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: There is a chance it will be announced by tomorrow bro, but if not, then wait till 2 weeks later, probs the new champ will be in the PBE in patch 8.6.
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: ur b3, this is where bronze becomes difficult to climb
how does it become "difficult". i thought all of bronze was much the same
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: -Varus -Free win pick one. Im only saying this because im yet to come across one that DOESNT int feed ALL game.
: Hard to play but sure and you main mid so yeah
yeah i am mid lane main but got auto filled to ad so i gave him a try and he felt so easy to carry and naturally i played a few games of him. Feel like i might play a bit more of ad considering i used to main him and ad.
Joiksu (OCE)
: Yes, but do you know the answer to the two questions above? Post below if you think you do :) Remember that 99% of bronze don't know the answer :)
well, im not too confident in my answer but ill give it a try and if you could tell me the answers after then that would be good. AD and support start off weak early and slowly become stronger as the game comes on. Their job is to control their lane and also the ad and support are bot lane not top as dragon is closest meaning a faster kill on dragon if the jungler, ad and support are their. Top laner is generally a tank or bruiser and same kinda of concept to snowball or build up and get objectives and help the team. mid laners are AP Casters, Mages, or Assassins for the most part and have great roaming potential considering the are the centre of the map, hence why you dont take tp on mid laners usually cause then can roam fairly quickly. Lastly junglers are are in the jungle as they have no "lane" therefore utilise jungle camps to gain xp, gold and levels. Since they are theoretically "always roaming" their purpose is to gank and put the opponents behind in their lane. All 5 roles play there specific part in the team usually being ad, mid, jg as the main damage while support and top lane are more for positioning and team fights considering their utility "support" and damage and tankiness (top). Hopefully you understood all this and can tell me if im right :)
986A (OCE)
: Quite disappointed at the fact how you didn’t get the rank you wanted this season so you just make a new account to basically get to the average point what’s the skill in that all I can see is you in no way earned silver
ive decided im going to get silver on my main before i even think about cheating my way out of it on my second account
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Joiksu (OCE)
: There are a zillion resources on the internet to help you climb, possibly too much information for someone in bronze. Try to keep it simple. Watch one video on youtube and stick to that until you see change. Don't change your strategies all of the time. Learn more about the game. Seriously bronze is basically players that don't work together well as a team. They don't know what champions do, or what winning the game is really about. It should be easy to get out of bronze if **you do** know what these things are. It doesn't even matter what champions you play if you understand the game. Start with the basics, ask yourself these questions before the game even begins: 1) Why is there a top laner, a jungler, a mid, and two players in the bot lane? 2) Do I know what every champions abilities do and what roles that champion has for a team composition? I'm not talking about laning roles either, i'm talking about TEAM ROLES. If you cannot answer those questions, you need to figure them out before you play ranked at all. Question #1 is multifaceted. As for watching videos, try some guys on youtube, but not the clickbait idiots like NB3, Tyler1 or those entertainers. Go for some guys with learning content, like PantsareDragon, NEACE, Lastshadow, and search for "escaping bronze".
Ok sounds good. I have started to watch you tubers and streamers already and in my opinion I know everything to improve myself I just don’t always utilise the skills I have learnt in game. So once I start doing that and cs’ing much better I think I’ll be good. Just hate how in bronze people want kills more than a free tower or not understanding how much 1 kill can do to the opponent.
: > I currently enjoy playing Zoe, kassadin, katarina, twisted fate, Ekko and anivia. Zoe is banned too often, Katarina is too skill intensive for very little gain (your bronze so just pick something easier.), Twisted Fate is kinda meh in the current meta. The other 3 are alright, and can probably cover everything your going to need in lane, with very minor amounts of bans. >I have recently been recommended Vladimir. While Vlad is good, it requires good CSing scores, which a cursory glance at your OP.GG says otherwise, so probably not a good idea. >Or akali? Loses lane early in too many matchups and is better top, and again you have issues CSing, so picking something that loses early and need's CS to get going is probably a bad idea. So here is the run down of what you have. Ekko: Assassin, If your going to take Inspiration, take stopwatch and either biscuits or future's market, don't have any of that other shit, or if you want a better version, go sorcery get manaflow band and scorch. Get to 2/3 (depending on the matchup) get the kill (use ignite), and build Revolver and Sheen early as your core piece's (because your building straight lichbane and that is terrible) Buy an amp tome if you have to back with less then 1k gold, otherwise buy the sheen. Play around Revolver cooldown for all in's in your own lane, and look for roams on bot lane when they are pushing in to your side. Kassadin: Run comet into Precision and get presence of mind and take scorch, your runes are wrong here. Max Q then E, and remember try and get a kill and them spam ult, BUT you have to have at least 800 Mana to be able to spam for the whole 6 (7?) seconds. Anivia: Take scorch in your Anivia Runes, waterwalking is not something you want, Hit 2 and try and harass with Q>E, and stop leveling E level 1, always get Q level 1, not to mention, W should be 4, get a second point into E for level 3. In fact because your runes were really bleh in all of these i'll screenshot some for you. Ekko; https://image.prntscr.com/image/e3qGn-buS2mKMGqXC0458Q.png Kassadin; https://image.prntscr.com/image/NCjfcuH_SMabn2wcuks1Lg.png Anivia; https://image.prntscr.com/image/hrdyLIJkTzG0mDjEO8b_5Q.png
Ty for the runes and advice. Someone’s I get in game and have to switch champ at the last second for who I planned to play therefore I rush doing my runes. Also I if I start cs ing better would glad be ok?
