Timmy1224 (OCE)
: Whats the definition of getting S in game?
To get an S rank you have to report and successfully get him banned. Thats why no one gets S ranks anymore, because the report system doesnt do fucking anything.
Rioter Comments
Fitzky (OCE)
: Who are you referring to?
You know, that troll that i have been name and shaming for the last FUCKING YEAR and everytime, a riot employee fucking protects the %%%% by removing the name, and he gets away scott fucking free. I mean fuck dude, the reason im spending more time on the boards right now than actually playing the game, is i gave up the second i saw him. He is a walking unwinnable game.
Rioter Comments
FBI MAN (OCE)
: THIS ONE GAME, Has made me lose hope in this community
I like how they removed the names but i can still see the names in the image. Cheers for the heads up ill make sure to dodge whenever i see those two or report them if they are on the enemy team.
: Well perhaps the difference between us, is that like you say, you make these posts every day, and this is the first one I've made all season. But you are right, I shouldn't have made this post. I was just stuck in a moment of despair as I watch all my hard work go down the drain due to a few bad games. But you should know that I have no bias towards or against anyone! I have had intense arguments with just about everyone on the boards _(Marauder included)_. but ill be the first to back them up in a different discussion where our thinking is aligned! I see everyone here as part of the community, a community that I love. But you make an interesting point, that we don't make these posts when it's us that fucked up. Perhaps becasue we can see the justice in it, _"I fucked up and I lost."_ is a fair rationale to yourself. _"I played well, they fucked up and we lost."_ isnt fair, so it makes us feel worse.
Thats pretty much my point yeah. Like my last game i played norms with a few coworkers, they are all gold, i got stomped in lane by an ori, ultimately i played like utter trash. But i still had the macro play required to split the top lane and take an inhib tower and inhib despite being 2/6. That is the baseline level of play i expect from my teams, if you feed then have good lane pressure, if you dont have good lane pressure help the rest of the team survive teamfights. if you cant do those 3 things (not feed, have good lane pressure, help peel carries in fights) then ill make a post about you, its really that simple, because all 3 of those things you should have learned by the time you are level 30, assuming it takes about a month of semi casual play to reach level 30, let alone the thousands of games some of these players have played. So when i lose because a player just simply lacks those 3 core skills that they should know by now, i get pretty salty. its the reason im an avid supporter of having a prerequisite skills test to be able to play ranked, because the people i bitch about arent players having a bad game, its players who from my observation simply lack the basic skills required to win games. like ive had teams who actually do meet my expectations, and they are great, for instance pick literally any one of the games where we get stomped and lose our nexus towers, but we won anyway. Those teams meet my expectations, they arent good, they got trashed as did i in those games. But we won anyway because we knew to stall out the game farm up and apply pressure to all 3 lanes pushing only when we get an ace. A very basic strategy to win the game, but one that many many bronze players simply do not know how to pull off.
: Except this post is literally the exact same type of post as mine. plays a few games where its not your fault. Blames team. Complains about how they are actually better than the elo they are in. Its my exact formula. The issue is you have a bias towards yourself and against me. in your head when i do it its because i made bad calls/plays and am blaming my team for it, where as when you do it its you calling out your team for being bad. The difference is i see yours as you calling out your team aswell as my own, because i lack said bias. Part of the issue is i only make those posts when i have an actually terrible team, i dont make those posts when im the one who fucked up. But being in bronze means i have a far larger percentage of my teams be terrible compared to that of a higher elo, hence i make more of these posts. The bias comes from the fact that as you dont see the posts i dont make as they dont exist you assume i make these posts for literally every bad game i play. Take my last game, i smashed the enemy mid laner, roamed bot and top and smashed them too, and took all our towers for us, i was without a doubt the hard carry for that game, all 4 members of my team, fed, and had less gold than the enemy support, only an idiot would say i lost that game because of my bad plays. You could argue that there may have been more things i couldve done to change the outcome, but only an idiot would say i am the reason that outcome happened in the first place, because the difference there is me not doing things that couldve changed the outcome, is me not doing things to FIX the outcome. one is something that is only ever an issue if someone else fucked up and now you have to fix it. And the other is a direct cause for the loss. In your case, no one picking tanks is a direct cause for a loss, or atleast a direct contributor. Just as the teams that i complain about that feed and ultimately contribute nothing to the team are direct contributors to my losses.
Hopefully i have explained that well enough because im not here to call you a hypocrite. But rather to enlighten you to the fact that what you are feeling right now. Is the reason i make those posts every day, because thats how i feel every day playing in bronze.
: Hardly a rage post, more self-pity than anything else. While I agree that you should never flame your team. Im not naive enough to think that it's _never_ their fault, or that it's never yours. It's a team game, which means 5 people need to work together, thats a lot of room for error. A LOT of team complaints are down to players not willing to blame themselves for bad calls. But inevitably there are some games where you did everything in your power and it wasn't enough. Im certainly not saying all games are like that, but these last 5 of mine were, _(and as you know, I'm not one who is quick to blame others.)_ Ive had plenty of games this season where the loss has been mostly my fault. Am I a hypocrite? Probably. but I don't think I'm being hypocritical here. Im more wallowing in my sorrow here than anything else.
Except this post is literally the exact same type of post as mine. plays a few games where its not your fault. Blames team. Complains about how they are actually better than the elo they are in. Its my exact formula. The issue is you have a bias towards yourself and against me. in your head when i do it its because i made bad calls/plays and am blaming my team for it, where as when you do it its you calling out your team for being bad. The difference is i see yours as you calling out your team aswell as my own, because i lack said bias. Part of the issue is i only make those posts when i have an actually terrible team, i dont make those posts when im the one who fucked up. But being in bronze means i have a far larger percentage of my teams be terrible compared to that of a higher elo, hence i make more of these posts. The bias comes from the fact that as you dont see the posts i dont make as they dont exist you assume i make these posts for literally every bad game i play. Take my last game, i smashed the enemy mid laner, roamed bot and top and smashed them too, and took all our towers for us, i was without a doubt the hard carry for that game, all 4 members of my team, fed, and had less gold than the enemy support, only an idiot would say i lost that game because of my bad plays. You could argue that there may have been more things i couldve done to change the outcome, but only an idiot would say i am the reason that outcome happened in the first place, because the difference there is me not doing things that couldve changed the outcome, is me not doing things to FIX the outcome. one is something that is only ever an issue if someone else fucked up and now you have to fix it. And the other is a direct cause for the loss. In your case, no one picking tanks is a direct cause for a loss, or atleast a direct contributor. Just as the teams that i complain about that feed and ultimately contribute nothing to the team are direct contributors to my losses.
: I'll speak for the low elo community here. *"Tanks aren't fun"* To distinguish myself from the average bronze, i do play tanks when the time calls for it but I can tell you from experience that tanks don't do too much damage and are pretty much CC bots. The main problem of low elo is the fact that all they care about is kills. They don't give a fuck about objectives until they've 1v5ed for a penta. Games would be over much more quickly if bronze didnt neglect objectives for kills. So they obviously want a champ that can probably carry a game, hence why late game carries are effective because the game was probably stalled into late game. Just my 2 cents -StealthVortex88
I would personally beg to differ, when you have a titanic hydra on chogath and are running around with 10k health because you took smite top for cinderhulk, tanks can be pretty fun. Auto attack for 1k damage followed by a 2k true damage ulty? yes please.
