want to jungle, you must take Smite Summoner spell.
Doublehit (OCE)
: What's the point of blind pick?
There is Normal Draft pick right now, but it may not always appear in game console. You must be at least Summoner Level 10, and you must have at least 20 champions (including the free to play ones) to play that mode. I wonder how many champions you own right now. Blind Pick is for the lower leveled Summoners. Edit: You don't get Smite until you are Summoner level 9, and draft pick allows only one role per champion, you are not allowed to have duo top in that mode. It is possible to get duo top in Blind Pick, provided if you do not have smite.
Jacca (OCE)
: Best Top Laners Patch 7.24b
CrankyOne (OCE)
: Can some one Tell me how to counter Yasuo?
You can use Poppy to counter Yasuo in this season. For your runes, take Resolve (Primary path) - Grasp of the Undying - Demolish - Iron Skin - Second Wind, and Inspiration (Secondary path) - Biscuit Delivery - Cosmic Insight. Tips Take short trades early on, he will beat you in an extended fight. Time your trades to when your passive shield is up. Use your W to stop him from escaping/engaging. You can beat him 1v1 after getting your first armor item, such as Ninja Tabi, Sunfire Cape, Iceborn Gauntlet. Do not fight him alone in the late game, he will probably win. Fizz against Yasuo For your runes, take Domination (Primary path) - Electrocute - Cheap Shot - Eyeball Collection - Relentless Hunter, and Sorcery (Secondary path) - Scorch - Absolute Focus Tips Do not trade with Yasuo too much in early game, and try not to get hit by his airborne. You can kill him in level 6 if you are not behind. Get Zonyas Hourglass, Lich Bane, Morellonomicon.
: Preseason 8
Interestingly, in the old IP system, you don't gain 100 IP per win, unless if you play pvp and win, you can sometimes get to that point, or even more. For pvp, this may work, but if this idea is also implemented in Coop vs AI, while it may give those players who only plays Coop vs AI some advantage, it might be a bit too much. How about this? 100 BE per win, 50 BE per lose in all PVP modes, including all ranked modes and all Rotating Game Modes. 75 BE per win, 50 BE per lose in Coop vs AI Intermediate. 60 BE per win, 45 BE per lose in Coop vs AI Beginner. 55 BE per win, 35 BE per lose in Coop vs AI Intro. First win of the day adds 50 BE on top of the BE you acquired by winning.
: Blue essence gaining
I agree with the fact that Riot does not give us enough Blue Essence at the moment, not all capsules contain extra Blue Essence. At the moment there is a project mission going on, but it only grants 20 Blue Essence per token, it is not very much. Hopefully Riot will give us other missions that will give us straight up Blue Essence if we complete them, maybe let some missions that gives us tokens if we complete them, and we can use the token to redeem for Blue Essence, and 50-100 Blue Essence per token would be good. The Missions icon is more important than it was before. If Riot can give us Blue Essence in First Win of the Day, there's no reason that they shouldn't be providing us with other missions to earn Blue Essence.
GD Maco (NA)
: (PRE-SEASON) IMPOSSIBLE TO BUY CHAMPIONS WITH NEW BE SYSTEM
Yeah, this happens to me as well. At the moment, you get 50 Blue Essence after completing First Win of the Day. Wish that Riot has some other missions coming up this month that gives us generous amount of straight up Blue Essence if we complete them, or provide tokens that we can exchange for Blue Essence, and I would say 100 Blue Essence per 1 token would be good.
Arkangyle (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Wean,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=kXg8IiIH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-11-30T20:54:20.961+0000) > > If Riot can give us straight up Blue Essence for completing missions, and if they give us missions that would grant us tokens, and if they can increase the amount of Blue Essence per token (like 150-200 Blue Essence per token) would be sufficient, also, giving us missions that would earn us even more tokens like 24-32 tokens, would be good idea too. Project missions give you 96 tokens. Working off 150-200 BE per token would give you 14-19k BE, which is way too much. Not saying it's a bad idea but you might want to reconsider those numbers.
50-100 BE per token would be all right, unless if I am mistaken.
: >earn tokens by completing missions, and exchange them for Blue Essence, 1 token gives 20 Blue Essence. Which isn't worth it compared to the other options just in general. >They also give 50 Blue Essence for First Win of the Day, but it does not help much, you still have a long way to go to get enough Blue Essence. It won't help at all, because it's a net loss for the player and ends up just lengthening the grind between levels
What if Riot made it so that in some missions projects, one token gives you 500-1000 Blue Essence, would that be worth it compared to the other options?
Lairdeth (OCE)
: Very disappointed by Riot taking away the ability to grind for champions
I really wish that Riot gives us Blue Essence in some way, other than just leveling up. Currently Riot gives us Project Missions, and once we complete it, we get Project icon, and inside the Project icon, you will see Blue Essence, earn tokens by completing missions, and exchange them for Blue Essence, 1 token gives 20 Blue Essence. But even with this way, you won't get as much Blue Essence anyway, They also give 50 Blue Essence for First Win of the Day, but it does not help much, you still have a long way to go to get enough Blue Essence. If Riot can give us straight up Blue Essence for completing missions, and if they give us missions that would grant us tokens, and if they can increase the amount of Blue Essence per token (like 150-200 Blue Essence per token) would be sufficient, also, giving us missions that would earn us even more tokens like 24-32 tokens, would be good idea too.
: Level up capsules
I would say that completing missions that gives us straight up Blue Essence would be a good idea. Right now there is a mission going on, Project missions, completing one mission gives you the Project icon, by clicking on the icon in your loot, you can see Blue Essence. Complete missions to win tokens, and exchange tokens for Blue Essence, 1 token gives you 20 Blue Essence, go to your missions tab for more details on this. Hopefully if Riot gives us missions that rewards us straight up Blue Essence in near future, it would be all good. I agree that it is not easy to obtain Blue Essence right now, as I have to disenchant shards because I don't have enough Blue Essence to upgrade a champion shard to permanent.
: Revert BE to IP
How about this? Give us straight up Blue Essence, maybe a Blue Essence orb for completing missions. I know that you get tokens after you completed missions, and you can exchange the tokens you received for Blue Essence, so maybe increasing the value of the Blue Essence per token in future missions, like 1 token gives you at least 150 Blue Essence, would be ideal. Right now there is a project mission going on, but it only gives you 20 Blue Essence per token.
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