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00shots00 (OCE)
: I got my new account to lvl 30 in 4 days of 8 hours a day playing
Ok ty for the advice. I'll proba just try and get gold on my second account other than my main.
00shots00 (OCE)
: I got gold on my second/new account while my main was hard stuck bronze LOL
Wow nice. Is 00shots00 your new account? Also what champion did you use in your placements and how many placements did you win?
: LMAO, on one of my accounts i went 0/10 in provis, and got placed silver 1, with no previous MMR, maybe you're just bad and your friend is better. My friend went 5/5 in her provis, and ended up silver 3, with silver 2 MMR, with worse stats than me, in pretty much all games (excluding the one where i literally inted, because heal/ghost jg...) What you get in provis is not the singular impact on your MMR, KDA, Objective Control, Warding (all the other stats you seen in graphs at post game) all impact it, maybe you need to improve in those areas, if you're playing tanks, self-mitigated, with high dmg taken and low deaths will improve the MMR (a little bit) If you're adc, good kda, decent objective control, high cs If you're support (Tank ~ see above ~), mage/utility, high Crowd control/warding scores If you're mid, same as adc Can't help with jg, because fuck that role, but i assume high kill participation, baron/drag control would do something Provis is but one factor (the largest, but no the only) your score counts too, if he has better scores than you, he's gonna get placed higher
TBH, I don’t think I am bad. I am just impatient at the fact it takes days and weeks to get to my desired rank. Although I am frustrated on how my friend got this rank when I think he did not deserve it at all. And also if I was to get to silver in my placements what champion would you recommend be the easiest. Tanks?
: To be frank and honest. To get out of Bronze all you need to do is actually use your brain while you are playing. Most the bronze people I know, simply don't think while playing or have 0 clue about how champions work. I would suggest you download and watch your replays in the client. Most people will see mistakes when watching gameplay, but its hard to notice them while actually playing so going back and watching can really help. The one big thing i'd say is you need to improve your CSing. averaging less than 5 a minute is bronze level. Simple steps to getting out of bronze. * focus on yourself, don't get mad at others (mute is your friend) * understand how EVERY champion in the game works * learn powerspikes for the champions you play * USE YOUR BRAIN. If you get a kill, grab an objective or push a lane, dont back for no reason. Honestly with you leveling a 2nd account because you want to hit silver because your friend did that in his placements seems more to me like you think you deserve silver and cant get there because of teammates. I'd rather you get better and struggle through the climb then look for a quick fix because your mate got lucky. I will tell you this. Bronze is the easiest rank to climb through. If you can't get out of bronze to silver, you won't make it any further on a new account. You may place silver, but you will drop back to bronze if you don't belong there. You got placed B1 on your account and ended the season B3. If you were a silver level player, you wouldn't have dropped. If your friend truly does suck so much as your other post suggests, then he will be bronze soon enough if he keeps playing.
I actually have been doing those things I am claiming but not that fast. I think I’m just getting too impatient and need to perfect the skills you mentioned.
00shots00 (OCE)
: I work for 11 hours a day and get to play for about 6-8 hours a day, I still climb or at least I still get a lot of games in. i'd say find a champ you really grasp or really want to play, find a 1 trick on youtube and listen to everything they say about cooldowns when to go in how much farm they want, how to come back and so on. I mean I don't know what role yu play but someone like "solorenektontop"is a pretty good player to learn from or "pantsaredragon" they are kinda boring at times but if you really have a aheart for league they are the best. also my personally and not so popular favourite "boxerpete".
Ok thanks for the advice. I am starting to watch challenger ranked streamers and you tubers and it has helped. I’ve started to stop overthinking everything and focus on playing “my game” when I get in a ranked. I have now climbed from b5 to b4 and slowly climbing. I think after focusing on my gameplay and actually thinking about everything I do has helped me improve.
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WilliK (OCE)
: Can someone explain this to me?