: It's so horribly depressing...
Yes yes, welcome to the dark side. Join me in the rage posts, sink to my level. But no seriously, for someone who is usually like "its not your teams fault its you" on my posts, i expect better from you than to be this hypocritical.
: Is Thornmail doing its job?
Thornmail by itself? no. Thornmail in combination with a hextech gunblade, a spirit visage, some form of magic damage enhancement, a pair of tabi's and something to apply grievous wounds? eh still no but it atleast makes them think twice about autoing you. I mean i have a 100% winrate with the hextech thornmail build on thresh because i can build less armor items and more items to increase my thornmails damage or my hextechs heals since i get armor from my souls, that and threshes kit lends itself to making you the most annoying character on the team if you play him right, which leads to adc's targeting you first. personally if i was to make any change to thornmail it would be one of these three, but only one of them. Make it apply grievous wounds. Change the armor scaling from bonus armor to total armor and increase it from 25% to 30% (this means your typical 300 armor tank will do ~100 flat damage pre mitigation per auto before the reflect damage is factored in) Reduce the flat armor it gives and give it a "grants 30% of total armor" mod Anyone of those 3 would be enough to make the damage far more noticeable to adc's, especially that total armor modifier, anyone who has played the new rammus and gotten around 300 armor will know when you hit w and gain 70% more armor adcs chunk themselves hard when they hit you.
Fitzky (OCE)
: Woah what the hell board mods firing shots?? Who are you?
hes an emissary not a mod. Aka he actually plays the damn game, i see him come online every now and then (hes on my friends list though we havnt talked in like a year)
Kiotic (OCE)
: TOXIC PLAYER PLEASE BAN (WITH EVIDENCE)
Yet another case of riot protecting the offender rather than the victim.
: Suggestion to Improve Ranked Health
Failing my real life verification idea this would be a close second to fixing ranked health. Anything that physically removes trolls from the queue is far better than telling them they shouldnt do it.
Mozzie25 (OCE)
: Your complaining about the reporting system not banning people on a thread about some being banned.... by the reporting system. You do see the irony there right
"See this one person got banned therefore its impossible for a large quantity of players who should be banned to not be banned" Confirmation bias mate. For every player you can point out thats a confirmed ban, i can find three that werent.
HeartVine (OCE)
: > It's the Tribunal you should be pissed off at and the players that much more. It doesn't really help to be pissed off at a system that doesn't exist (it's true, we've never had the tribunal on OCE and it was revoked from every server years ago). If anything, you should direct some of that anger towards Riot, though it's not too often that punishments (especially bans) are made in error.
best way to keep your error rate for bans down. is to reduce your ban rate, and considering the actual quantity of bans is tiny in proportion to the number of players who should be banned. said error rate being small is not actually all that impressive, nor relevant.
: Name shame systems are in place for most online games and boards, not just league, to protect everybody and prevent witch hunts. You know, so trolls can't go around pasting names like you are threatening to do. Of course none of this applies to THELEGEND27 as he must be stopped by all means :p
Name and shames are in place to protect people from being illegitimately accused of something they didnt do. on the otherhand if they actually did do that action and you have evidence of this, then protecting them from name and shaming is the equivalence of protecting the details of a known criminal during the court hearing. Its just plain dumb and only serves to add one extra layer of protection to the antagonist on the very likely chance he/she doesnt get punished, like in my case, where the player i am name and shaming goes years without getting so much as a slap on the wrist, gets a 2 week ban, which should be proof enough that i was right all along, then when they come back and immediately start doing the same thing again proceed to yet again go unpunished. Now i dont know about you but i feel zero remorse for causing a witch hunt on a player who legitimately has earned said witch hunt. Especially if mob justice is the only kind of justice we will ever see in league of legends. This of course would not be an issue if the systems in place for reporting... actually fucking worked. oh and btw, i got temporarily suspended from the forums for the above comment. Which is exactly why i fucking hate the riot community staff with a passion. They are more willing to punish me for attempting to get a player punished. Then they are to punish said player. One option punishing me, temporarily removes a small portion of the bitching on the forum, aka a bandaid solution. The other option, punishing the player who actually deserves to be punished, and is the source of the reason player A is bitching, is a long term solution, that also solves many players problems at the same time. One is easier than the other. They chose the easy way out. Hence they dont deserve my respect, because they havnt earned it.
SEKAI (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Percival9,realm=OCE,application-id=Ntey9fRZ,discussion-id=u6jv82N6,comment-id=000000010001,timestamp=2017-05-27T21:23:50.288+0000) > > I'm pretty sure I've seen somewhere that Tyler1 has been allowed to play again. I'm pretty sure he's just making new accounts to play, then it gets banned for no reason due to his indefinite ban, and he creates new accounts again. > There was like a whole thing about it the other week. Besides, that's an exceptional case. Just like how Nicki Taylor is only low Gold, and yet is a very popular Streamer. > > Besides, Tyler1 obviously has a lot of influence, since people are still talking about "#FreeTyler1". > > Also, what about the super toxic Bronze players that are even worse than him? They're not getting banned. Tyler1 got banned because he was Challenger + Streamer, and hence had a lot of influence over the community. That makes no sense to your initially pitch, as that implies that Riot doesn't care about low elo players. And here they are, banning a Challenger player as a symbol of "we will not tolerate toxicity no matter who you are", but that's apparently just because he's popular. You also do realise "I got falsely banned" is also a thing right (I mean we have one of those threads created just a couple hours before this one, it's far more noticeable if you frequent NA board)? So which is it, does Riot ban people accordingly or that they don't? You can't just go setting the goalpost to wherever you want it to be, you know.
Actually that perfectly fits his pitch. riot doesnt care about low elo players, in turn doesnt help that elo improve by banning said toxic players. Riot cares about challenger players, so removed a particularly toxic challenger player from the game to improve the QOL of the remaining challenger players. because ill make this very clear. The two players i am talking about in the op, name removed and name removed. Are not players. They are smurfs made purposefully to troll low elo and ONLY troll low elo. They do not play rotating game modes, they do not play norms. They just queue ranked games at late night oce to troll lower elo players, they prey at late night because they are more likely to get the same victim more than once due to the smaller playerbase. Those two are sadistic fucking trolls who get their kicks off of angering and downright ruining the games of people that are lower ranks than them. AND RIOT DOES NOTHING. Want more proof that riot does nothing? check this comment in a couple of hours. One of their staff will have removed the names from this post or even delete it. But they wont be banned.
: Harassment from another player
Notice all how rather than punish the player in question riot simply redacts the name from the text. Not only denying this harassed player his justice. But denying the community the chance to defend themselves. And you wonder why league of legends is a breeding ground for toxicity.
: I GOT BANNED FROM THIS?
meanwhile i know of two fucksticks who riot refuses to ban and continue to protect from community backlash. [REMOVED] and [REMOVED]. Riot when you eventually read this to delete those two names, know this. Either im getting banned or [REMOVED] and [REMOVED] are getting banned. Because im not going to stop until you do something about it. Choose wisely, i have no qualms with spamming your boards with an infinite amount of fresh accounts informing the playerbase of your stance when it comes to trolls like these.
: I know, right... The only players they care about are high-level Challengers and popular Streamers/YouTubers, because they have influence.
: I mostly use mejais as a cheaper deathcap so i can hit 6 items faster. Once i lose stacks from my damage falling off i swap it out for a deathcap or another defensive item depending on my needs for that game because i usually have a few thousand gold banked up at that point. Ignite i use for my laning phase, i almost always do a level 2 all in where i ding 2 take my q wait for my opposing laner to walk just a little bit forward so he walks into my q as its casting then immediately spam e on them down the lane. Ignite usually picks them off when they run under tower giving me a quick and easy 400g at the 4-5 minute mark. This is also why my early game lane phase generally consists of me last hitting with e from under tower so i have the maximum amount of room to chase people down before they hit their tower, once i can 2-3 hit people is when i start moving the lane forward so i can kill the laner, crash it into their tower, then do a sneaky roam bot or something like that. As for the visage im mostly taking that for the tanky stats, healing increase which works on both catalyst and empowered e to end up around 100 or so health per cast or a couple hundred health per second, and the cdr. Against ad comps though i tend to not take it, have been tossing up what to fill in that slot with against ad comps because i personally dislike zhonyas, i understand its value but i tend to find that all zhonyas does is gives the team thats already wailing on my ass an easier time repositioning to kill me faster when i come out of it, it works better in higher elo's where you can rely somewhat on your team coming to your assistance, or on say kat where you continue doing damage from inside the zhonyas. tbh hell with the amount of health im getting in this build i could swap visage for a zz'rot against ad comps and improve lane pressure that way. I will agree on the runes, thats just a generic page i put together for champions that benefit from mpen and cdr, so i can buy one less cdr item. Keep in mind i was playing the "recommended" build when i first started playing her, randomly built the visage when i had to go against a vlad top one time thinking "hey it gives mr and cdr what could go wrong" then i remembered catalyst had mana to health conversion and next minute im 28/0, so this build is fully a work in progress thing that ive developed over trial and error trying different items and comparing results. But yeah im "kind of" a one trick. I have a few champions i can play just as well as cass, including shaco, kalista, katarina, akali, veigar, some would argue not but singed (i can triple proxy), ezreal but the reason i perform so well on all those champs is because each and everyone of them i one tricked at some point in time.
just tried substituting mejais for zz'rot, damage was still fine, but i could tank so much more damage so my overall damage output went up, along with my split pushing power going through the roof.
Husy15 (OCE)
: So i've read most of what has been said, i didn't read every last word, but i know what point you're trying to make. I would like you to attempt to heed my advice and constructive criticism, and not ignore the entire post because you've heard parts of it. League of legends, and ranked, is based upon a simple construct, 1 team HAS to lose. Always remember this, This also means lanes lose, regardless of what you want to do. Morale and determination play a BIG part in strategy games and games like league, especially in the lower Elo's, when everyone says "dont flame" they mean it, if you literally stop flaming, you'll see yourself winning more games. i don't care how many times you've been told this, its better to just shut up. Do not give advice during league games, you should understand this the most, why? Because everyone here is trying their best to help you and let you understand what you're doing wrong, and instead you're attacking them like they're imbeciles. Giving advice to low-elo players, demoralises them, makes them think you're flaming, and bam, you have someone afk or inting. 1 person does not win a game. otherwise you would not still be bronze 5. Every time you flame, and make someone give up, you lose the game. Why? because you can't 1v5, stop trying, let other people win. Don't take all the kills, YES, real advice right now, Right here, Do not take all the kills, 1 person with 50 kills, is not the same as a team with 50 kills, you get Cc'd in a fight, your team with 0 kills losses the game.. allow yourself to be ks'd/give kills away, trust me you'll win more often. it also boosts self-confidence and morale of your team. (DO NOT TAKE THIS ADVICE LIGHTLY, If you ignore me entirely, i couldn't give a shit, but if you ignore this advice, and say im not trying to help, then you aren't trying to get better) Realize that, yes, you will lose games, yes, people on your team will lose lanes, and yes you will lose lanes. Also realize 1 last thing. Everyone is auto-filled. Everyone. If you give up, during ur auto-fill games, because "it's just autofill, who cares" you're making your team lose. Think of your own experience, where the supports have been stupid and not cared, or when the junglers do whatever they want. there is a legitimate reason to try when you are supporting. i don't care how much you hate it, just suck it up, it will make you win more games. tl;dr: doesn't matter how many times you've heard it, fix your attitude, morale is a real thing that exists, deal with it. p.s. if you respond to this with any bit of aggression, like you have with the rest of the posts, i will not reply, i will not even bother ever opening this thread again, however, if you decide to respond normally, with some dignity, i will give you more tips on how you can win games and get out of elo-hell.
Tbh i do give kills away most of the time, its why i tend to have double digit assists. But there are also plenty of times where i have to take the kill either because it is a solo 1v2 in mid lane or something, or they are about to get away so i throw one more cheeky ability to secure it. I also understand the flaming thing, trust me i do, but i act irrationally when im angry, if i could disable chat alltogether i would, i already play better when i ping mute and chat mute everyone so i dont have to read their bullshit tactical decisions, but that doesnt stop me typing in chat that the fact they are doing baron when the enemy "fed to the tits carry" is still alive is suicide. And i know im blaming it on my anger, but i get away with this personality irl by simply not getting angry, the very very few times i do get angry all logic goes out the window and i lose my cool calculating mentality and go straight to rage mode. League teams just have more things that tick me off than anything else in the world so i have more outbursts playing league. Basically i have anger issues, but its an anger issue that only certain competitive video games can trigger, and thus going and seeking help for it is damn near useless as a therapist is just going to say "well stop playing that game" You are also correct that i cant 1v5, this is why i get so bloody angry when my team feeds, because they just dont care that they making the game damn near impossible to win, do they not have any competitive sense what so ever? do they not enjoy winning through the process of overcoming a stronger opponent. I mean hell i know why half of bronze feeds, i could teach a master class that goes for 5 minutes that would solve feeding altogether for the majority of bronze players. itd just be a flow chart that says. Did you die yes but i can i can still beat him but did you die yes... then play safer mate but i cant play safer yes you can just last hit your lane to freeze it infront of your tower class dismissed no? then keep playing how you were
Rioter Comments
Ninox (OCE)
: So you're being carried is what you are saying? Your winrate goes up when you play with better people, and goes down when playing with worse? And even when your winrate is high you still can't climb on your own? That says to me you're being carried. If you can't climb even when wins are handed to you by higher than average teammates, then how can you expect to climb when you are playing with people or around your skill level? The answer is you can't, and won't. A D5 with a 51% winrate can be D3 in a day or two? Ofc they can that's how win's work they just have to win those few games, but if they aren't consistent, if they aren't actually D3 level of skill then that's going to show very quickly, they will start losing again and will get demoted back. That's the whole point of the ranked system. Climbing isn't about getting to x rank once and then saying you belong there. You prove you belong in that rank by staying there, and so far the only rank you have proved that in is the one you are currently in with *700 games played*. When I was in Bronze I DID deserve it. I was Bronze skill. The only reason I still got placed in Bronze was because I hadn't played ranked pretty much at all in Season 4, and the increase in my skill between late S3 when I started playing and S5 when I actually gave ranked a proper go was astronomical. When I played ranked in season 4 even I doubt I was a solid silver player, maybe just barely cause it was early season. I was in Bronze because I belonged there, and when I no longer did, I climbed out in a couple of days, and I'm a goddamned support main, the role that the vast majority of the community agree is hardest to climb with since you are so reliant on your team. Maybe you do belong higher when you are playing at your best, but you are very much the kind of person to tilt at the smallest thing. If you are perpetually tilted then your accurate rank is whatever your skill level is when you are tilted, and the skill you have when you are playing at your best is irrelevant because the one game you play at your best to the 10 you play when tilted is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. If your tilt is costing you so much and it bothers you this much then why are you playing when you are tilted? It's like running headfirst into a brick wall, when there is a sledgehammer just over there, but getting the sledgehammer would mean not trying to break that wall for a whole 5 minutes so you decide instead to just keep bashing your head against it in the hopes you can break it anyway. Not to mention you built this wall brick by brick, each brick being a game you threw cause you were trolling, or destroyed your team because you flamed them, or played when you were tilted and made dumb mistakes left, right and centre, or blamed your team for collective or personal mistakes or arbitrary things that really have no real impact. And sure a couple of those bricks are contributed by the afk or the feeder, but a brick here and there a wall does not make. So you could choose to take the time and dismantle the wall, take off the tilt bricks, take off the flame bricks, take off the troll bricks and then just step over the damn thing. Or you could take a break, play some normals and improve your play and your attitude and take the sledgehammer to the wall. Or I suppose you could just sit there and keep beating your head against it with little to no success. Ultimately, that's your choice to make.