Here is his op.gg my bad forgot to post it: http://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=Retarded+clone
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: I'm only silver I'm after a top/sup main and your close enough I main mid and jg primarily I'm aiming for plat, if you want I can drag you around if you promise to learn
Yeah sounds good. I sent you a request.
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Sn4ke (OCE)
: If you do intend to play Top which is probably something you really shouldn't play as Fitzky said but play Meta champions like Maokai and Nasus. Tanks are the meta in the top lane but picks like Riven and Irelia can still work. For the mid lane i suggest you play AP champions as everyone plays AD in low elo. Akali is really good for carrying and climbing in games same with Katarina but they do have high skill ceilings. Good champions for mid would be Orianna and Vladimir for AP and for AD I'd say Zed & Katarina but you do have to get good at them before you play ranked. Hope this helped and good luck!
Ok thank you for the advice! I am finding mid very fun atm and actually starting to win games. I do play some ori and Kat however I was thinking on purchasing anivia or maybe trying vlad.
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: Let me know when you're online and I will try and help you. #Freecoaching
Sure, sounds good! I believe I added you already
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: Getting to 80lp is token and means nothing. To climb properly you need to; A) Fix your MMR B) Win consistently over a large sample size (your last 20 games have a 50% win rate, this isn't a high win rate) C) Focus on getting better at the game rather then climbing, one comes after the other, and not the other way around.
Ok good advice. I have definitely been trying to correct my flaws in bronze and improve my overall gameplay (warding, map pressure, wave control, when to and when not to fight and csing). I find that I know what to do a lot do the time but when I get in game I seem to forget and not do all of those things and only say 1-2 of them which I think is setting me back a little.
986A (OCE)
: You also have a 33% Winrate as jax Your overall win rate is much more important than your 8 games total stop playing so many different champs and focus on the TF if that’s what you want
Yeah I am trying to narrow down my champions pool. I have found TF, ekko and massaging for mid and jax And rumble for top. It has overall helped my win rate climb to nearly 50% now.
Rengorax (OCE)
: You shouldn't be asking for an estimate, you should be asking for advice and looking to improve. I am only mid gold rn going for plat this season but I would offer some of these tips based on your match history: 1. Look up high-elo rune pages, your's seem really inefficient and overall putting you at a disadvantage 2. Stick to one role, and have a second to fill on. Maybe focus on TF mid and maybe have a backup. 3. Learn how to CS. As a bronze 5 player you current goal to climb should be somewhere like 60-70 by 10 minutes, 140-150 at 20 minutes. You don't necessarily need this for this elo but it helps a lot. 4. JasonWazza is correct, you are going to have to accept that logically over a large sample size if your win rate is sub 50, you won't climb. However, you are clearly performing well on TF this season and are slowly climbing on him. And will eventually get 50%. 5. While bronze players are kind of inexperienced and foolish, their main weakness is they throw their leads, and can't come back from early game losses. Try and learn to exploit these weaknesses. 6. Bronze players have a tendency to always push mid and never go into the side lanes, kind of just have a stare off with the enemy team. If you are confident you can 5v5, go into the fastest pushing lane and try and force a fight (if you have engages). If you aren't so sure, send your split pusher into a side lane and try and draw pressure. While the nexus is like the king in chess, it doesn't mean you are trying to forcefully get them in check every move, it might be better to get their queen or rooks first (inhibs, side towers, etc) to put a lot of pressure on them. There are a few more things I could think of but you are a unique player, you clearly have dedication to climb as you aren't playing much normal or flex games which is good, but you need to get into the mindset of {if you improve: you will climb} look to better yourself each game. Not much to lose in bronze 5 anyway.
Ty for the advice. I have been watching a lot of high elo gameplay lately and since then I have now entered my B4 promos. I have also gone into custom games just to practice csing and felt like it has helped me. I have also been focusing on warding, map awareness, when to and when not to fight and prioritising objectives rather than kills. My win rate is nearly at 50% now as well.
: 38% win rate = never. You need minimum 50% win rate to ever climb.
I am already climbing tho? In the last 2 days I've gone up nearly 80lp. I think my win rate should be higher however it's much lower from a losing streak I had. I also have a 88% win rate with twisted fate. I feel like that from even 2 days ago (little as it sounds) I'm already focusing more on key things to improve me as a player and improving.