"so youre being carried" ha... ha..... hahahahaha. Do you even math? Ok at 80% winrate, what are the chances, the statistical chances. That for 80 of those 100 games. I got atleast one person good enough to carry me along with the other 3 players on the team. Hmmm? Because how low your iq must be, if you think i got carried. Btw the chances of that happening, are so insanely low if your iq were those chances, youd be dead. Also you ask why i play when im tilted? i dont have a fucking choice, first of the game, already tilted. its either play tilted, or dont play at all. Or cross my fingers and pray to god that for once my team isnt absolute monkeys, because then im in a good enough mood to carry the next 2-3 games, even if i got carried that one game, it puts me in a good enough mood to carry the next 2-3 myself. Or that for once the enemy team is good enough to actually challenge me, because im not even kidding when i said this, i have met maybe 4 people who can actually beat me, the rest of them "beat me" by getting their ass kicked and then bringing all their friends with them the next time they fight. Irl we would call that being a coward who doesnt know how to fight. In league we call that "teamwork" I call that using your team as a crutch to hold you up, which weakens your team hence why 9/10 when they send their entire team mid to deal with me, they lose, because for every fight they need their team to beat me in, their other lanes get pushed a little bit more. Its fine to use teamwork to bolster your skills. its not fine to use teamwork to give you skills in the first place, because while you can fake it till you make it early game that way, you will bring your team down in mid to late by being the weak link. And all that facing an opponent that resorts to such tactics does to me, is make me annoyed because my sense of competition is now destroyed, and thats all i play ranked for.
Ninox (OCE)
: So you're being carried is what you are saying? Your winrate goes up when you play with better people, and goes down when playing with worse? And even when your winrate is high you still can't climb on your own? That says to me you're being carried. If you can't climb even when wins are handed to you by higher than average teammates, then how can you expect to climb when you are playing with people or around your skill level? The answer is you can't, and won't. A D5 with a 51% winrate can be D3 in a day or two? Ofc they can that's how win's work they just have to win those few games, but if they aren't consistent, if they aren't actually D3 level of skill then that's going to show very quickly, they will start losing again and will get demoted back. That's the whole point of the ranked system. Climbing isn't about getting to x rank once and then saying you belong there. You prove you belong in that rank by staying there, and so far the only rank you have proved that in is the one you are currently in with *700 games played*. When I was in Bronze I DID deserve it. I was Bronze skill. The only reason I still got placed in Bronze was because I hadn't played ranked pretty much at all in Season 4, and the increase in my skill between late S3 when I started playing and S5 when I actually gave ranked a proper go was astronomical. When I played ranked in season 4 even I doubt I was a solid silver player, maybe just barely cause it was early season. I was in Bronze because I belonged there, and when I no longer did, I climbed out in a couple of days, and I'm a goddamned support main, the role that the vast majority of the community agree is hardest to climb with since you are so reliant on your team. Maybe you do belong higher when you are playing at your best, but you are very much the kind of person to tilt at the smallest thing. If you are perpetually tilted then your accurate rank is whatever your skill level is when you are tilted, and the skill you have when you are playing at your best is irrelevant because the one game you play at your best to the 10 you play when tilted is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. If your tilt is costing you so much and it bothers you this much then why are you playing when you are tilted? It's like running headfirst into a brick wall, when there is a sledgehammer just over there, but getting the sledgehammer would mean not trying to break that wall for a whole 5 minutes so you decide instead to just keep bashing your head against it in the hopes you can break it anyway. Not to mention you built this wall brick by brick, each brick being a game you threw cause you were trolling, or destroyed your team because you flamed them, or played when you were tilted and made dumb mistakes left, right and centre, or blamed your team for collective or personal mistakes or arbitrary things that really have no real impact. And sure a couple of those bricks are contributed by the afk or the feeder, but a brick here and there a wall does not make. So you could choose to take the time and dismantle the wall, take off the tilt bricks, take off the flame bricks, take off the troll bricks and then just step over the damn thing. Or you could take a break, play some normals and improve your play and your attitude and take the sledgehammer to the wall. Or I suppose you could just sit there and keep beating your head against it with little to no success. Ultimately, that's your choice to make.
"so youre being carried" ha... ha..... hahahahaha. Do you even math? Ok at 80% winrate, what are the chances, the statistical chances. That for 80 of those 100 games. I got atleast one person good enough to carry me along with the other 3 players on the team. Hmmm? Because thats how low your iq must be, if you think i got carried. Btw the chances of that happening, are so insanely low if your iq were those chances, youd be dead.
: If you feel that way then duo queue with someone you know plays good (most of the time at least). I did it when I was b4 and it helped me get to B2 where I climbed by myself. Also like I said previously, maybe you should start to onetrick a champion entirely. It is just so easy to climb because you know exactly what to do against all of your opponents and you know how to transition your lead better if you play just a handful or one champion. I would not advise someone in Bronze playing Cassiopeia, but you seem to find her the most enjoyable and do rather decent with her. I would advise you to build a bit better. *Mejais is simply a bad item. It is meant for shield champions that need large amounts of ap to make their shields bigger (ivern, janna). It is just flat AP and nothing else, it is not worth getting, ever. Dark seal could be a good early game item but you shouldn't upgrade it. Buy a deathcap instead. It suits her far better and gives you more AP than what Mejais does with it's unique passive(and that AP doesn't get removed if you die,unlike mejais) *I would remove the Spirit visage for either a Banshees or a Zhonyas. Spirit visage is an okay item but the options are still better. Banshees gives you both offense & defense and same with Zhonyas. All Visage gives you, is defense. Besides, you seem to build ROA & Rylais, you have enough health anyway. Trust me, if you do that, you'll notice that your DPS will be far better and it'll be worth. And please stop trolling on some of your games. Just don't. You're lucky you're not banned at this point. If you dont feel like going to a game just dodge. Better to lose 3 lp than 18+. Edit; forgot mentioning; You need better runes and summoner spells. Cass is not that great with ignite, it's only laning phase. It's better for you to take something more defensive like ghost, barrier, exhaust (depending on matchup) instead of ignite. Poke champs usually dont take ignite anyway.
I mostly use mejais as a cheaper deathcap so i can hit 6 items faster. Once i lose stacks from my damage falling off i swap it out for a deathcap or another defensive item depending on my needs for that game because i usually have a few thousand gold banked up at that point. Ignite i use for my laning phase, i almost always do a level 2 all in where i ding 2 take my q wait for my opposing laner to walk just a little bit forward so he walks into my q as its casting then immediately spam e on them down the lane. Ignite usually picks them off when they run under tower giving me a quick and easy 400g at the 4-5 minute mark. This is also why my early game lane phase generally consists of me last hitting with e from under tower so i have the maximum amount of room to chase people down before they hit their tower, once i can 2-3 hit people is when i start moving the lane forward so i can kill the laner, crash it into their tower, then do a sneaky roam bot or something like that. As for the visage im mostly taking that for the tanky stats, healing increase which works on both catalyst and empowered e to end up around 100 or so health per cast or a couple hundred health per second, and the cdr. Against ad comps though i tend to not take it, have been tossing up what to fill in that slot with against ad comps because i personally dislike zhonyas, i understand its value but i tend to find that all zhonyas does is gives the team thats already wailing on my ass an easier time repositioning to kill me faster when i come out of it, it works better in higher elo's where you can rely somewhat on your team coming to your assistance, or on say kat where you continue doing damage from inside the zhonyas. tbh hell with the amount of health im getting in this build i could swap visage for a zz'rot against ad comps and improve lane pressure that way. I will agree on the runes, thats just a generic page i put together for champions that benefit from mpen and cdr, so i can buy one less cdr item. Keep in mind i was playing the "recommended" build when i first started playing her, randomly built the visage when i had to go against a vlad top one time thinking "hey it gives mr and cdr what could go wrong" then i remembered catalyst had mana to health conversion and next minute im 28/0, so this build is fully a work in progress thing that ive developed over trial and error trying different items and comparing results. But yeah im "kind of" a one trick. I have a few champions i can play just as well as cass, including shaco, kalista, katarina, akali, veigar, some would argue not but singed (i can triple proxy), ezreal but the reason i perform so well on all those champs is because each and everyone of them i one tricked at some point in time.
: Maybe you should take a break from league then and cool your head?
been there done that, first few games i look i stomp so hard i end up with 15 new friend requests and a very high chance of the enemy team trying to ban me out the next game. Then someone does something stupid and its like i never left, right back to 360 degrees of tilt. See this isnt a league thing, i just really really hate stupid people. The problem is in real life i can avoid them, by just you know, not having anything to do with them. in league im forced to deal with them because matchmaking.
Ninox (OCE)
: If the problem is your mmr is trashed then perhaps you should consider why that is the case? Your mmr is trash because of the way you are winning and losing. It doesn't matter if you have an 80% winrate in the last three months of the season, if you spent the rest of the season playing game after game of trash. The more games you play at a given level of play without improving, the more you convince the system that that is where you belong, and you have played A LOT of games telling the system you are where you should be. Having an 80% winrate is irrelevant if it isn't consistent. If you swing from an 80% winrate back to a 40% one then you probably just had a solid winstreak early in the season. The larger the sample size the more accurate the reading, so the more games you play the closer you are getting to your true winrate (you know like the whole flip a coin 6 times vs flip a coin 100 times point made in that other thread). So frankly, "I had an 80% winrate at one point" don't mean jack shit when after almost **700** games of ranked your winrate is sitting at a solid 49% aka "you belong here"%. I was in Bronze S3 and S4. In S5 I was placed there. I was never hard stuck. In S3 i tried, but my skill was Bronze so I stayed in Bronze funnily enough. In S4 I played my placements, got placed even lower in Bronze because of my previous season mmr, played a few games and decided I didn't want to improve enough to bother with ranked. S5 was when I really tried, and funnily enough over two years of playing I'd improved a lot just by playing normals. By experiencing the game rather than convincing myself that any loss ever was my teammates fault and that I was some perfect human being that didn't make significant mistakes. I was out of B3 and into S5 in *under 20 games*. I trashed my mmr from previous seasons, dragged it down far lower than my real skill, but when I actually bothered to get my shit together and play it properly it wasn't a hindrance. That's the whole point of slowing mmr gains when you have a high winrate, it's to stop you from climbing out on luck alone, because if you truly deserve higher the winrate will stay fairly consistent and the LP gap won't mean anything significant. But I guess that success story isn't really dramatic enough to make an impression on you is it. Like I said to your other post. Improve your attitude, then maybe you'll have a chance at improving your rank.
No it isnt, because like i said, the only people who arent bronze were either hardstuck or were never bronze in the first place. You admitted yourself that when you were bronze you were lower than you were meant to be. Another thing you didnt quite understand is this little fact. 100 games played 80% winrate, at an elo 4 tiers above my current elo mmr wise. versus 49% winrate at my current elo. if you didnt notice it that time ill spell it out for you. lower elo lower winrate. This is evident in my last 20 games winrates too. lower in elo i go, the lower that winrate gets. The higher in elo i get, the higher that winrate gets. That trend does not support your argument at all. that trend straight up shows one thing and one thing only. That i play better in higher elos. The higher i go in elo, the better i perform. So now we have to figure out why that is, because thats not wild speculation thats fact. my theory is its because the worse the players around me are the more tilted i get, notice i said around me, not my team, im including enemy team in that, it disgusts me when i see players worse than bronze level play. Whats your theory on why my winrate behaves that way, id love to hear it. Because as soon as we figure out why my performance goes down when my elo goes down we figure out how to get me out of bronze. And i am deadset about that, i have played every playstyle i can think of, hyper farming split pushing where i push damn near 500 cs a game and take heaps of turrets, winrate didnt go up. I can very easily just dominate my lane then roam to every single lane on the map destroying everyone with hyper aggressive play. winrate doesnt go up. i can do a hybrid of the two. still winrate doesnt go up. Win 20 games in a row and go up a tier without changing my playstyle whatsoever, and oh hey, my winrate goes up and stays around that level until my next losing streak. lose 20 games in a row and go down a tier without changing my playstyle whatsoever and oh hey my winrate goes down, and stays around that level until my next win streak. Another thing going back to the 80% winrate thing, you completely missed my point with my original statement of that. 100 games of 80% winrate means i won 8 out of every 10 games. so why wasnt i climbing. Why when im winning 8 games then losing 2, did i not even get past 10lp b1. even if my mmr was so bad that i was only getting 10lp a win, thats still 800 lp not counting promos games, which is where the problem lies. most of those losses were infact promos games, i would go into those promos super pumped to win to get out of this fresh hell, then immediately shot down by my team, then would go into the second game tilted as fuck and lose the whole series, it was to the point i literally did my promos 3-4 times a day, A DAY, and thats how i ended up here, a few months of that bullshit is all it took to break me mentally and cause me to go on a 40 games losing streak. I havnt recovered since because i am in a neverending tilt spiral where i queue up a game, try to forget what elo im in, spend about a minute in game, and someone somewhere does something stupid enough to tilt me. meanwhile if someone is diamond 5 and has a 51% winrate they will be diamond 3 in like a day or two.