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: > in bronze do you basically just play and if you are good enough you will climb? yeah pretty much, those players you see who are bronze but claim to be way better, those who say they get shit team mates who hold them back those players usually have shit mechanics and try to play champions that are to hard for them, the usually dont notice they are tilted and playing poorly until they are super tilted > I am playing around counter picks, meta champions and high win rate champions based on stats on websites. Is this necessary to do in bronze? imo it isn't necessary in bronze, the most important thing is playing easy champions that you are good on, obviously if a champion is genuinely under-powered its not a good idea. i always recommend playing Morgana mid because you can farm super safe with her w get picks in the midgame with your q help your adc with your w and since its bronze its not really that hard to get solo kills with her. > I play around 8-12 games a week if I actually start climbing and improving more is getting to silver 5 in 1-2 months a realistic goal? i think it is a realistic goal 2 months is more than enough time so long as you play smart and dont keep playing if you start to tilt (if tilting is a major problem for you that is) > how do I deal with dc’s, feeders and teammates that just tilt and give up? you report the ones who need it, but if that does happen you just need to keep positive and maybe take a break, also if you play ranked in the middle of the night your more likely to get matched up with tired/stoned/drunk team mates its better to play when you think there will be less of that > I’ve been suggested to play ahri to climb as I play mid and top in ranked. Is she a good champion to climb and if not is there any other picks anyone can recommend imo i wouldn't play ahri in ranked not unless your willing to get her to level 6 or 7 in normals first. i dont think shes a bad champion but most of her lanes are skill match ups which unless your jungler camps it mean you have to outplay your opponent but she is good a snow balling games and great at getting picks, but shes one of the higher skill champs even tho im bronze 1 in flex this season and haven't done my placement games for solo/duo i did get to silver 5 relatively easily last season playing TF and ganking botlane and in season 6 i started playing a tonne of lulu mid towards the middle of the season when the adc was a hyper carry, i also played a lot of eve jungle and would camp my duo.
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: Play anyone anywhere and if you get good enough at them you will climb
Ok ty for the advice. I think my problem is falling too much into the meta and only playing champs that people say aregood.
: Gameplay isn't my strength, but I will say that especially in Bronze, game knowledge tends to be much lower, so knowing *any* champion inside and out is going to give you an advantage, especially if it's a less popular champion. Ultimately any champion is good to climb with if you're good enough at them, and it's better to play what you know and what you're comfortable with than something you barely know how to play just because it's a counter. That said, TF has distinct strengths, and if you can use them to their utmost, he can be very strong. He's squishy and has fairly short range as mages go, but he has a point and click stun and global vision/positioning which are something really worth playing to. He can be bursty but in this meta he takes quite a while to output his damage in comparison to other mid laners, so that's something to be aware of. Positioning is a big thing with TF for that reason (and his range) so if that's something you struggle with I probably wouldn't recommend him. Ultimately though, a champion you enjoy is one you are going to play better than a champion you hate. You just have to remember that in the end climbing is dependent on your overall skill, not what champion you are playing.
Ty for the opinion and info I'll take this into mind
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: Learn one champion for one position :) quickest and easiest way to learn. Just make sure you have a sub champion in-case it gets picked or banned.
ok ill look in to other champions more ty
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: Do you have discord
Yeah I got discord, realised ur on NA though
Fitzky (OCE)
: Alright as a low elo player here are the best tips you should follow: 1. Focus only on playing and getting good at two roles. 2. Have roughly 2-3 champions per role that you are comfortably good with. 3. In case of stupid autofill, make sure you have 1-2 champions for every other role that you KNOW how to play at the very least. 4. To better help you at climbing, look at champion.gg and see which champions have the highest winrate for your two selected roles and try playing them as frequently as you can, it will increase your chances of winning drastically. The reason why it's best to try and focus on and master two roles is because the game will be much easier to win when you are against opponents you've faced many times before and know how to play against. Also playing the same two roles all the time means that you will also be playing the same group of champions all the time so your experience on how to play them in certain matchups will be much better. Take me for example, I've played Top lane for 3 years, so I've pretty much faced EVERY single top lane champion that exists in the game at least 10+ times. My main champions are Darius, Jax, Tryndamere but I also play Renekton, Vlad, and Fiora very frequently. Since I queue up for top as my primary role I pretty much play one of these 6 champions almost 90% of all my games. So I have A LOT of experience on these champions which means not only do I have a lot of knowledge on how to PLAY them, but also how to play them AGAINST every other toplaner, even against some in my own champion pool. Also regarding autofill, don't waste your time trying to practise getting really good at a lot of champions in EVERY role, it's seriously not worth the time compared to how frequently you actually get autofilled. Seeing as though you get autofilled 1 in every 10 games, it's not worth the time you could be spending getting good at the roles you play 9 out of every 10 games.
Ty for the help and recommendations it means a lot!
: Vast majority get placed a little lower than their end of season rank. It seems you've already finished your placements and discovered that however. For a B3 end of season rank, B5 is well within expected.
Ok fair enough I did however get placed b1 last season and was 1 win off silver
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