: Well then all you need to do is get that **100% win rate**! You just gotta believe in yourself and you can do it! {{champion:20}} {{champion:266}} {{champion:27}}
Honestly fuck off mate, everyone knows about your bullshit.
Ninox (OCE)
: It's a skill like any other. If you're not willing to improve your attitude then you aren't going to improve your rank. But clearly the successes of others don't mean much to you.
i only see two types of successes among others. those that grinded their way out of bronze after being hardstuck and immediately shot straight through silver into gold and plat. And those that were never bronze in the first place, and shouldnt even be used as examples. Everyone else is still bronze, even if they are silver, since they cant be demoted back to bronze. i would of course like to remind you that i did have an 80% winrate at one point, over a hundred games played, if i was any elo aside from bronze thatd mean i wouldve gone up ATLEAST a division, if not multiple tiers. i didnt climb even with an 80% winrate despite all odds. It is really not as simple as saying "look at all these people who did it" because everyone has different experiences with their ranked climb. its not a one size fits all system personally in my own climb, i know for a fact i am looking at a solid 5-600 games just to get out of bronze, ontop of what ive already played. Simply because when i had over 100 with an 80% winrate i barely got out of b2, and was getting 10 lp a win. my mmr is trashed to the point of absolute no return. no amount of player improvement is going to fix that aside from achieving a 100% winrate.
: "If you aren't 1v9ing, you are throwing with a delayed fuse" Not exactly. I didn't carry as hard in my last three games as I usually do, but that's because I've been working on other stuff. I've been ganking a lot, and as a result, even if my laners didn't get ahead, the enemy was so tilted it didn't matter. I also counter-jungled hard, making their jungler useless, and causing their team to flame them in All Chat. And then, of course, I focused a lot more on objectives than kills. So basically I've been winning games, not as a 1v9 carry like I usually am, but by applying pressure in the right places and focusing objectives.
you just described a 1v9. You won your laners lanes for them with your ganks. You split pushed for your top laner because he wasnt doing it or wasnt capable of doing it. You counter jungled to shut down their own jungler. basically you 1v9 carried that team.
Ninox (OCE)
: It's almost like playing smart can have a positive impact on your teams gameplay. Keep it up good person!
Just as playing badly can have a negative impact on your teams gameplay. Oh wait, you just confirmed that thing i keep complaining about, that shitty players negatively affects my own gameplay. Check and mate.
Mozzie25 (OCE)
: That is not how statistics work and as someone who works with statistics and big data it actually hurts to see someone misuse/misinterpret them so bad. The whole point of having large sample sizes is to take out the element of chance. Small sample sizes can be effected by luck or selection bias. Example: If you flip a coin 5 times you might get heads 4 times and tales once. Leading to the statistics of, percentage of likelihood of: Head = 80% Tails = 20% Now if you expand the sample size to 100 the number will normalize closer to 50/50. Even assuming you end up with more of 1, say 60 heads and 40 tails you'll end up with a percentage of likelihood of: Heads= 60% Tails= 40% That's why studies use large sample sizes to take chance out of the equation. Hes right, **IF** your not a feeder then it is statistically more likely for their to be a feeder on the other team. Since you only have 4 spots for a feeder while they have 5. It is entirely possible for you to get feeders/inters 10 games in a row but it is unlikely. I would even say its nigh impossible to get 10 games in a row with feeders JUST on your team. Most likely dude to perception bias you simply remember the feeders on your team while forgetting the feeders on theirs. Using your "statistics" up there and ignoring matchmaking. The chances a feeder while be on your team vs on there team are (Note: I am way simplifying this because I don't have the time or the inclination to build you a full on probability model): Since theirs a 3% of a feeder ending up any any of those spots theirs a 12% chance overall of you getting a feeder (3x4). Where as they have a 15% chance of getting a feeder (3x5). So yes there is a better chance of them getting a feeder than you. Edit: Also I hate the fact you made me that guy on the boards that corrects peoples math.
just as a correction its not 15% its 5 separate instances of 3% chance. Think of it as a coin toss, each individual player on the enemy team has a 3% chance of landing heads, and a 97% chance of landing tails, they all flip at once and if any of them have landed heads they are a feeder. The total result is never 15% as the individual chances were never added together. Like if i kill something in a game that has a 1% chance to drop an item 100 times that is not a 100% chance to drop, same thing here.
Mozzie25 (OCE)
: But it does, that's the entire point of large data pool statistics. By looking at large samples you can take notice of trends. Because the great games will cancel out the poor ones. Then you should have stuff you can work on. Warding is a great example. Sometimes I have a great game in that aspect, sometimes I don't. After a good number of games I can look at the overall number and say either that's good or that's bad. Whether it's good or bad I will still have games that wall on either side. But the overall trend will fall on one side or the other. Either way you know how I feel. Think about it and maybe next time don't be so aggressive to those trying to other advice. If they tell you something ask what you can do to improve that thing. I'm off to get drunk and play video games with some friends
Large data pool statistics are great. When only one variable affects your data. When multiple different variables affect your data all you find out is that something is affecting your data. you still havnt figured out what specifically is affecting it. Lets use my cs example again, when you scale it from one game to lets say 100 games and my cs is still shit. you have learned nothing from that, all you have learned is that my cs on average is shit. You still havnt learned WHY its shit, be it bad mechanics leading to being zoned in every lane, inability to last hit, actively avoiding cs to abuse an items mechanic (in my case with coin) the list goes on. And to tell someone how to fix something first you must know what they are doing wrong. Your warding example on the other hand is actually doable, you are the only variable in that case.... until you bring ward placement into the equation and suddenly you are back to square one. sure you warded more in X game but you warded in shit places, meanwhile in Y game you warded more efficiently but warded less But because the only value you are looking for is a higher ward count X game while bad improves your score and Y game while good reduces your score.
Mozzie25 (OCE)
: Except I would not be looking at individual games. I would be looking at overall stats. That way individual performances don't matter. For example: I die too much. I know it, I am working on it. Sure sometimes it's cause someone on my team feeds. But other times it's cause I get greedy and dive too far. Or just misplay, or spend to long overextended. There's plenty of reasons but by knowing I die too much I can start working on cutting that number down. Whether it's by not diving as much, not overextending or not staying on low health. Treat these things like a start point. Sure the reason might change and sometimes it's not your fault. But plenty of times it is and that's were you should aim to improve.
again overall stats dont take into considering champion choices and matchups. Game lengths. team compositions etc etc etc. Hell even winrate is a bad way to measure skill and its the most accurate thing we have atm aside from actively watching gameplay to figure out if they are good. For instance lets use my champion tab on op.gg my average cs per game with kalista is 185 cs. my average cs per game with cass is 125. A normal person would assume that means i cs worse with cass than kalista. But quite frankly its the opposite. my early game cs with kalista is about on par with cass, with cass pulling ahead at times. My average cs goes down as game length goes on as with kalista i play a more split push orientated playstyle hence why she has the higher average cs. and with cass i play a more pick maker playstyle hence why she has the higher average kda and damage done. two very different play styles, two very different amounts of cs. Both of which you had no context of prior to me telling you, but you would have context of by watching my gameplays. My end point, is to remind you that to be constructive with your criticism you must first know all the facts, if you dont know all the facts then you are making wild assumptions and relegating your criticism to just plain standard criticism, with the potential of it being constructive assuming your assumptions were correct. keyword on potential not always. This is why i react negatively to people assuming how i play based on my endgame stats, because most of the time they are just dead wrong, and its annoying having to deal with them because theres one in everyone of my threads. i think maybe one person has ever guessed right, and even then i patched that up real quick and fixed my gameplay in that one aspect they guessed right.
Mozzie25 (OCE)
: Basic things yes. If you want a coach go pay for one. Maybe there's a specific reason for why they're happening but its a starting point. There's basic things I know I'm doing wrong and I am working towards fixing them. Which in turns makes me better at league. And don't tell me it's because of your league. My best friend climbed from b5 to b2. Lost a promo on the last day of the season for B1. So it's definitely doable. Way I see it you have two choices. Have a respectful conversation with the people on the boards. Which will give you a general starting point. Then you can go watch your replays and look into it. Maybe get a coach if your super invested in climbing. Or you can keep blowing everyone off, get no help and go no where.
No not even basic things. Say for instance my cs is shit, youd immediately assume i cant last hit. When in reality that game you just assumed i cant last hit i was being zoned under my tower while the opposing laner froze their lane thus forcing me to not cs to stay alive, then during the time period where i could farm i was frantically running around trying to help my team with what little items i have. Thats just an example of course that doesnt actually happen in bronze because people dont know how to freeze. But say that did happen your analysis of that game would instantly be proven wrong by simply watching the gameplay instead of reading the end screen. This goes for any and all stats you can find on the end screen. Now how would your analysis change once actually watching the game? You would inform me that farming during mid game while on your path to where you are helping your team would have made up for some of your missing early game cs and strengthened your teams teamfights. Granted i already know that hence why im able to state that here but like i said, examples. As for your "dont tell me its your elo" comment, at the start of this season i was b5, i climbed to b1 with an 80% winrate, then slowly tilted my way back down here. its not directly my elo but it is still my elo, they dont feed every game, but the games where i play poorly 9 times out of 10 are because i was tilted either by a player in that game or a player in games prior. be it the enemy team or my team if someone is playing bad in a game im in i get tilted, enemy bad players deny me the competitive challenge i play league for, and bad players on my team deny me the ability to climb for the next 3 games (2 wins to a loss to maintain elo/make a slow climb)
Mozzie25 (OCE)
: Really cause I'm bronze and by looking at your op.oce.gg i can see some things you can improve on. But you keep going the way your going. Youll either end up banned or in b5 for life
can you really see things i can improve on? or can you see end results with no knowledge of how i came to achieve said end results, thus no knowledge of what aspect i should improve on to improve those results. if it was as simple as looking at an op.gg match history to figure out what a player is doing wrong coaching would be much cheaper. Also fyi, that aatrox i flamed earlier, i just vs'd him, he lost, he did the exact same thing and i abused that mistake to get fed off him. In this elo i am the one giving advice to people, not the other way around. Ill gladly take advice from people who actively make an effort to watch one of my games so they get a real understanding of how i play, instead of numbers on an end screen that mean nothing without context. For a real world example, think of my end game screen as my KPI performance measurement at work. If im getting under 100% my boss doesnt immediately assume "oh hes slacking off" or "oh hes shit at this job" he walks up, observes me working, finds where i can improve specifically via said observation, then boom 100%+ kpi. You can follow that same train of thought with your little backseat gaming thing. instead of seeing a bad score and immediately assuming "bad player" open up a replay of that game, and watch it from start to finish. Watch the events unfold, the mistakes made, the good decisions made, the skills not used etc. Then and ONLY then are you qualified to comment on that players performance. Any other situation is just you pointing out the obvious that everyone including the player themselves can see.
Mozzie25 (OCE)
: 1. If your not going to respond well to people trying to help you whats the point asking for help. 2. I could give you constructive criticism. But judging how you treated everyone elses, why would I bother?
1. they arent trying to help me they are just copy and pasting the same thing everyone says to bronze players because they made assumptions about how i play. 2. see 1
Mozzie25 (OCE)
: Uhuh. Two things 1. Flaming me is not going help anything 2. Learn to take criticism. If you can't your not going to get anywhere in life. It doesn't matter why your flaming. The minute you start it negatively impacts everyone's performances
1. im sorry that you poked an agitated bee hive and got stung, maybe dont poke the bee hive next time. 2. Criticism =/= constructive criticism. Please crawl back into your fucking cave where you belong, or under your bridge or whatever.
Mozzie25 (OCE)
: Maybe you should actually listen to the people trying to help you instead of just going "I've heard all this before the problem is my team mates because I'm a god". If your not gonna work on your downsides your not gonna get anywhere. Also have you ever stopped to think about how your attitude affects your team mates? Maybe they'd play better if your salty ass would stop flaming them.
Ok retard. lets get one thing straight. The reason i am fed up with hearing this shit over and fucking over and fucking over. IS BECAUSE I ALREADY FUCKING DO IT. Spectate one game with me in it, youl shut up about that shit very fucking quickly. And no they wont play better take my last game, see that 6/11 aatrox that turned their kled into a raid boss. heres the progression of my conversation with him. "Dude just last hit instead of pushing and you will stop dying" he back talks me "No seriously thats the only thing you are doing wrong and you are behind you cant fight him so stop pushing" back talks again. " ok im going to tell you why you shouldnt push, you are 1/5, you have died the last 5 times you tried to push, the chances that you miraculously dont die the sixth time are slim to none, so stop pushing" back talks again. and THEN i start flaming. This is the kind of shit you backseat gamers need to know before you can even comment on this kind of shit, unless you are willing to learn the details of how my games progress so you can base your opinions on facts instead of assumptions, i really dont want to fucking hear it.
: ''the only reason my winrate scales linearly with elo upwards is because the higher in elo i go the less stupid the players are, the less stupid everyone is the more effort i put in to winning and the less tilted i am.'' Assuming you've said that, that means the enemy team will be as stupid as your own teammates and thus you can carry. Trust me dude it will be mostly YOU who is the factor for winning or losing if you're as good as you're claiming to be. P2 is not high elo by any means but when I play on my friends acc (Silver 5) it is really easy to stomp on my laner and snowball so hard that we win than what it is in gold-plat-diamond elo. Of course, not every game will be carryable but if you have a good strategy and that strategy gives you a wr of over 50% then that means that strategy is working and the losses you'll have will be from the dreaded'' my teammates fed'' style of games. There is a youtuber named Brickyorchid8 that made a video called something like ''How I got to diamond'' it is rather entertaining but the important part is, is how he explains what kind of strategy is the BEST way to climb. I highly recommend you check it out, it helped me out tons.
That's the issue it doesn't matter which team has the stupid people on it it still tilts me, and tilted players play poorly. If it's my team I'm tilted because "well there goes my Elo" If its the enemy team it's "I can't believe riot thinks I belong in this elo the players are so bad" And if it's both teams it's "seriously I'm surrounded by idiots" Like the number of times I've sat there with 15+ kills while the enemy team says stuff like "feeding mid laner" and all I can reply with is "your mid laner feeding isn't why I had the mechanics to 1v3 you right there, in reality your mid laner Fed because I'm in the wrong Elo not because they are"
Jayhawk (OCE)
: So let me get this straight... You bitch about all of your games that your teammates don't play well in and how much of a hard-carry you are but then you put on your best Tyler1 impersonation and go 0/22/0 in other games or some bullshit like that, troll when you get auto-filled or pick random champs in random roles that have no real impact on the game (Looking at your AP Ashe and your love of the coin item wasting early gold on that) and wonder why people don't take you seriously? If you're curious as to why your MMR is completely fucked, just start there and you'll get a good idea. Here's a simple solution: if you have a shit day, maybe you shouldn't be playing this game if you know you play like shit when you aren't having a good day and then enjoy playing when you're having a good day instead. For example, you wrote in your "analysis" of game 8 that Ryze was mad because you flamed him in the game before that one. Feeding isn't acceptable, but it is easier to not tilt people when you don't flame them in the first place and then wonder why they get mad at you when you play with them again. Also, looking at your match history, I'm assuming the reason you buy the coin item is because your CPM is really low which I'm guessing is a side-effect of you not being strong at that particular aspect of the game. If you're killing your opponent that many times in lane, you should be averaging way more than ~3 cs per minute. Maybe focus on fixing that up because just running over someone in kills while they're still getting gold on you from racking up the same or, in same cases, more CS than you is going to get you destroyed in the long run. Don't get me wrong, there are some people that make this game incredibly hard to win, anyone will tell you that. But looking at your match history, there are streaks of games where you set yourself back through deliberately sabotaging yourself and your teammates when those could easily be wins pushing you up the ranks. If you're looking for an answer as to what you could've done in those games you lost, here's the TL:DR: For game 8, don't flame people and they probably won't int feed when you get them again in another game. For game 9 and 11, you'll get afks and people who play poorly, you'll have to accept that sometimes. Here's the bonus round: Don't troll when you get autofilled, don't int feed or afk games and don't do stuff like AP Ashe when you're tilted to help solve any other games you'll have and you should be good to go.
Ignoring the rest of it because ive heard it all before and only addressing the coin. my cpm is so low in those coin games because i am actively not taking cs in order to upgrade the passive as fast as possible. As the real reason i go nomads is to abuse the 30 gold per kill bonus with my high kpm to snowball uncontrollably. 30 gold doesnt sound like much but thats 10% more gold per kill. at 10 kills thats 1 whole extra kill in gold value. And i hit 10 kills as a bare minimum pretty much, so that item pays for itself very very quickly, ontop of giving my cdr at level 1 for harass and some life regen, from there i only really cs when im pushing a wave in since im always traveling to another lane to kill someone, like nonstop pick making until the enemy team wisens up that i am quite literally roaming around the map stomping them. compare this to say when i would play something retarded like kalista top and average around 9cs per minute.
Chris2fur (OCE)
: Context to my comment here.I am currently in que playing soloq at 4 in the morning on my smurf that is Diamond 5, main account this one Challenger. Looking at your op.gg you have really nice stats for Annie and your Vi both champions do well in low elo that is to say all way up to plat about. Everything else you play is garbage and your overall level does seem to be bronze. Your name also screams bronze. If you want to play this game to improve and not just here to have fun. Then take it seriously alright. Focus on yourself and what you could do better always. You will be making so many mistakes in your own games every single game that complaining about others makes no sense. On the point of fairness, everyone deals with AFK's, trolls, DC's etc. You are not special. Everyone is effected by it. It is the way you choose to deal with it that separates your from others. Coming onto the forums and making a whiny post is not one of those. You want to improve? Take it seriously, new name, follow the meta champions, i.e. copy what the pro players do, and always reflect on what you could have done better.
just out of curiosity, what would you deem my best champions as a challenger player. probably wont affect much since i play what i enjoy and focus on getting better at that instead of just playing an easy champ that bores me, but im curious to see if it lines up with my expectations. Be weary though pretty much everygame i played today has been tilted, hence the soraka crit banana top game.
: Why Does Riot Reward Trolls?
Because they honestly believe they are doing more than they actually do.
Rioter Comments
: I'm no pro so take this with a grain of salt... it sounds like you're staying in laning phase too long and are not spreading your lead across other lanes. Therefore you allow the other team to group up, take you down, which then leads you to lose what lead you had over time, and potentially making you tilt and lose the game. I highly recommend checking out these videos. They teach you how to take your lead and spread it to other lanes, leading to a win. - [Leaguecraft 101 Episode 6 How To Roam](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bp932bJRXA&list=PL9RdXhXESRJzgY_SwHB8T-cZxXljWhQvz&index=6) - [Leaguecraft 101 Episode 8 How To Carry](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQr0dgCYKhw&list=PL9RdXhXESRJzgY_SwHB8T-cZxXljWhQvz&index=8) - [Leaguecraft 101 Episode 18 Mid Game and Rotations](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Rbj_71s08&list=PL9RdXhXESRJzgY_SwHB8T-cZxXljWhQvz&index=18)
tbh none of that is news to me, but i appreciate the attempt
: Objectives>Kills, my friend. Going 10/0 wont guarantee you a win if you're not taking down structures. And if your teammates are struggling then you need to help them get ahead. It is hard, I know. But that is the only way to win. Also I would like to point out that you're playing rather.. difficult champions. Cass & Shaco & Kalista. It is better for you to stick onto easier champions like Renekton, Pantheon, Ahri, Blitz etc. You can trust me on this since I was B4 all the way to Plat 2 now.
man its a good thing the reason i won those games is because i used those insane kill leads to take objectives. Honestly dude, im sick of hearing this shit because you all assume i dont already do this simply because of my rank. There are more factors that go into deciding a players rank than just their macro and micro skill. take my last game, we lost because of me theres no doubt about that. But we lost because i took the game hostage and forced my team to lose because they were dicking around in jungle instead of pushing and i got fed up. So i gave them an ultimatum, "im running it down mid, ill kill anyone in my way and try to take that tower, its up to you to decide if we win the 5v5 and take the tower, or i die to the 1v5" Then off i went for the next 15 deaths. Bronzies take a little while to catch onto things because they didnt start helping till the 16th dead and by then teemo had already killed our nexus. Now why would i do such an irrational thing? Simple, im a raging tilter, hence my rank. The higher in elo i go the more insane my winrate gets at one point being as high as 90% with almost 100 games played. the only reason my winrate scales linearly with elo upwards is because the higher in elo i go the less stupid the players are, the less stupid everyone is the more effort i put in to winning and the less tilted i am.
Main Line (OCE)
: It's a very good suggestion, which happens in China and Korea. Funny how those regions are consistently the best at the game.
Well those regions are more about keeping outsiders from playing the game for publishing reasons. I wouldnt take it to that extreme im talking an opt in opt out queue that requires account verification, but your point is still valid.
: So your ability in league depend on how well you do at work? wtf... I think you need to have a self reflection and work out your issues.
No my ability to play league is dependant on which mood im in. If im tired and pissy ill play like utter trash. If im pumped and feeling good ill trash.
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